#huawei-g300 chanel log 2013-12-17

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I'm sorry for not actual logs - my FTP uploads are reduced a lot, i'm working on new solution..

Expected startup is about 10.2.2014

	Uživatel „lakyljuk“ opustil místnost (Quit: QIP Infium IRC protocol->http://forum.qip.ru).	00:09:19
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Kra1o5	Uživatel Kra1o5 [57da35eb@gateway/web/freenode/ip.87.218.53.235] vstoupil do místnosti.	00:17:04
Kra1o5	yo	00:17:05
fpb	Uživatel fpb [~fpb@148.35.166.178.rev.vodafone.pt] vstoupil do místnosti.	00:31:19
SilvesterBot	Starting build #417 for job android	01:00:57
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SilvesterBot	Project android build cm-11.0 - cm_u8815-userdebug: SUCCESS in 51 min: http://jenkins.thebronasium.com/job/android/417/	01:52:25
SilvesterBot	Starting build #418 for job android	01:52:32
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SilvesterBot	Project android build cm-11.0 - cm_u8833-userdebug: SUCCESS in 39 min: http://jenkins.thebronasium.com/job/android/418/	02:32:06
SilvesterBot	Starting build #419 for job android	02:32:11
SilvesterBot	Project android build cm-11.0 - cm_u8951-userdebug: SUCCESS in 39 min: http://jenkins.thebronasium.com/job/android/419/	03:11:46
	Téma konverzace „#huawei-g300“ je: #huawei-g300 | G300 & Y300 innovation station | home of the G300's *sigh*anogenMod® port and cancer | http://www.modaco.com/topic/364200-cyanogenmod-101-build-r19-161213/?p=2182340.	13:35:43
card.freenode.net	Uživatel „card.freenode.net“ nastavil režim kanálu na +cnt.	13:35:43
jordilopez94	Uživatel jordilopez94 [~jordilope@84.126.148.85.dyn.user.ono.com] vstoupil do místnosti.	13:36:34
	Uživatel „fpb“ opustil místnost (Quit: fpb).	13:51:34
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Alkalinorap	Uživatel Alkalinorap [~Alkalino@111.85.18.95.dynamic.jazztel.es] vstoupil do místnosti.	14:37:41
Dazzozo	http://www.incredibox.com/v2/#	14:38:04
Dazzozo	k thats enough of that	14:38:24
	Uživatel „Alkalinorap“ opustil místnost (Quit: Client Quit).	14:38:27
Alkalinorap	Uživatel Alkalinorap [~Alkalino@111.85.18.95.dynamic.jazztel.es] vstoupil do místnosti.	14:38:43
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Alkalinorap	Uživatel Alkalinorap [~Alkalino@111.85.18.95.dynamic.jazztel.es] vstoupil do místnosti.	14:42:30
	Uživatel „Alkalinorap“ opustil místnost (Quit: Client Quit).	14:45:51
Alkalinorap	Uživatel Alkalinorap [~Alkalino@111.85.18.95.dynamic.jazztel.es] vstoupil do místnosti.	14:47:33
Alkalinorap_	Uživatel Alkalinorap_ [~Alkalino@111.85.18.95.dynamic.jazztel.es] vstoupil do místnosti.	14:47:35
	Uživatel „Alkalinorap_“ opustil místnost (Quit: Client Quit).	14:47:35
	Uživatel „Alkalinorap“ opustil místnost (Quit: Client Quit).	14:47:53
Alkalinorap	Uživatel Alkalinorap [~Alkalino@111.85.18.95.dynamic.jazztel.es] vstoupil do místnosti.	14:52:20
tilal6991|away	Uživatel „tilal6991|away“ je nyní znám jako tilal6991.	15:03:34
joandrade	Uživatel joandrade [~j@bl22-247-25.dsl.telepac.pt] vstoupil do místnosti.	15:04:32
tilal6991	Uživatel „tilal6991“ je nyní znám jako tilal6991|away.	15:05:12
tilal6991|away	Uživatel „tilal6991|away“ je nyní znám jako tilal6991.	15:08:57
Dazzozo	HI tilal6991	15:13:18
tilal6991	hi	15:13:21
Alkalinorap_	Uživatel Alkalinorap_ [~Alkalino@111.85.18.95.dynamic.jazztel.es] vstoupil do místnosti.	15:16:51
	Uživatel „Alkalinorap“ opustil místnost (Quit: Ping timeout: 240 seconds).	15:20:13
EloYGomeZ	Uživatel EloYGomeZ [~EloYGomeZ@17.Red-83-50-249.dynamicIP.rima-tde.net] vstoupil do místnosti.	15:29:02
tilal6991	Uživatel „tilal6991“ je nyní znám jako tilal6991|away.	15:29:59
cybojenix-away	Uživatel „cybojenix-away“ je nyní znám jako cybojenix.	15:32:56
fpb	Uživatel fpb [~fpb@di17.di.fct.unl.pt] vstoupil do místnosti.	15:34:18
droidd	Uživatel droidd [40e578fd@gateway/web/freenode/ip.64.229.120.253] vstoupil do místnosti.	15:36:21
droidd	allo all	15:36:52
droidd	ah the man himself	15:38:32
droidd	ty Dazzozo for all your work, ignore the forum trolls	15:38:50
Dazzozo	lol np	15:39:26
droidd	its a wonder that kitkat runs on these phones at all imo	15:40:49
droidd	if it wasnt for you, id be running stock on my y300	15:41:08
droidd	and that was pretty bad	15:41:12
Dazzozo	i think what people dont realise is this stuff goes far back before the Y300 even released	15:42:37
Dazzozo	and without the work I did on the G300, the Y300 wouldn't have had cm10/cm10.1 as early as it did	15:42:55
Dazzozo	even if they were broken as hell	15:43:06
modacouserr	Uživatel modacouserr [02518e0c@gateway/web/freenode/ip.2.81.142.12] vstoupil do místnosti.	15:43:55
droidd	are the g300 and y300 close enough in spec?	15:44:26
Dazzozo	yeah	15:44:53
Dazzozo	and they share an awful lot in common	15:44:57
droidd	hmm ic	15:46:54
droidd	well i suspect a growing number of Canadians will be using your work in the future	15:47:09
Dazzozo	wat	15:47:28
droidd	the y300 is on sale for some $50 CDN these days	15:47:49
droidd	thats 35 euros or so	15:47:53
droidd	there really isnt any other phone to buy in that price range	15:48:03
Dazzozo	ooh	15:48:20
droidd	its a suspiciously good phone for the price	15:49:07
droidd	i dont find im missing much from my htc evo 4g	15:49:18
droidd	may it rest in peace	15:49:22
droidd	what does the y300 sell for in your parts?	15:50:02
Dazzozo	mine cost ~£70	15:50:54
Dazzozo	though i didnt pay for it	15:51:20
Dazzozo	lol	15:51:21
droidd	right lol	15:51:31
droidd	its worth that imo	15:51:40
droidd	most other phones are single core, 3.5 inch screen etc for the price	15:51:55
Dazzozo	well, there's the moto g now	15:52:05
Dazzozo	and I personally have a Nexus 5 so	15:52:12
droidd	ahh	15:52:26
droidd	i wish the moto g had come out sooner lol	15:52:51
droidd	i also slap myself for missing the nexus4 blowout they had some months ago	15:53:17
droidd	i guess the y300 is your toy then?	15:54:32
Dazzozo	and the g300	15:54:37
Dazzozo	yeah	15:54:40
Dazzozo	i kinda prefer the g300 tbh	15:54:44
droidd	hmm?	15:54:55
Dazzozo	the y300 has served its purpose	15:54:59
Dazzozo	i only need one of these devices to maintain both now	15:55:11
Dazzozo	y300 just feels cheap	15:55:24
Dazzozo	so much cheap	15:55:27
Dazzozo	screen feels cheap, plastic plastic plastic	15:55:36
droidd	oh it sure is lol	15:55:39
Dazzozo	g300 felt better made	15:55:41
Dazzozo	and it had a vibration motor that didnt feel like being electrocuted	15:55:54
droidd	oh ive found a workaround for the terrible vibration motor lol	15:56:18
Dazzozo	reduce the voltage	15:56:28
droidd	anykeyboard has a softer setting	15:56:47
jordilopez94	Uživatel jordilopez94 [547b383c@gateway/web/freenode/ip.84.123.56.60] vstoupil do místnosti.	15:56:51
Dazzozo	ah	15:56:52
droidd	ah or that ^ lol	15:56:56
	Uživatel „rhen“ opustil místnost (Quit: Leaving).	15:57:18
droidd	so youll sell the y300 then?	15:57:43
Dazzozo	probably not	15:57:48
Dazzozo	i rarely sell phones	15:58:04
Dazzozo	I sold my N4 because it actually had some significant value	15:58:14
Dazzozo	to get the n5	15:58:19
joandrade	when are you starting the sfa streams though	15:58:19
Dazzozo	joandrade: when i get the gear!	15:58:26
joandrade		15:58:31
Dazzozo	i got the cables today	15:58:36
joandrade	nice nice	15:58:39
Dazzozo	i sent the capture card guy an angry email	15:58:41
Dazzozo	he said next day postage	15:58:45
Dazzozo	and its 2 days later now	15:58:48
Dazzozo	still not dispatched	15:58:52
joandrade	yeah it should have been sent yesterday	15:58:57
Dazzozo	splitters probably tomorrow because they were dispatched yesterday	15:59:04
Dazzozo	then i just need the capture card	15:59:09
joandrade	cool cool	15:59:13
Dazzozo	i spent some time fixing up my stream today because hurr durr twitch	15:59:23
Alkalinorap_	jijisjidfijsadijfwjidsafijsaijdfjisajif23	15:59:28
Dazzozo	so should be ready	15:59:28
joandrade	nice, the hardware is the only thing left	15:59:42
joandrade	have you tried procaster?	15:59:52
joandrade	it's similar to twitch, I use it a lot for game and radio streams	16:00:07
Dazzozo	I used it years ago when livestream.com was the shit	16:00:12
Dazzozo	i might stream to hitbox.tv	16:00:19
Dazzozo	that site is awesome	16:00:22
joandrade	ok	16:00:22
droidd	Alkalinorap_: yufsguyfgsufvufkuysdvfs43	16:00:31
Dazzozo	twitch is quite likely, but its being a real piece of shit in the last year	16:00:33
Dazzozo	so i might try out hitbox	16:00:37
Dazzozo	used OBS since i started streaming, might try xsplit	16:00:52
joandrade	cool	16:01:37
Dazzozo	hitbox is awesome though	16:01:49
Dazzozo	great staff	16:01:50
Dazzozo	it NEVER lags	16:01:52
Dazzozo	site is really nice	16:02:00
Dazzozo	sucks that twitch kinda has the monopoly	16:02:22
Alkalinorap_	droidd, slkadfjsalkdfjlkas32322332mcmm,,,e4ii9039354545{[]ñ{-{-{	16:02:26
Dazzozo	because they dont really improve	16:02:28
joandrade	twitch has been really flaky this last few months	16:02:31
Dazzozo	yeah	16:02:36
Dazzozo	when you can proxy your traffic to their US servers and it works BETTER than the EU ones	16:02:45
joandrade	I guess everyone started streaming LoL omg	16:02:45
Dazzozo	something's wrong	16:02:47
Dazzozo	i think its the PS4 integration etc	16:02:53
joandrade	yeah that too	16:02:57
Dazzozo	but they knew it was coming	16:03:07
joandrade	shoulda been ready	16:04:16
Dazzozo	like, the service couldnt cope in europe BEFORE that shit	16:04:36
joandrade	fucking c++ sockets	16:07:09
joandrade	two weeks trying to get this to work	16:07:19
Dazzozo	LOL	16:07:44
joandrade	this makes me desperate	16:07:55
joandrade	have you ever used the boost library?	16:08:00
Dazzozo	nope	16:08:22
joandrade	run away from that	16:08:25
Dazzozo	i've tried as hard to avoid it	16:08:29
Dazzozo	and managed	16:08:34
Dazzozo	so far	16:08:35
joandrade	we're forced to use it in this course	16:08:39
Dazzozo	i generally don't like using C++ libraries if i can get away with it	16:08:55
joandrade	with good reason	16:09:06
joandrade	the only way I found out where the error was was by using two computers	16:10:16
joandrade	daz art don't work	16:10:41
droidd	Alkalinorap_: thank you for Essential ROM B199 v2, i will test soon	16:10:53
Alkalinorap_	there it in modaco?	16:11:24
Dazzozo	joandrade: hue	16:11:45
Alkalinorap_	is a simply stock based without major changes that may affect the system	16:12:18
droidd	yes, there is a new topic in modaco	16:12:22
Alkalinorap_	only neccessary	16:12:31
Alkalinorap_		16:12:33
droidd	and no emotionui	16:12:47
Alkalinorap_	some apps have emotionui	16:14:06
Alkalinorap_	for example settings, phone and messaging	16:14:16
Alkalinorap_	and clock	16:14:54
Alkalinorap_	I think no more	16:14:56
droidd	ah ok	16:15:25
droidd	does ceastel visit here?	16:15:35
Dazzozo	whos ceastel o_o	16:16:25
Alkalinorap_	wat	16:16:29
droidd	or sorry lol	16:18:42
	Uživatel „joandrade“ opustil místnost (Quit: Ping timeout: 252 seconds).	16:18:45
droidd	he is doing the cexstel kernel on modaco	16:18:57
droidd	i wanted to ask about OC on y300	16:19:05
Dazzozo	o	16:19:12
Dazzozo	yeah i dont check the forum often	16:19:19
Dazzozo	i just check my own threads	16:19:26
joandrade	Uživatel joandrade [~j@bl22-247-25.dsl.telepac.pt] vstoupil do místnosti.	16:19:33
Dazzozo	soooo i probably dont know a bunch of people	16:19:34
joandrade	just guess what happened	16:19:45
Dazzozo	wat	16:19:54
Alkalinorap_	one thing that i dont know is how tillaz put full hwa in fusionX	16:19:57
droidd	lol fair enough	16:19:58
joandrade	my router cut me off because I was flooding the network	16:20:01
droidd	Alkalinorap_: why is that?	16:20:22
Dazzozo	Alkalinorap_: i love how people think its exclusive to fusionX	16:20:45
Dazzozo	and that I should add it to CM	16:20:49
Alkalinorap_	wtf	16:21:10
droidd	there are no drivers beyond 4.1 iirc	16:21:44
droidd	for adreno	16:21:54
Alkalinorap_	cm have its own system and features	16:22:03
Dazzozo	droidd: thats a different issue	16:22:14
Alkalinorap_	who want to add it to cm	16:22:14
Alkalinorap_	lol	16:22:15
Dazzozo	CM hardware accelerates the UI of apps that don't opt out	16:22:39
Alkalinorap_	^	16:22:54
Dazzozo	Stock accelerated certain apps	16:22:58
rymate1234	full hwa accelerates everything?	16:23:11
Dazzozo	rymate1234: no	16:23:15
Dazzozo	full HWA is a term he used	16:23:22
Dazzozo	honestly i think its bad terminology	16:23:27
rymate1234	is it utter bullshit?	16:23:33
Dazzozo	especially in the title	16:23:35
Dazzozo	no	16:23:36
Dazzozo	he basically disabled huawei's code that selectively enables hw accel	16:23:50
Dazzozo	so it behaves as android should	16:23:55
Dazzozo	but... CM already behaves as android should	16:24:00
droidd	this is very interesting	16:24:39
Dazzozo	the "force 2D accel" developer option just enables hw accel even for the apps that opt out in the manifest	16:24:40
Alkalinorap_	exactly	16:24:41
Dazzozo	and that's not many apps	16:24:49
Dazzozo	but for the apps that DO opt out, there's probably a reason	16:24:56
Dazzozo	aka: hw accel breaks them	16:25:01
droidd	ic	16:25:50
	Uživatel „EloYGomeZ“ opustil místnost (Quit: Saliendo).	16:26:08
droidd	what effect does the lack of drivers have on CM 10.1+	16:26:22
rymate1234	well play music breaks in a hilarious way	16:26:37
Dazzozo	missing OpenGL extensions	16:27:02
rymate1234	pssst Dazzozo	16:27:13
rymate1234	play music works fine on cm10.1+ on crescent	16:27:23
rymate1234		16:27:25
Dazzozo	rymate1234: worked fine on 10.1+ on g300 before too	16:27:34
droidd	oh very nice	16:27:35
Dazzozo	its the newer blobs	16:27:41
rymate1234	use older blobs?	16:27:55
Dazzozo	then camera breaks	16:27:58
Dazzozo	omx breaks	16:27:59
Dazzozo	gj rymate1234 you just broke everything	16:28:05
rymate1234	use a combination of newer and older blobs?	16:28:17
Dazzozo	doesnt work	16:28:23
EloYGomeZ	Uživatel EloYGomeZ [~EloYGomeZ@17.Red-83-50-249.dynamicIP.rima-tde.net] vstoupil do místnosti.	16:28:29
rymate1234	make your own camera hal	16:28:31
rymate1234	and omx hacks	16:28:34
Dazzozo	fuck off	16:28:41
joandrade	gcc camera.h	16:28:42
Dazzozo	yea, camera.h lets us build camera.msm7x27a.so	16:29:00
Dazzozo	nothing else	16:29:01
Dazzozo	the rest is still proprietary	16:29:06
joandrade	rob huawei hq	16:29:18
Dazzozo	ok	16:29:27
Dazzozo	i could build the camera hal	16:29:49
Dazzozo	but: i dont care	16:29:51
Dazzozo	its not going to solve any problems, our camera is flawless atm	16:30:12
joandrade	oh about the camera	16:30:27
Dazzozo	yea?	16:30:36
joandrade	now that we're using the 4.1 blobs and it's not painfully slow	16:30:41
Dazzozo	ye	16:30:47
joandrade	have you tried enabling hdr? or is that still really hard to do?	16:30:52
joandrade	or did they remove it	16:31:02
Dazzozo	I don't know what happened to the software HDR	16:31:07
Dazzozo	I'll check up on it	16:31:16
joandrade	okay	16:31:33
rymate1234	dazzozo pls enable hdr on crescent	16:31:34
rymate1234	it'll only take 10 seconds for one photo	16:31:58
Dazzozo	no	16:32:11
joandrade	it would take more than 15 on the g300	16:32:15
Dazzozo	do it yourself	16:32:15
Dazzozo	yeah	16:32:20
joandrade	at least 5 seconds for each photo	16:32:21
Dazzozo	on the 4.0 blobs it would take 15 sec	16:32:24
joandrade	plus processing	16:32:25
Dazzozo	lol	16:32:25
Dazzozo	because there was something causing a timeout in oemcamera	16:32:41
Dazzozo	so it would wait 5 seconds for this arbitrary timeout	16:32:51
droidd	are the experimental 4.2 drivers any good? or am i not reading correctly? lol	16:32:52
Dazzozo	for each photo	16:32:58
Dazzozo	droidd: what experimental 4.2 drivers	16:33:13
droidd	one sec!	16:33:25
Dazzozo	if you mean adreno, yeah, they work, its useless though	16:33:34
Dazzozo	because it breaks everything else	16:33:38
Dazzozo	and theres no actual way of fixing it	16:33:48
droidd	oh	16:33:52
droidd		16:34:14
rymate1234	well	16:34:34
Dazzozo	we need new omx	16:34:37
rymate1234	they _are_ experimental	16:34:40
Dazzozo	and thats mm-video and mm-still	16:34:41
Dazzozo	the display works fine though!	16:34:50
Dazzozo	so i guess you could say they work fine	16:34:56
droidd	ic	16:35:06
droidd	i recall reading about some open source drivers	16:35:30
droidd	how are they?	16:35:32
Dazzozo	freedreno	16:35:35
Dazzozo	thats gonna be an interesting one	16:35:48
Dazzozo	i dont know how its going to work with the blobs	16:35:56
Dazzozo	i dunno if anyone has freedreno working in CM	16:36:49
rymate1234	port replicant with freedreno	16:37:36
rymate1234	)))	16:37:38
Dazzozo	you could probably get everything to be satisfied? idk though	16:38:05
Dazzozo	all i've really seen of freedreno is funky 3d object demos	16:38:53
droidd	oh this replicant is interesting ^	16:39:39
Dazzozo	yeah, you're pretty much never going to see it for a qualcomm device tho	16:39:59
Dazzozo	blob city	16:40:04
droidd	oh	16:40:21
droidd	youre breaking my heart here lol	16:40:27
Dazzozo	and sadly theyre getting kind of a monopoly	16:40:30
Dazzozo	mostly because no one can fucking compete	16:40:45
rymate1234	no worse than intel	16:40:47
rymate1234	or amd	16:40:50
droidd	there are some chinese companies competing	16:41:14
droidd	rockchip etc	16:41:18
Dazzozo	hardly	16:41:19
droidd	but im not sure if they are any good	16:41:24
Dazzozo	wheres the market share? wheres the flagship devices carrying rockchip	16:41:35
droidd	i think huawei is doing hardware now?	16:41:42
Dazzozo	hah	16:41:46
droidd	in the ascend mate	16:41:46
Dazzozo	yea	16:42:20
Dazzozo	i think its called HiSilicon	16:42:29
rymate1234	this fucking tablet http://www.bbc.co.uk/news/technology-25402621	16:42:35
rymate1234	that's the one I brought my mum	16:42:44
rymate1234	o.o	16:42:48
droidd	i have that exact tablet	16:43:08
Dazzozo	fuuuuuckin hell	16:43:16
Dazzozo	what a piece of shit	16:43:23
droidd	this ^	16:43:32
droidd	i use it as an ereader because everything else crashes lol	16:43:54
rymate1234	Dazzozo: it's godd enough for my mum	16:44:11
rymate1234	*good	16:44:15
Dazzozo	all i can say is	16:44:22
Dazzozo	you get what you pay for	16:44:25
rymate1234	runs puzzle games well	16:44:29
Dazzozo	my fucking capture card cost more	16:44:31
rymate1234	can browse internet	16:44:33
Dazzozo	MY FUCKING CAPTURE CARD	16:44:35
Dazzozo	COST	16:44:36
Dazzozo	MORE	16:44:38
droidd		16:44:41
Dazzozo	wtf.	16:44:47
Dazzozo	not much more, but still	16:45:02
rymate1234	welcome to the world of cheap chinese tablets	16:45:13
joandrade	indian actually	16:45:22
droidd	the paint is so thin	16:45:36
rymate1234	the one i ordered is exactly the same as the one in the article	16:45:51
rymate1234	except with 8GB storage	16:45:55
droidd	you can see the backlights from the back of the tablet lol	16:45:55
rymate1234	and mine came from somewhere in china	16:46:10
rymate1234	droidd: the screen is shit in portrait	16:47:02
droidd	yes lol	16:47:21
droidd	words are cut off	16:47:25
rymate1234	?	16:47:30
droidd	like the screen is recessed into the plastic border	16:47:34
rymate1234	i didnt have that issue	16:47:51
rymate1234	_quality control_	16:47:55
droidd	lol	16:48:01
droidd	its a fine tablet	16:48:08
droidd	i just wish it were slightly less junk	16:48:16
rymate1234	fine for my mum	16:48:40
droidd	yep	16:48:51
droidd	well its time to flash a new rom	16:49:22
droidd	any suggestions?	16:49:27
rymate1234	cm11	16:49:33
droidd	does the latest twrp work on cm11 yet?	16:50:27
droidd	im scared to switch to cwm now :S	16:50:39
droidd	eh nevermind	16:50:58
droidd	if it bricks it bricks	16:51:07
droidd	hmm maybe ill try cm10? in theory it should have working hwa?	16:58:36
Dazzozo	everything has working hwa	16:59:35
droidd	right, i mean it will have the adreno 4.1 drivers?	17:00:24
Dazzozo	everything has the adreno 4.1 drivers	17:00:58
Dazzozo	there are no other drivers	17:01:05
Dazzozo	that we can realistically use	17:01:11
Dazzozo	there's a bunch of issues with that, but less than we'd have with 4.2 drivers	17:01:54
droidd	ah ok	17:02:06
Dazzozo	opengl extensions, genlock dependency etc	17:02:13
Alkalinorap_	Dazzozo, do you think where he disabled code was in the framework?	17:02:45
droidd	so cm10 would have the most reliable implementation of the adreno drivers?	17:02:59
Dazzozo	Alkalinorap_: 99% sure	17:03:04
droidd	sorry im not exactly a dev	17:03:05
Dazzozo	droidd: they all have the same implementation	17:03:13
Alkalinorap_	ok thanks	17:03:13
Alkalinorap_	apparently all files weigh exactly the same as a normal stock	17:03:38
Dazzozo	"weigh"	17:03:54
Dazzozo	file size is a bad thing to measure	17:04:14
Alkalinorap_	although if he only changed one line sizes the same	17:04:15
Dazzozo	nope	17:04:30
Dazzozo	doesnt work like that	17:04:33
Dazzozo	you can change whole chunks of code and the file size can stay the same	17:04:45
Alkalinorap_	lol true	17:04:59
droidd	im confused now	17:05:31
droidd	adreno 4.1 drivers work on 4.2, 4.3, 4.4	17:05:54
Dazzozo	"work"	17:06:00
droidd	but they work best on 4.1?	17:06:01
droidd	is that fair? lol	17:06:05
Dazzozo	i dont understand what you're really getting at?	17:06:23
droidd	ah	17:06:39
Dazzozo	what problem are you trying to describe with 4.2+?	17:06:44
droidd	i havent tried a CM yet	17:07:01
Dazzozo	oh	17:07:05
droidd	in my mind, 4.1 drivers are for 4.1	17:07:20
droidd	what wizardry allows them to work on 4.2+	17:07:33
joandrade	lots of hole plugging	17:08:09
Dazzozo	^	17:08:13
Dazzozo	essentially	17:08:15
Dazzozo	"this isn't implemented -> oh well"	17:08:27
droidd	ah ok, i see now	17:08:49
Dazzozo	thankfully, we're not looking at radical changes	17:08:58
droidd	that must be a real challenge for you	17:09:17
droidd	is there any chance we get 4.4 drivers?	17:09:41
Dazzozo	zero	17:09:53
droidd	i doubt it myself	17:09:55
droidd	ah	17:09:57
droidd	lol	17:10:00
Dazzozo	qualcomm dropped support for the hardware	17:10:10
Dazzozo	we need miracles to get blobs	17:10:20
Dazzozo	we need leaks	17:10:21
Dazzozo	we need oopsies	17:10:26
droidd	i suppose we cant blame them	17:10:30
droidd	its old hardware	17:10:33
Dazzozo	well, truthfully the hardware doesn't support a couple of things	17:10:59
Dazzozo	its not the end of the world, but from the POV of qcom	17:11:07
Dazzozo	"its time to retire this now"	17:11:10
eloimuns	Uživatel eloimuns [~eloimuns@209.pool85-55-229.dynamic.orange.es] vstoupil do místnosti.	17:11:18
fpb	most of the time it all resumes to $$$	17:11:22
Dazzozo	to be honest	17:11:29
Dazzozo	the experience isnt great	17:11:31
Dazzozo	really	17:11:34
Dazzozo	so im not surprised	17:11:39
Dazzozo	you can involve money if you want	17:11:46
rymate1234	i wonder how long it'll be until my moto is EOLd	17:11:57
Dazzozo	but these chips are pretty bad	17:12:00
droidd	is there a big difference in game performance from stock based to cm?	17:12:18
Dazzozo	probably	17:12:29
droidd	hmm	17:13:24
Dazzozo	but we're kinda entering stuff that there is just no solution for now	17:13:54
droidd	one way to find out i suppose	17:13:54
fpb	Dazzozo: any plans for NFC? I know it is hard without the hardware...	17:14:03
rymate1234	doesnt nfc	17:14:12
droidd	Dazzozo: what kind of stuff?	17:14:14
rymate1234	kinda need the hardware	17:14:16
Dazzozo	droidd: e.g: there's a bug since the youtube redesign	17:14:32
Dazzozo	v5.0	17:14:33
Dazzozo	where videos look slightly pixelated	17:14:40
Dazzozo	and HQ doesn't look much different to LQ	17:14:47
Dazzozo	works fine on 4.1, 4.2+....	17:14:53
Dazzozo	problems happen	17:14:56
Dazzozo	same app	17:15:01
Dazzozo	and if you use the last version prior to 5.x	17:15:07
Dazzozo	v4.7 something	17:15:11
Dazzozo	everything works on 4.2+	17:15:16
droidd	problem solved then! lol	17:15:30
rymate1234	>not using armv6 EOL hardware	17:15:31
Dazzozo	like, that's just youtube working how youtube should, and the framework working how the framework should	17:15:36
rymate1234	>2013	17:15:36
Dazzozo	i dont think anyone cares enough to hack this shit	17:15:44
Dazzozo	we just have old blobs	17:15:53
Dazzozo	fpb: its ridiculously hard without the hardware	17:17:06
Dazzozo	and i really dont have the patience for it	17:17:15
Dazzozo	im getting kinda tired of android stuff	17:17:29
fpb	I know	17:17:30
droidd	hmm i had a quick look at qcoms website http://www.qualcomm.com/snapdragon/processors/s4/specs	17:17:37
Dazzozo	im picking my battles atm because i really dont care for some of these "impossible" issues	17:17:47
droidd	it looks like they are still marketing out msm8225	17:17:50
droidd	maybe there is hope for new drivers	17:18:05
Dazzozo	no	17:18:08
Dazzozo	theyre marketing it for 4.1	17:18:11
Dazzozo	its not supported.	17:18:19
Dazzozo	there is no hope.	17:18:21
fpb	I once remotely debugged a modified rockbox firmware running on a BMW with navigation screen	17:18:21
Dazzozo	stop	17:18:22
Dazzozo	stahp	17:18:23
Dazzozo	listen to meeeeee	17:18:28
Dazzozo	there is noooo hopeeeee	17:18:32
Dazzozo	unless leaks	17:18:36
droidd	i need this! dont take this away from me!	17:18:41
fpb	I finally managed to have the MP3 player display ID3 tags on the nav screen	17:18:42
droidd	lol	17:18:44
fpb	but it was a pain in the ass	17:18:48
droidd	so you think they have new drivers developed internally?	17:19:03
droidd	but theyre not sharing?	17:19:10
rymate1234	y'all need hope	17:19:30
Dazzozo	idk, is there any device shipping 4.2+ with qdsp5?	17:19:31
Dazzozo	ehhh	17:20:10
Dazzozo	is there something 7x30 based?	17:20:17
Dazzozo	8x55?	17:20:31
Dazzozo	snapdragon 200?	17:20:44
Dazzozo	any of those 3 really	17:20:49
droidd	i dont know where to start searching lol	17:22:00
Dazzozo	nah doesnt look like it	17:22:37
Dazzozo	i dont think there's anything with qdsp5 on 4.2	17:22:57
Dazzozo	they probably maintain the code for dropped stuff, idk really	17:23:43
adfad666	the shit's gonna hit the fan when qcom finally switch to the 3.10 kernel	17:24:08
Dazzozo	you think?	17:24:21
adfad666	everything is getting dropped	17:24:27
Dazzozo	lol	17:24:31
Dazzozo	rly?	17:24:38
rymate1234	rip everything	17:24:51
rymate1234	rip moto g	17:24:53
adfad666	no 2xx code	17:24:56
adfad666	it's just gone	17:25:04
adfad666	MIA	17:25:07
rymate1234	o moto g has adreno 305	17:25:41
Dazzozo	there's hope for the nexus 5 yet!	17:25:42
rymate1234	k	17:25:42
droidd	mediatek! thats another big chipmaker	17:25:45
Dazzozo	"big"	17:25:51
rymate1234	who?	17:25:55
Dazzozo	in cheap tablets with no market share	17:25:59
droidd	biggish	17:26:00
Dazzozo	yea	17:26:01
droidd	eh this says snapdragon 200 can do 1.4ghz per core?	17:27:05
droidd	why is our y300 clocked at an even 1.0?	17:27:13
Dazzozo	huh	17:27:22
droidd	oh, 1.2	17:27:40
droidd		17:27:45
Dazzozo	err ok	17:28:00
Dazzozo	no idea what you're on about	17:28:06
rymate1234	dat extra 0.2 GHz	17:28:46
droidd	im not too sure myself lol	17:30:52
adfad666	don't read snapdragon200	17:31:06
droidd	i guess 0.2ghz isnt noticeable anyways	17:31:09
adfad666	read actual part name	17:31:14
Dazzozo	yeah	17:31:21
adfad666	lots of things can be snapdragon 200	17:31:25
Dazzozo	snapdragon xxx describes a ton of devices	17:31:29
joandrade	Dazzozo I'm getting so many RCA cables and capture cards ads on facebook	17:31:30
Dazzozo	as does snapdragon Sx	17:31:34
Dazzozo	and chips	17:31:59
adfad666	i think qcom have a hat with marketing names	17:32:05
Dazzozo	they used to make sense	17:32:12
adfad666	when they make a chip they go to the hat	17:32:13
Dazzozo	i think the only thing you can really learn from the actual model number is	17:32:52
Dazzozo	msm7k = shit	17:32:55
Dazzozo	msm8k = maybe not shit	17:32:59
droidd	what does msm8225 say lol	17:33:22
Dazzozo	its a dual core msm7x27a	17:33:31
Dazzozo	i dont think people really realise that much	17:33:37
Dazzozo	it is literally a dual core msm7x27a	17:33:41
rymate1234	so it's 2 cores of shit	17:33:47
Dazzozo	yes	17:33:52
adfad666	the one thing consistent is the higher the last two didgits the better it is	17:34:07
adfad666	the rest is random	17:34:16
droidd	this poor phone has no self esteem left lol	17:34:41
adfad666	do they do anything lower than xx25?	17:34:57
Dazzozo	no	17:35:08
rymate1234	droidd: could be worse	17:35:21
Dazzozo	oh	17:35:23
Dazzozo	they used to	17:35:24
rymate1234	it's not a single core of shit	17:35:32
droidd	thats the spirit	17:35:44
droidd	lol	17:35:45
adfad666	I think msm8xxx at least guarantees multicore	17:36:06
Dazzozo	mmm yea	17:36:27
droidd	at least we have a nice big battery	17:37:12
Dazzozo	i kinda wish qcom didnt call it an S4	17:37:24
rymate1234	~for a budget phone~	17:37:29
droidd	S4 reminds me of samsung :S	17:38:24
adfad666	how does it compare to the original S4?	17:38:41
Dazzozo	adfad666: original S4?	17:39:06
adfad666	the first batch of msm8960	17:39:44
Dazzozo	its awful	17:39:52
Dazzozo	personally i would've grouped it with the S2s	17:40:06
Dazzozo	that extra core is really not worth the power, honestly	17:40:43
Dazzozo	maybe its just mpdecision being bad, who knows	17:41:00
Dazzozo	but right now, not lovin' the core	17:41:06
Dazzozo	im gonna stop mpdecision and see what its like on cm11	17:41:19
rymate1234	better or worse than crescent http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/File:Qualcomm_QCP-2700_phone.png	17:42:11
Dazzozo	better	17:42:21
Dazzozo	it actually works	17:42:23
rymate1234	lol	17:42:42
droidd	oh thats a nice phone	17:42:50
droidd	roughly as thick as our y300	17:42:57
Dazzozo	yeah the y300 is pretty nice without mpdecision	17:43:23
adfad666	it's as thick as my phone is wide	17:43:25
droidd	port 4.4 to that thing lol	17:43:39
joandrade	Dazzozo's going to port 4.0 to the nexus 5 first	17:44:02
Dazzozo	doesnt have a gpu	17:44:05
Dazzozo	oh man	17:44:10
Dazzozo	every time i think about doing that	17:44:14
Dazzozo	i get excited like a little kid	17:44:17
Dazzozo	idk why	17:44:19
joandrade	haha	17:44:44
droidd	4.0? as in ics?	17:44:49
droidd	go for it!	17:44:50
Dazzozo	wouldnt be possible	17:45:10
Dazzozo	camera etc	17:45:12
adfad666	more like Android etc	17:45:42
tilal6991|away	Uživatel „tilal6991|away“ je nyní znám jako tilal6991.	17:45:51
Dazzozo	^	17:45:52
droidd	why 4.0?	17:45:57
Dazzozo	because imo 4.0 was android at its best	17:46:07
droidd	my last phone ran it and i had no complaints	17:46:10
adfad666	ics works on even the shit devices	17:46:26
joandrade	plus the cm9 boot animation > all the boot animations	17:46:31
rymate1234	"All Qualcomm based phones have Qualcomm prorprietary userspace binary called "mpdecision" aka m(ake)p(oor)decision."	17:46:33
rymate1234	10/10	17:46:34
Dazzozo	yea	17:46:42
Dazzozo	mpdecision got leaked lel	17:46:48
rymate1234	how shit is it	17:46:55
droidd	someone is porting ics to the y300, maybe you can work on that if youd like	17:47:25
Dazzozo	* D E C I S I O N . C	17:47:34
Dazzozo	*	17:47:34
Dazzozo	* GENERAL DESCRIPTION	17:47:34
Dazzozo	* Multicore Decision Engine	17:47:34
Dazzozo	Copyright (c) 2010-2013 Qualcomm Technologies, Inc. All Rights Reserved.	17:47:35
Dazzozo	Qualcomm Technologies Proprietary and Confidential.	17:47:36
Dazzozo	v0v	17:47:38
adfad666	where	17:47:56
Dazzozo	shhh	17:48:01
joandrade	http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=NFQCYpIHLNQ	17:48:28
Dazzozo	having is one thing	17:48:32
Dazzozo	sharing is another	17:48:34
adfad666	;_;	17:48:41
rymate1234	layer_detailpage&v-wzY4v1a0c#t=195">http://www.youtube.com/watch?featurelayer_detailpage&v-wzY4v1a0c#t=195	17:51:50
Dazzozo	k i shared it dw guyd	17:52:07
Dazzozo	s	17:52:08
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rhen	Uživatel rhen [5985561a@gateway/web/cgi-irc/kiwiirc.com/ip.89.133.86.26] vstoupil do místnosti.	18:01:07
rhen	Hi	18:01:13
Dazzozo	yo	18:01:32
rhen	how was the driving?	18:02:23
Dazzozo	p good	18:02:50
Dazzozo	im "managed with little help" now	18:02:55
joandrade	where'd you go?	18:02:59
joandrade	oh driving lessons?	18:03:14
Dazzozo	yea	18:03:24
joandrade	cool	18:03:28
joandrade	how many have you had?	18:05:04
Dazzozo	like 7?	18:05:12
Dazzozo	icr	18:05:12
joandrade	nice	18:05:41
tilal6991	Uživatel „tilal6991“ je nyní znám jako tilal6991|away.	18:06:43
adfad666	learn to drive in Czech, much easier	18:08:43
EloYGomeZ	Uživatel „EloYGomeZ“ je nyní znám jako EloYGomeZ|||away.	18:09:27
joandrade	driving is not really hard	18:10:36
Dazzozo	mhm	18:11:23
dr_avila	Uživatel dr_avila [~dr_avila@181-160-193-61.baf.movistar.cl] vstoupil do místnosti.	18:12:09
rhen	what car do you drive?	18:12:19
Dazzozo	some skoda	18:12:51
	Uživatel „EloYGomeZ|||away“ opustil místnost (Quit: Saliendo).	18:13:34
adfad666	made in Cz	18:15:32
Dazzozo	lol	18:16:41
adfad666	skoda actually means 'pity' or 'damage' in Czech	18:17:55
Dazzozo	encouraging	18:18:26
Dazzozo	i gotta say i dont really like the feeling of knowing im steering a weapon	18:18:42
rhen	weapon	18:19:33
joandrade	evil geniuses have been born from less than that	18:19:41
joandrade	oh	18:19:55
joandrade	you said you didn't really like	18:20:00
Dazzozo	yea	18:20:05
Dazzozo	also btw i have adreno blobs with symbols	18:20:14
Dazzozo	and adreno headers	18:20:18
Dazzozo	and the names of all the adreno source files	18:20:26
joandrade	that's not really useful, is it?	18:20:52
rhen	we can search for the files on the dark web	18:21:08
Dazzozo	interesting to stare at	18:21:09
Dazzozo	maybe more interesting if you're the freedreno developer	18:21:17
Dazzozo	i just found this shit	18:21:26
Dazzozo	dont ask	18:21:35
Dazzozo	but hey, need dat proof rite	18:24:04
Dazzozo	http://i.thebronasium.com/yuki/20131217-182346.png	18:24:06
Pad^	http://www.operasoftware.com/press/theprmachine	18:25:27
Pad^	Hahaha	18:25:28
Pad^	Best press release ever	18:25:33
rhen	nice one	18:26:55
rhen	Dazzozo: A:? they still use floppy disk?	18:27:30
Dazzozo	no	18:27:37
Dazzozo	this is my pc	18:27:43
Dazzozo	lol	18:27:44
rhen		18:27:47
Dazzozo	its not a floppy	18:27:53
Dazzozo	i just allocate drive letters the way i want	18:28:04
rhen	i'm just kidding	18:28:10
Dazzozo	i dont see a reason to avoid A: and B: for the rest of time	18:28:13
Dazzozo	i know lol	18:28:16
lakyljuk	Uživatel lakyljuk [~spravce@188.175.39.196] vstoupil do místnosti.	18:32:45
rhen	you get this list with reverse engineering?	18:35:16
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rymate1234	Pad^: wow	18:45:16
rymate1234	such advertising	18:45:20
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Dazzozo	erh	18:52:34
Dazzozo	*ergh	18:52:36
Dazzozo	ebay seller doesnt know how to use ebay	18:52:41
Dazzozo	guess what? its dispatched	18:52:47
Dazzozo	did he update the item to say that? nope	18:52:54
rhen	better than the opposite	18:53:17
Dazzozo	lol NOW he updates it to say its been dispatched	18:53:35
Dazzozo	http://i.thebronasium.com/yuki/20131217-185348.png	18:53:51
Dazzozo	it was dispatched yesterday	18:54:07
Dazzozo	i mean the mistake is clear here	18:54:32
Dazzozo	yesterday was 16/12	18:54:38
Dazzozo	it says 17/12 there	18:54:42
Dazzozo	w/e	18:54:46
rymate1234	http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ib5ASsR7L_A	18:55:50
joandrade	hurr durr	18:55:51
Dazzozo	like	18:56:05
Dazzozo	when ebay added those icons	18:56:12
Dazzozo	brilliant idea	18:56:16
Dazzozo	pity people dont actually use them	18:56:22
Dazzozo	the best thing is	18:57:25
Dazzozo	in his PM where he told me it was dispatched yesterday	18:57:32
Dazzozo	he went in to this huge rant about how its Christmas and I chose the slowest postage method	18:57:41
Dazzozo	totally irrelevant to my query	18:57:47
Dazzozo	i wanted to know if they dispatched it on monday, when they should've, as part of "same day post", but i bought it on the weekend	18:58:11
joandrade	exactly	18:58:25
joandrade	well it's on its way	18:58:36
Dazzozo	yup	18:58:44
Dazzozo	i mean its not exactly a christmas present	19:00:04
joandrade	hopefully	19:00:26
joandrade	you'll get to stream before christmas	19:00:32
joandrade	heh	19:00:33
Dazzozo	i dont really care to be honest lol	19:00:35
Dazzozo	preferably asap, but im not gonna die	19:01:03
Dazzozo	im in no rush	19:01:04
rymate1234	asap sucks	19:02:56
rymate1234	i prefer aosp	19:03:00
joandrade	*sad trombone*	19:03:11
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Dazzozo	android super anal project	19:03:34
Dazzozo	has someone fixed webview yet	19:06:18
joandrade	idk	19:07:07
joandrade	you're the one I'd ask tbh	19:07:20
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Alkalinorap_	ok, the hwa is in framework.jar, but idk where exactly	19:09:08
Dazzozo	https://github.com/KonstaT/android_device_zte_atlas40/commit/5559b2c89335721acc7c97244fea6726c9d07c1d	19:09:22
Dazzozo	lol	19:09:23
Alkalinorap_	I only know that if I flash his framework.jar, I have hwa	19:09:35
Dazzozo	Alkalinorap_: baksmali and compare	19:09:57
Alkalinorap_	I did it	19:10:19
Alkalinorap_	now show you the diff	19:10:25
Alkalinorap_	http://pastebin.com/3MiAYKXn	19:11:04
Alkalinorap_	^	19:11:07
Dazzozo	is this gonna crash firefox	19:11:13
Dazzozo	yep it crashed firefox	19:11:21
Dazzozo	k this is a task for chromium	19:11:33
Dazzozo	holy shit all these line changes	19:11:59
Alkalinorap_	yes lol	19:12:10
Alkalinorap_	I scared	19:12:13
Alkalinorap_	I'm*	19:12:16
rymate1234	<@Dazzozo> is this gonna crash firefox	19:12:26
rymate1234	not for me	19:12:28
Dazzozo	i have like 200 tabs	19:12:36
Dazzozo	Alkalinorap_: that very first change is very suspicious	19:12:57
Dazzozo	system/app -> system/apps	19:13:07
rymate1234	Dazzozo: wat	19:13:10
rymate1234	how	19:13:11
Alkalinorap_	yes lol, it was strange when I saw it	19:13:31
Dazzozo	try that first	19:13:37
Dazzozo	rymate1234: i middle click everything and forget	19:14:15
rymate1234	lol	19:14:23
rymate1234	sounds like me	19:14:26
rymate1234	except on a smaller scale	19:14:31
Dazzozo	im gonna test hitbox.tv	19:21:02
Dazzozo	with the SFA beta	19:21:06
Dazzozo	since it actually runs better than the retail game in Dolphin	19:22:26
Alkalinorap_	Dazzozo, the hwa may influence to the battery?	19:22:33
Dazzozo	well, a hacked version of Dolphin	19:22:34
Dazzozo	Alkalinorap_: in the same way that turning the screen on influences the battery? yes	19:23:31
Dazzozo	doing anything on the phone influences the battery	19:23:44
rymate1234	lol	19:23:49
Alkalinorap_	I was wondering if it could influence in excess	19:24:28
Alkalinorap_		19:24:29
Dazzozo	no	19:24:34
Dazzozo	there are far, far, far greater concerns	19:24:41
Dazzozo	mpdecision being awful is one of them	19:24:51
Alkalinorap_	lol yes	19:25:01
Alkalinorap_	I heard a lot of it	19:25:05
Dazzozo	wow, you have to select a game on hitbox that you're streaming	19:25:46
Dazzozo	and it only has Star Fox 64	19:25:49
Dazzozo	fuckin star fox fans	19:25:57
Dazzozo	they dont even deserve SFA	19:25:59
Dazzozo	https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ywOiH01Vqac	19:30:04
adfad666	Uživatel adfad666 [~adfad666@cst2-32-181.cust.vodafone.cz] vstoupil do místnosti.	19:31:15
	Uživatel „adfad666“ opustil místnost (Quit: Changing host).	19:31:16
adfad666	Uživatel adfad666 [~adfad666@cyanogenmod/maintainer/adfad666] vstoupil do místnosti.	19:31:16
jordilopez94	Uživatel jordilopez94 [~jordilope@84.126.148.85.dyn.user.ono.com] vstoupil do místnosti.	19:31:45
adfad666	loooaaads of interesting thingies	19:32:10
Dazzozo	ikr.	19:33:06
Dazzozo	ok if you want to watch me play an incredibly broken version of a game	19:33:48
Dazzozo	http://www.hitbox.tv/Dazzozo	19:33:50
Dazzozo	this is emulated until i get a capture card	19:33:59
Dazzozo	but i'll be playing the final version then anyways	19:34:04
Dazzozo	oh wait i need to fix the sound	19:34:10
modacouserr	im watching dazzozo	19:34:51
modacouserr	*	19:34:52
Dazzozo	lol	19:34:56
modacouserr	well, not really watching but you know what i mean	19:35:07
modacouserr	so that's why you got the capture card	19:35:24
Dazzozo	this isnt the final version of the game	19:35:32
Dazzozo	this is a beta	19:35:35
Dazzozo	leak	19:35:39
modacouserr	going to update phone now, let's see if i get lucky today	19:36:52
rhen	Dazzozo: this is not the unreleased game you talked about yesterday?	19:37:36
adfad666	what am i watching	19:37:50
adfad666	gamecube game?	19:38:16
rhen	wikipedia says that nintendo64	19:39:00
adfad666	controller in the corner looks like gamecube	19:39:27
adfad666	no sound :/	19:39:57
Dazzozo	its GC	19:39:58
Pad^	Clockworkmod supports phone encryption right?	19:40:06
Dazzozo	oh shit sonds broken hang on	19:40:08
Dazzozo	Pad^: yea	19:40:19
Dazzozo	rhen: it is	19:40:26
Dazzozo	in a way	19:40:27
Pad^	thanks Dazzozo	19:40:28
modacouserr	daz, what's the mass storage state atm?	19:40:32
Dazzozo	long story	19:40:32
Dazzozo	modacouserr: dunno	19:40:42
Dazzozo	but basically	19:40:46
Dazzozo	game was n64	19:40:49
Dazzozo	called dinosaur planet	19:40:52
Dazzozo	head honchos at nintendo decided to put fox in the game and have it moved to the GC	19:41:04
modacouserr	mtp works for me, so nvm ty	19:41:05
Dazzozo	and they took out a ton of gameplay elements and simplified the story to facilitate that	19:41:18
Dazzozo	and personally i kinda like the n64 graphics :c	19:41:28
Dazzozo	but, its still a good game	19:41:43
rhen	almost as good as nintendo wii	19:41:46
rhen	the graphic	19:41:51
Dazzozo	this looks broken as fuck, because it is broken as fuck	19:41:56
Dazzozo	when im in dolphin, look what im actually launching	19:42:02
Dazzozo	its a beta build, on a hacked build of dolphin to get it to actually run	19:42:12
Dazzozo	but ultimately it runs at a far better fps than the retail game in dolphin	19:42:20
Dazzozo	i'll fix the sound	19:42:25
Dazzozo	ok stream started again	19:43:11
modacouserr	daz, sorry to ask again what's this? ro.wifi.channels=	19:43:16
Dazzozo	retail game at the bottom, beta at the top	19:43:22
modacouserr	empty in build prop	19:43:24
modacouserr	well, what values should be there	19:43:42
Dazzozo	modacouserr: nothing	19:43:49
modacouserr	makes sense	19:43:55
modacouserr	eheh p.	19:43:56
adfad666	what emulator is that	19:44:02
Dazzozo	dolphin	19:44:08
Dazzozo	i cant play the intro video for too long btw	19:44:19
adfad666	sound!	19:44:20
Dazzozo	it crashes, like it just did	19:44:22
adfad666	those little GC discs killed piracy :/	19:45:11
adfad666	totally realistic	19:45:59
adfad666	spinning gold rings in space	19:46:04
Dazzozo	im fuckin dropping frames again]	19:46:32
Dazzozo	fuck my upload	19:46:43
Dazzozo	its getting worse	19:46:44
Dazzozo	yeah these arwing sections were a last minute thing	19:47:07
Dazzozo	added in the star fox transition	19:47:10
Dazzozo	but they are so obviously rushed	19:47:16
joandrade	stream is loading	19:47:52
Dazzozo	im gonna fix my frame drops in a sec	19:48:02
Dazzozo	yeah fuck this	19:48:59
Dazzozo	dropping all the frames	19:49:04
Dazzozo	fixing	19:49:11
Dazzozo	k	19:49:24
Dazzozo	FUCKING HAPPENING AGAIN	19:49:55
Dazzozo	unreal;	19:49:56
Dazzozo	fuck this connection	19:50:04
Dazzozo	fuck it, im gonna go back to twitch	19:50:14
joandrade	very lags	19:50:14
Dazzozo	twitch was working fine earlier	19:50:21
Dazzozo	http://www.twitch.tv/Dazzozo	19:50:45
modacouserr	oh feck, i just deleted my titanium backup wifi backup	19:51:08
Dazzozo	narrowly dodged a crash there	19:52:01
Dazzozo	that sound glitch	19:52:04
joandrade	no sound?	19:52:37
Dazzozo	oh fuck i forgot	19:52:44
Dazzozo	i changed profiles	19:52:45
Dazzozo	didnt set the fix again	19:52:48
joandrade	lol	19:52:52
joandrade	fine now	19:53:48
Dazzozo	im dropping frames fuck	19:53:53
Dazzozo	FUCK	19:53:58
Dazzozo	this connection	19:53:59
modacouserr	dazzozo: havent you updated your gapps zip?	19:54:03
Dazzozo	modacouserr: i dont have a gapps zip anymore	19:54:09
modacouserr	oh	19:54:19
modacouserr	wich one should i falsh?	19:54:28
modacouserr	flash	19:54:30
Dazzozo	the one linked	19:54:33
modacouserr	ty	19:54:40
	Uživatel „jordilopez94“ opustil místnost (Quit: Read error: Connection reset by peer).	19:54:57
rhen	modacouserr:http://www.modaco.com/topic/367187-gapps-for-cm11-last-updated-2013-12-14/	19:55:07
modacouserr	on it already rhen ty	19:55:32
joandrade	dinner, brb	19:56:01
Dazzozo	gonna drop the bitrate a ton, fuck it	19:57:13
modacouserr	rhen: wiped everything	20:17:20
modacouserr	flash rom	20:17:24
modacouserr	flash gaps	20:17:28
modacouserr	boot	20:17:30
rhen	and there was no launcher? no way	20:17:56
modacouserr	yea, maybe it FCsed	20:18:26
modacouserr	nvm	20:18:28
	Uživatel „ValicekB“ opustil místnost (Quit: Ping timeout: 250 seconds).	20:18:29
modacouserr	that's not the thin i bother with	20:18:35
rhen	can you chack that the launcher3 is listed in the applications?	20:19:35
ValicekB	Uživatel ValicekB [~tbox@dot.snat.baz.cz] vstoupil do místnosti.	20:20:01
Dazzozo	i sorely hope resetting my modem fixes my upload	20:21:34
	Uživatel „ValicekB“ opustil místnost (Quit: Max SendQ exceeded).	20:22:10
ValicekB	Uživatel ValicekB [~tbox@dot.snat.baz.cz] vstoupil do místnosti.	20:22:34
	Uživatel „dr_avila“ opustil místnost (Quit: Read error: Connection reset by peer).	20:30:58
dr_avila	Uživatel dr_avila [~dr_avila@181-160-193-61.baf.movistar.cl] vstoupil do místnosti.	20:31:14
Dazzozo	ok	20:32:35
Dazzozo	gonna reset modem and see what happens	20:32:39
	Uživatel „ValicekB“ opustil místnost (Quit: Max SendQ exceeded).	20:32:55
Dazzozo	i at least wanna be able to stream at 700kbit	20:33:02
Dazzozo	fucking hell	20:33:04
Dazzozo	thats like the "actually watchable" threshold	20:33:11
Dazzozo	"not blocky"	20:33:17
rhen	modacouserr: forget it, I checked the rom and my latest gapps again and no way you have no launcher	20:33:55
Dazzozo	rhen: now you know what device work is like	20:34:49
Dazzozo	"cant reproduce"	20:34:55
Dazzozo	"doesnt actually seem possible"	20:35:04
rhen	It can be frustrating	20:36:22
rhen		20:36:35
ValicekB	Uživatel ValicekB [~tbox@dot.snat.baz.cz] vstoupil do místnosti.	20:37:13
rhen	I'll watch Dragon Ball episode 68	20:37:23
rhen	brb	20:37:24
Dazzozo	http://www.speedtest.net/my-result/3171594168	20:39:23
Dazzozo	thats fucking why	20:39:25
Dazzozo	i dont even have 1mbps up atm	20:39:35
Dazzozo	i lost 0.4mbps of it	20:39:42
joandrade	oh	20:42:33
joandrade	that might be why you can't upload at 700 kbps	20:42:48
Dazzozo	LOL	20:43:10
Dazzozo	http://www.speedtest.net/result/3171604968.png	20:43:11
Dazzozo	fixed my upload	20:43:13
Dazzozo	at a huge cost of my download	20:43:16
Dazzozo	yeah, my stream has been fine for like a year	20:43:27
Dazzozo	i've streamed entire play throughs of sleeping dogs, no frames dropped	20:43:37
Dazzozo	just the last few days	20:43:40
joandrade	damn isp's	20:44:01
Dazzozo	lets give it another test	20:44:13
Dazzozo	to be fair	20:44:19
Dazzozo	since i did that one right after it came back online	20:44:31
joandrade	fwiw http://www.speedtest.net/result/3171605720.png	20:44:49
Dazzozo	I would pay an extra £10 per month for that upload speed	20:45:22
Dazzozo	mine is dire	20:45:32
Dazzozo	and the fact i lost some of it	20:45:36
Dazzozo	its like stealing from someone living on the streets	20:45:42
Dazzozo	i mean cmon	20:45:51
Dazzozo	i barely had 1mbps before	20:45:53
Dazzozo	thats NOTHING	20:45:57
joandrade	4 days of uptime btw	20:46:05
joandrade	on the router	20:46:08
joandrade	got to 89 before the summer	20:46:16
joandrade	yeah how much upload are you paying for?	20:46:29
Dazzozo	god knows, my package is ancient	20:49:50
Dazzozo	i think the problem is the line	20:49:57
Dazzozo	really	20:50:00
joandrade	are you on dsl	20:50:04
Dazzozo	errr what, it thinks i can get fibre optic here now	20:50:59
joandrade	fibre <3	20:51:35
Dazzozo	joandrade: "ADSL max"	20:52:30
Dazzozo	i believe	20:52:33
Dazzozo	lol	20:52:35
joandrade	lol	20:52:42
Dazzozo	Downstream 14,599 Kbps	20:52:52
Dazzozo	Upstream 1,159 Kbps	20:52:52
Dazzozo	according to the router	20:52:54
joandrade	*really small lettering* up to *huge lettering* 16 MEGS SPEED	20:53:19
Dazzozo	brb	20:53:59
joandrade	ok	20:54:09
adfad666	Uživatel adfad666 [~adfad666@cst2-32-181.cust.vodafone.cz] vstoupil do místnosti.	20:54:51
	Uživatel „adfad666“ opustil místnost (Quit: Changing host).	20:54:51
adfad666	Uživatel adfad666 [~adfad666@cyanogenmod/maintainer/adfad666] vstoupil do místnosti.	20:54:51
Dazzozo	back	21:01:31
joandrade	are you busy?	21:02:11
Dazzozo	nope	21:03:38
Dazzozo	tomorrow gonna find out when the contract ends	21:03:45
Dazzozo	i remember it being january	21:03:48
joandrade	could you check on the software hdr now?	21:03:51
Dazzozo	so we might conveniently swap to a fibre package	21:03:54
joandrade	perfect timing	21:03:57
modacouserr	daz, is this afe to do? http://forum.xda-developers.com/showpost.php?p=40278477&postcount=3	21:05:52
modacouserr	safe	21:05:56
modacouserr	gravity box does the thing	21:06:05
Dazzozo	http://i.imgur.com/TUjyj5c.png	21:06:18
joandrade	hell yeah	21:06:43
Dazzozo	i had no idea	21:06:46
joandrade	we're in business	21:06:48
modacouserr	nice speeds	21:06:48
Dazzozo	but 14mbps upload? streaming yes pls	21:06:57
joandrade	bless	21:07:14
Dazzozo	modacouserr: "safe"?	21:07:30
joandrade	and that's not depending on the weather and all that	21:07:37
tilal6991|away	Uživatel „tilal6991|away“ je nyní znám jako tilal6991.	21:08:13
Dazzozo	joandrade: nothing on software hdr yet	21:08:43
joandrade	ok	21:08:49
joandrade	thanks	21:08:53
Dazzozo	hasnt been ported to the new camera app	21:09:01
Alkalinorap_	Dazzozo, is hard to add crt effect to stock?	21:09:44
Dazzozo	i dont know how they disabled it in stock	21:10:08
Dazzozo	so thats like asking me is it hard to do a backwards somersault	21:10:42
Alkalinorap_	one moment, you refer to the effect of old TV, no?	21:11:45
joandrade	oh btw	21:11:45
Alkalinorap_	(to know that we talk about the same)	21:11:49
Alkalinorap_		21:11:51
joandrade	can the aosp messaging app handle emojis?	21:11:59
Dazzozo	i know what the crt effect is.	21:12:01
Dazzozo	:|	21:12:02
Dazzozo	joandrade: isnt the emoji support system wide	21:12:14
joandrade	yeah but the cm11 messaging app doesn't have the little button to enable input	21:12:28
Dazzozo	its there for me...	21:12:47
Alkalinorap_	no, if I just said because maybe I was in the wrong	21:13:09
Alkalinorap_	lol	21:13:10
modacouserr	fuck it didnt asked for pin AGAIN	21:13:23
modacouserr	wtf is going on here	21:13:27
rhen	modacouserr: I had the same problem with KK launcher too	21:13:52
joandrade	it's not here	21:13:55
rhen	If you wipe dalvik cache, it will ask for your pin	21:14:12
modacouserr	let me try that	21:14:22
modacouserr	oh, and my settings get reseted	21:14:37
rhen	but if you restart your phone, bam, you get the launcher straight after boot with no ask for pin and you have to wipe dalvik again	21:15:20
rhen	I don't know why do this	21:15:32
modacouserr	exactly, but i didnt know it was because of launcher	21:15:37
modacouserr	im using nova	21:15:41
rhen	stock launcher3 works fine	21:15:43
modacouserr	booting	21:16:31
modacouserr	rhen, it only happens to you with kk launcher?	21:17:11
cameron581	Uživatel cameron581 [62aacf44@gateway/web/freenode/ip.98.170.207.68] vstoupil do místnosti.	21:17:38
rhen	I haven't tried another launcher, just KK and stock.	21:17:45
rhen	stock works fine	21:17:49
modacouserr	oh my, now it's updating all the apps	21:18:28
modacouserr	i forgot this	21:18:30
modacouserr		21:18:31
modacouserr	boooring	21:18:32
rhen		21:18:39
droidd	Uživatel droidd [40e578fd@gateway/web/freenode/ip.64.229.120.253] vstoupil do místnosti.	21:19:30
rhen	I'll have to do a logcat of boot	21:20:44
modacouserr	rhen: will this work? remove included launcher and stick with nova alone	21:20:46
modacouserr	well, wiping dalvik didnt work for me	21:21:32
modacouserr	i'll do like i did before	21:21:43
rhen	do you see the pin request form for a moment?	21:22:10
rhen	before launcher?	21:22:20
modacouserr	not that i noticed	21:22:27
rhen	my experience was that the screen appeared for a moment then bamm, launcher	21:22:50
modacouserr	where's the launcher apk located?	21:23:28
modacouserr	gonna try to delete it	21:23:35
rhen	I'll setup adb now (havent installed since updated to windows 8.1)	21:23:47
joandrade	if I'm not mistaken	21:23:56
modacouserr	just like me	21:24:00
joandrade	it's /system/app/com.android.systemui	21:24:10
joandrade	or close enough	21:24:15
rhen	./system/priv-app	21:24:18
rhen	nooo	21:24:29
rhen	sytemui is another thing	21:24:37
joandrade	o kok	21:24:47
joandrade	lol, ok ok	21:24:50
modacouserr	got it	21:25:03
modacouserr	i only have systemui	21:25:40
rhen	you dont have system\priv-app\Launcher3.apk ?	21:26:14
rhen	oh, you said that you have no launcher	21:26:33
modacouserr	nope	21:26:41
modacouserr	yea, but i thought the apk would be here	21:26:46
droidd	oh, is launcher3 good?	21:26:49
rhen	but it's a mistery that why	21:26:52
modacouserr	yup, the exact same issues i had with the earier build	21:27:44
modacouserr	home button stops workig	21:27:50
modacouserr	no pin question	21:27:53
modacouserr	brb	21:28:14
joandrade	home button stops working > that's because there isn't a launcher to respond to the home button press	21:28:15
modacouserr	joandrade: there is, nove	21:28:29
modacouserr	nova	21:28:30
joandrade	oh	21:28:37
modacouserr	brb	21:28:40
rhen	modacouserr: try to copy launcher3.apk to the /system/priv-app from the ROM zip, then restart	21:28:43
joandrade	but the task switcher should work	21:28:52
rhen	doesn't work in this case	21:29:09
rhen	droidd: you almost can't setup anything. It is not so configurable and has a bug that if you turn off the search bar, you can't remove anything from the home screen	21:29:40
rhen	and the app drawer has a crowded 5x5 grid	21:30:09
joandrade	rhen when it happened to me, it worked	21:30:58
rhen	you have the pin code issue too?	21:31:21
joandrade	I don't use a pin on my sim card	21:31:31
droidd	ah ok	21:31:36
droidd	i will stay with apex then	21:31:40
pahanco	Uživatel pahanco [~pahanco@91.210.101.35] vstoupil do místnosti.	21:31:52
rhen	droidd: you have pin code input issue?	21:31:55
droidd	hmm	21:32:26
droidd	sometimes my pin code comes on top of my background	21:32:34
droidd	its hard to describe	21:32:38
droidd	like I can see my homescreen, and the numbers for pin are on top	21:33:00
rhen	if you restart your phone, you can input your pin code of SIM card?	21:33:14
droidd	yes	21:33:21
droidd	i think so	21:33:25
droidd	i havent restarted in a long time lol	21:33:29
droidd	should i switch to nova?	21:33:44
rhen	I noticed it 2 days ago too	21:33:48
rhen	no	21:34:02
rhen	if your launcher works fine for you, stay with it	21:34:18
droidd	ok i will	21:35:26
droidd	you use apex as well?	21:35:38
rhen	I use the stock Launcher3 now since I can't input my pin number while using KK launcher	21:36:58
rhen	only after rom upgrade or dalvik wipe	21:37:13
rhen	after simple reboot.. no	21:37:28
rhen	strange	21:37:34
joandrade	http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=v8kU8aCVG0Y	21:38:07
devilonlycry	Uživatel devilonlycry [5f5e7a02@gateway/web/cgi-irc/kiwiirc.com/ip.95.94.122.2] vstoupil do místnosti.	21:41:10
droidd	i have heard good things about novalauncher	21:41:10
droidd	but i have not tried it	21:41:13
devilonlycry	hello all	21:41:16
joandrade	hi	21:41:25
rhen	hi	21:41:37
devilonlycry	sorry comming here but im fully desperate	21:41:54
devilonlycry	i cannot install a update.app...	21:42:15
devilonlycry	always giving me an error	21:42:27
joandrade	what are you running, and what do you want to install?	21:42:31
	Uživatel „pahanco“ opustil místnost (Quit: K-Lined).	21:42:56
devilonlycry	im running a b936 and i want do downgrade to b895 by huawei metod	21:43:22
devilonlycry	i only can make it from a imei hack... I wanna know how to make it from huawei official downgrade	21:44:08
devilonlycry	i know it is stupid... but im trying it and i cant make it... Maybe im doying something wrong -.-'	21:44:35
joandrade	I don't think you can do that without using the imei hack	21:45:21
rhen	there is an official downgrade tool for that	21:45:39
devilonlycry	really?	21:45:42
devilonlycry	yes	21:45:46
devilonlycry	im trying that official downgrade	21:45:54
devilonlycry	but i cant make it for nothing... always giving me an error when i try thw "middle package" app -.-'	21:46:16
rhen	what error?	21:46:33
devilonlycry	pink bar error... it unpack puck when try install it gives me an error	21:47:01
devilonlycry	with a yellow simbol	21:47:09
devilonlycry	i read in a forum if i use install-superrecovery-windows i have to flash again and root with unlockbootloader and then i could use the official way... Already dunne that and the error keeps...	21:48:38
adfad666	it's a pity there still aren't many good games for linux on steam	21:49:16
joandrade	what are you playing adfad666	21:49:44
adfad666	i got a bunch of games but I cba to boot to wondows	21:50:07
rhen	devilonlycry: you have unlocked the bootloader	21:50:10
rhen	?	21:50:12
devilonlycry	yes	21:50:21
devilonlycry	with unlockbootloader	21:50:30
devilonlycry	atm i have cwm "installed" too...	21:50:47
adfad666	I just finished Bioshock 2 in windows, don't wanna go back there for a while	21:50:56
rhen	install official B936 again with update.app then downgrade with the official tool	21:51:06
devilonlycry	I used it to flash a b936 zip... i got a stuck huawei boot simbol	21:51:27
devilonlycry	ok i will try it ty very much rhen	21:51:38
rhen	can you make it? copy dload folder to the sd and start the phone with the vol+ and vol - pressed	21:52:39
rhen	;9	21:52:42
rhen		21:52:45
devilonlycry	yes i can	21:52:59
devilonlycry	well i can try	21:53:02
rhen		21:53:03
joandrade	I'm pretty addicted to rogue legacy right now	21:53:18
devilonlycry	i need to find a download for that version i dont have it atm	21:53:19
joandrade	whenever I have the time to play anyway	21:53:28
devilonlycry	rhen: i can use the b936 from uk ota? im in europe	21:56:02
devilonlycry	*can i use	21:56:03
rhen	doesn't your operator made available the update?	21:56:30
rhen	I'm from hungary and the update is on the hungarian vodafone site	21:57:03
devilonlycry	idk i will see	21:57:21
devilonlycry	im from portugal and im vodafone too	21:57:29
cameron581	anyone in here using moto g?	21:58:03
droidd	i wish!	22:02:19
devilonlycry	rhen vodafone have the rom in site?	22:03:58
rhen	in hugary, yes	22:04:16
devilonlycry	bahhh	22:04:20
devilonlycry	i think vodafone pt dont have it	22:04:31
joandrade	just install a generic version	22:05:39
rhen	oh, vodafone hungary is removed the b936, only b952 on their site	22:05:49
devilonlycry	i will try one i found	22:06:46
rhen	devilonlycry:http://www.androidpt.com/index.php?/topic/41015-rom-voda-pt-b936-updateapp-b960-cwm/	22:09:00
devilonlycry	ty rhen i already try that link but its down	22:09:24
devilonlycry	its a dropbox link but it is broken...	22:09:41
rhen	well... rip	22:10:01
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rhen	modacouserr: I got pin code screen now with kk launcher while phone connected to my PC	22:14:09
devilonlycry	rhen: if i try another version its normal that it "crashes" in middle of pink bar? i dont have the white letters now...	22:14:28
devilonlycry	"current_operate=2	22:15:19
devilonlycry	call dload_machine data process failed,module = QCSBLHD_CFGDATA	22:15:19
devilonlycry	CMD=0xf,moduleaddr = 0xf0000000, len_tmp=0x2524	22:15:19
devilonlycry	dload_sd_ram_data_proc->(retry >= DLOAD_RETRY) failed!	22:15:19
devilonlycry	current_operate=2	22:15:19
devilonlycry	call dload_machine data process failed,module = QCSBLHD_CFGDATA	22:15:20
devilonlycry	CMD=0xf,moduleaddr = 0xf0000000, len_tmp=0x2524	22:15:20
devilonlycry	dload_sd_ram_data_proc->(retry >= DLOAD_RETRY) failed!	22:15:25
devilonlycry	"current_operate=2	22:15:25
devilonlycry	call dload_machine data process failed,module = QCSBLHD_CFGDATA	22:15:29
devilonlycry	CMD=0xf,moduleaddr = 0xf0000000, len_tmp=0x2524	22:15:30
devilonlycry	dload_sd_ram_data_proc->(retry >= DLOAD_RETRY) failed!"	22:15:32
devilonlycry	ups... sorry	22:15:32
devilonlycry	this is the end of error	22:15:33
fpb	Uživatel fpb [~fpb@148.35.166.178.rev.vodafone.pt] vstoupil do místnosti.	22:19:40
rhen	devilonlycry: stupid questin. do you copy the dload folder to the external sd?	22:24:43
rhen	*question	22:24:59
devilonlycry	yes	22:25:43
devilonlycry	with update.app in it	22:25:52
devilonlycry	and formated sd before	22:25:53
rhen	i haven't found any solution maybe you can try this: http://forum.xda-developers.com/showpost.php?p=25449363&postcount=2	22:27:06
rhen	it is for huawei honor but it can be work, so do it on your own risk	22:27:40
devilonlycry	ok ok ty	22:28:00
devilonlycry	i will try	22:28:03
rhen	do a nandroid backup and save the whole clockworkmod folder to the pc	22:28:10
devilonlycry	dont need	22:28:25
devilonlycry	already made that	22:28:28
rhen		22:28:38
devilonlycry	i have full backed up everything... emei, nandroid and files	22:28:51
tilal6991	Uživatel „tilal6991“ je nyní znám jako tilal6991|away.	22:34:12
tilal6991|away	Uživatel „tilal6991|away“ je nyní znám jako tilal6991.	22:40:28
tilal6991	Uživatel „tilal6991“ je nyní znám jako tilal6991|away.	22:42:45
tilal6991|away	Uživatel „tilal6991|away“ je nyní znám jako tilal6991.	22:45:06
Dazzozo	back	22:45:33
Dazzozo	joandrade: jan 3rd is install date	22:45:38
Dazzozo	for BT infinity	22:45:40
Dazzozo	so i have good internet soon	22:45:54
rhen	\(^o^)/	22:46:04
Dazzozo	did i miss anything	22:46:05
Dazzozo	it actually costs us less	22:46:16
joandrade	hell ye	22:46:19
Dazzozo	than our current package	22:46:20
joandrade		22:46:23
joandrade	the 50 meg package?	22:46:27
Dazzozo	we're on an old package	22:46:30
Dazzozo	the package is up to 76 meg	22:46:43
Dazzozo	but my line can only do 50 meg	22:46:48
Dazzozo	decided the waste was worth it	22:46:53
Dazzozo	to max out the line	22:46:55
Dazzozo	if i went for a lower fibre package i had a £30 install fee	22:47:04
tilal6991	Lol	22:47:08
Dazzozo	but either way, still paying less than currently	22:47:12
tilal6991	Our one is slightly more expensive but soooo worth it.	22:47:24
Dazzozo	"Unlimited BT Infinity 2"	22:47:27
Dazzozo	is what im getting	22:47:37
joandrade	such infinity	22:47:40
tilal6991	Lol	22:47:41
tilal6991	Infinity^2	22:47:50
rhen	it is common in hungary. you have to make a new contract every 2 year to get the best price/performance ratio	22:47:52
rhen		22:47:52
tilal6991	Infinity^Infinity	22:48:00
Dazzozo	rhen: yep, seems thats how it works here too	22:48:31
joandrade	we do that here	22:49:05
joandrade	speaking of which	22:49:10
joandrade	my fibre package was installed in feb 2012 so	22:49:22
droidd	we very recently got 2yr contracts here in canadaland	22:50:42
droidd	it was only 3yr up until a few months ago	22:50:51
Dazzozo	mine is 18 months	22:50:53
droidd	we are so behind	22:50:53
rhen	I gotta go	22:51:20
rhen	have a good night	22:51:24
rhen	guys	22:51:26
rhen	bye	22:51:30
droidd	goodnite	22:51:30
tilal6991	Uživatel „tilal6991“ je nyní znám jako tilal6991|away.	22:51:32
droidd	oh, is that tillaz?	22:51:42
Dazzozo	who?	22:51:56
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droidd	tilal6991|away <---	22:52:03
Dazzozo	lol no	22:52:07
Dazzozo	tilal6991|away is an actual dev	22:52:10
Dazzozo	</controversial>	22:52:15
droidd	ouch lol	22:52:17
droidd	tillaz also did work for the g300	22:52:45
droidd	you two are the household names of these phones lol	22:53:02
droidd	and kratos	22:53:09
droidd	and joestone	22:53:12
Dazzozo	im not a fan of people who modify stock roms	22:53:13
droidd	wow we have lots of devs	22:53:16
Dazzozo	well	22:53:28
Dazzozo	i have nothing against them	22:53:30
Dazzozo	i just dont think its anything close to the shit we have to deal with	22:53:37
droidd	it must be exponentially more difficult to port something like 4.4	22:54:25
droidd	but stock based roms are nice and reliable	22:54:43
droidd	it depends	22:54:45
Dazzozo	i have nothing against people who use them, or who make them	22:54:53
Dazzozo	i understand they have their use for some people	22:54:57
Dazzozo	i just dont think the actual work compares	22:55:06
Dazzozo		22:55:06
rymate1234	droidd: i like to call 'em winzip roms	22:55:14
rymate1234	as that's what you use to make 'em	22:55:24
Dazzozo	everything works already... what exactly do you DO	22:55:37
Dazzozo	lol	22:55:37
rymate1234	(the stock based roms)	22:55:39
rymate1234	Dazzozo: add bloat	22:55:45
joandrade	winzippers	22:55:46
rymate1234	install tweaks	22:55:51
joandrade	enable hwa everywhere	22:55:56
joandrade	ALL THE HWA	22:56:01
Dazzozo	that was a 1 character change as far as we can tell	22:56:06
rymate1234	wow	22:56:18
joandrade	sh	22:56:20
rymate1234	such effort	22:56:22
joandrade	you need to know which line to change	22:56:26
rymate1234	joandrade: how do i google	22:56:34
rhen	Uživatel rhen [~rhen@catv-89-133-86-26.catv.broadband.hu] vstoupil do místnosti.	22:56:36
Dazzozo	lets do another speed test	22:56:50
Dazzozo	if i have acceptable upload i might stream some	22:56:57
droidd	on the topic, do we know if huawei is updating beyond B199?	22:56:59
rymate1234	ahahahahahaha	22:57:04
Dazzozo	if they do its bugfix	22:57:08
rymate1234	probably not	22:57:10
rymate1234	no blobs = no huawei updates	22:57:22
Dazzozo	you arent gonna see 4.2	22:57:25
Dazzozo	or anything radical	22:57:28
Dazzozo	apparently theyre doing official firefox OS#	22:57:34
Dazzozo	but yea w/e	22:57:40
droidd	oh really?	22:57:48
Dazzozo	yus	22:57:51
rymate1234	firefox os?	22:57:52
rymate1234	wow	22:57:52
rymate1234	that;s really relevent	22:57:59
droidd	aww lol	22:58:05
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droidd	you got my hopes up and then crushed them	22:58:14
Dazzozo	idk if they're going to make it available for us, but its definitely Y300 hardware	22:58:14
Dazzozo	i've seen the kernel tag	22:58:28
rymate1234	"Anyone wanting a quick fix - just grab a kernel (the boot.img I believe) from a dazzozo CM9 build, shove it in my CM9.2.2 build and flash it. Since there's no kernel changes, it should work. (I take no responsibility for spooked cats, bricked devices or any evil spirits that may be summoned from trying this.)"	22:58:39
Dazzozo	its also ICS based	22:58:45
rymate1234	yay i am develop	22:58:48
Dazzozo	which means we get ICS blobs for the Y300	22:58:51
Dazzozo	so an actual ICS port is on the cards	22:58:56
rymate1234	Dazzozo: \o/	22:59:12
rymate1234	cm9 for y300	22:59:19
Dazzozo	seems funny but yeah	22:59:25
rymate1234	POST PREDITION	22:59:28
Dazzozo	it might be the device's best bet	22:59:31
rymate1234	*predictions	22:59:34
rymate1234	1. "wtf cm9 is so old"	22:59:41
Dazzozo	the main thing is the camera blobs	22:59:48
rymate1234	2. "where's 4.5"	22:59:50
Dazzozo	we could have everything working on the Y300, besides the camera atm	22:59:58
joandrade	3. "stock browser very lags"	22:59:59
Dazzozo	fuck off	23:00:04
Dazzozo	all of you	23:00:09
rhen	Uživatel „rhen“ je nyní znám jako rhen|away.	23:00:33
droidd	aww lol	23:00:40
droidd	you dont mean that <3	23:00:49
Dazzozo	the way we'd have to port it currently is with the G300's blobs	23:00:54
rymate1234	k fucking off brb	23:00:58
Dazzozo	and they dont support the Y300 sensors sooooooo	23:01:01
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Dazzozo	rip	23:01:09
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Dazzozo	hi	23:01:13
rymate1234	back	23:01:15
droidd	wb lol	23:01:23
joandrade	lol	23:01:31
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joandrade	Uživatel joandrade [~j@bl22-247-25.dsl.telepac.pt] vstoupil do místnosti.	23:02:14
joandrade	I was closing stuff and xchat was a victim	23:02:20
Dazzozo	gg	23:02:23
rymate1234	sold some steam trading cards	23:03:22
rymate1234	yay 48p	23:03:47
droidd	why is firefoxos irrelevant?	23:04:19
droidd	it looks interesting	23:04:26
rymate1234	because it's shit	23:04:30
rymate1234	only good thing is that we'll get ics blobs	23:04:54
joandrade	cya	23:05:45
droidd	ics > jellybean 4.1 ?	23:06:08
rymate1234	yes	23:06:44
rymate1234	uses less resources	23:06:48
rymate1234	also ics is best android	23:07:04
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droidd	interesting	23:07:19
droidd	does ics use less resources than kitkat?	23:07:29
rymate1234	probably about the same ram wise afaik	23:07:47
droidd	this is my first jellybean phone, i dont know any better lol	23:08:32
rymate1234	jellybean runs like ass on my phone	23:09:07
rymate1234	then again my phone is an armv6 ancient thing	23:09:16
droidd	which phone is that?	23:09:29
rymate1234	zte crescent	23:09:58
rymate1234	it's basically as I understand it an armv6 g300	23:10:21
rymate1234	except much shittier	23:10:27
droidd	ah ok	23:12:26
droidd	but it runs ics ok?	23:12:38
Pad^	+rymate1234 | also ics is best android	23:15:12
Pad^	why?	23:15:12
rymate1234	droidd: yeah	23:15:19
rymate1234	Pad^: it's cal	23:15:26
rymate1234	eh fuck	23:15:33
Pad^	cal?	23:15:36
rymate1234	Pad^: it's called an opinion	23:15:41
rymate1234		23:15:44
Pad^	based on what?	23:15:47
rymate1234	my experience with android on my phone	23:16:21
rymate1234	(Your mileage may vary, terms and conditions apply)	23:16:34
Dazzozo	yea you should really see the difference on armv6	23:16:42
rymate1234	Dazzozo: yup	23:16:49
rymate1234	Cm10 was just unusable	23:16:56
Dazzozo	read: ics is actually usable	23:16:58
rymate1234	Cm10.1 was just about bearable	23:17:09
rymate1234	cm10.2 broke wiki	23:17:15
rymate1234	*wifi	23:17:18
Dazzozo	well	23:17:22
Dazzozo	did it?	23:17:25
Pad^	Here I was, thinking I was going to learn something today, after all...	23:17:27
Dazzozo	even if you fixed the kernel like i said	23:17:29
rymate1234	Dazzozo: meh	23:17:37
Dazzozo	Pad^: like what?	23:17:44
Dazzozo	how the fuck are we meant to evidence it	23:17:53
Pad^	Why ICS is the best android?	23:17:58
Dazzozo	you already got your answer	23:18:29
Pad^	lol	23:18:42
Dazzozo	im not involved here	23:18:48
Dazzozo	i can back up his claims about that phone	23:18:57
Pad^	I don't care about the phone	23:19:08
rymate1234	Pad^: ices was the first version of android that was actually decent	23:19:12
rymate1234	*ics	23:19:16
Dazzozo	well thats what hes fucking talking about	23:19:18
Dazzozo	<Pad^> based on what?	23:19:29
Dazzozo	<rymate1234> my experience with android on my phone	23:19:29
Pad^	Dazzozo you should calm down your tone from time to time, I didn't insult you, did I?	23:19:56
Dazzozo	wtf	23:20:07
Dazzozo	my tone is fine thanks	23:20:19
rymate1234	Clearly the best version of android is honeycomb	23:20:41
rymate1234	it was the first holoyolo version	23:20:48
Dazzozo	"ics ran better on my phone"	23:20:48
Dazzozo	"i dont care about your phone"	23:20:52
Pad^	And it's the sweetest phone	23:21:00
Pad^	* android	23:21:03
droidd	i liked gingerbread	23:23:12
Pad^	Dazzozo The thing is, I saw comments involving KitKat too, I was curious and then I asked, just that, and then you jumped out of nowhere	23:24:33
Dazzozo	<Dazzozo> yea you should really see the difference on armv6	23:24:52
Pad^	"the fuck that the fuck this"	23:24:55
Dazzozo	totally jumped out of nowhere	23:24:56
Pad^	Gosh	23:25:00
Dazzozo	honestly	23:25:12
Dazzozo	<Pad^> Here I was, thinking I was going to learn something today, after all...	23:25:12
Dazzozo	i think you started it sir	23:25:14
Dazzozo	this seemed a bit unnecessary	23:25:21
Pad^	yes you are right, I admit it	23:25:38
Dazzozo	oookay o_o	23:26:49
Pad^	Just thought I was reading random statements spreading words without any basis	23:27:01
Pad^	"This is better than that" "Why?" "Just because."	23:27:16
Dazzozo	except it wasnt just because	23:27:32
droidd	well thats settled	23:27:38
Dazzozo	he said, jelly bean ran like shit and ics was actually usable	23:27:50
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Dazzozo	a lot of people felt the same way on the g300	23:28:20
Dazzozo	maybe theres fuckin something going on here	23:28:31
Dazzozo	i cant see it being placebo	23:28:35
Pad^	I didn't feel it on g300, I kind of disliked ICS	23:29:06
Pad^	And I used it until kitkat	23:29:17
Pad^	* 4.3	23:29:27
Solitary	Uživatel Solitary [~Solitary@ip-94-112-195-124.net.upcbroadband.cz] vstoupil do místnosti.	23:29:28
ChanServ	Uživatel „ChanServ“ nastavil uživateli „Solitary“ režim +v.	23:29:34
Dazzozo	personally I like ICS because honestly I haven't really used many of android's newer features	23:29:37
Dazzozo	what has it actually had? quick settings, lock screen widgets	23:29:48
Dazzozo	i prefer the style of ICS	23:29:55
Dazzozo	the old notification drawer	23:29:58
Dazzozo	i miss the blue EVERYWHERE	23:30:05
Dazzozo	the whole tron thing was awesome	23:30:12
Pad^	Expanded notifications are a really good feature	23:30:16
Dazzozo	ICS seemed to get a lot right, and I have a soft spot for it	23:30:28
Dazzozo	i could probably just easily install an ICS theme	23:30:37
Pad^	Yeah, I agree with blue, now it feels like if someone died	23:30:39
droidd	were there big differences between 4.0.0 to 4.0.4?	23:31:03
Dazzozo	Google cocked up the API in versions prior to 4.0.3	23:31:22
Dazzozo	or something	23:31:23
Dazzozo	and as a result 4.0.3 was a newer API version	23:31:32
Dazzozo	and they recommended manufacturers only ship 4.0.3+	23:31:39
Dazzozo	and not 4.0->4.0.2	23:31:46
Dazzozo	icr the actual details	23:31:51
droidd	i think i was stuck on 4.0.0	23:32:45
droidd	it did some funny things sometimes	23:33:06
droidd	but it could have been senseui	23:33:11
Dazzozo	http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Android_version_history#Android_4.0.E2.80.934.0.2_Ice_Cream_Sandwich_.28API_level_14.29	23:33:17
Dazzozo	API level 14 and 15	23:33:21
droidd	oh wow ty	23:33:44
Dazzozo	Google's Gabe Cohen stated that Android 4.0 was "theoretically compatible" with any Android 2.3.x device in production at that time.	23:33:57
Dazzozo	very... very wise words	23:34:00
Dazzozo	>THEORETICALLY	23:34:03
Dazzozo	i dont think there is a better word	23:34:21
droidd	isnt gb -> ics fairly common?	23:34:48
droidd	for factory updates?	23:35:09
Dazzozo	yes	23:35:15
Dazzozo	but if you're taking a device from 2.3 to 4.0	23:35:25
Dazzozo	with no manufacturer support	23:35:28
Dazzozo	oh boy...	23:35:32
Dazzozo	lets not go through that again	23:35:46
droidd	lol i can imagine	23:36:17
droidd	i sort of miss gb	23:37:04
droidd	i know its ancient history now	23:37:28
EloYGomeZ	Uživatel EloYGomeZ [~EloYGomeZ@17.Red-83-50-249.dynamicIP.rima-tde.net] vstoupil do místnosti.	23:38:11
droidd	at what point does google call the next version 5.0?	23:38:14
Dazzozo	in a weird way, im glad i have hardware compatible with gingerbread	23:38:21
Dazzozo	o_o	23:38:22
droidd	was kitkat not a big enough step from jellybean?	23:38:33
modacouserr	maybe they have something in mind	23:38:49
Dazzozo	kitkat wasnt really huge	23:39:17
Dazzozo	its not what 4.0 brought	23:39:35
modacouserr	daz, can you help me?	23:41:13
modacouserr	not really help	23:41:16
modacouserr	it«s just a really stupid question	23:41:22
modacouserr	can cm file manager have root access? and actually access both sd cards?	23:41:51
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modacouserr	omfg, it is in the options	23:44:02
adfad666	I'm gonna try it	23:46:07
adfad666	see if I can build with *those* files	23:46:24
adfad666	raw CAF branch, add those files and bam	23:47:38
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cybojenix-away	Uživatel „cybojenix-away“ je nyní znám jako cybojenix.	23:52:54
droidd	Dazzozo: if you had to do it again, Nexus 5 or Moto G?	23:52:54
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Dazzozo	droidd: Nexus 5	23:53:31
droidd	ahh I was hoping youd say moto G	23:54:00
droidd	its calling my name	23:54:04
Dazzozo	well i had a nexus 4 before	23:55:04
Dazzozo	it would be a downgrade	23:55:06
adfad666	lol that's like asking vauxhall or mercedes	23:58:47