Generated: 20.04.2024 12:38:22. Messages: 300
Expected startup is about 10.2.2014
| intensedarkness | I can't understand why the fuck google decided to waste so much screen real estate with virtually permanent navigation buttons | 20:46:10 |
| Dazzozo | because theyre not meant to be considered part of the screen | 20:46:41 |
| Dazzozo | its not a waste | 20:46:44 |
| Dazzozo | thats like saying | 20:46:48 |
| Dazzozo | physical buttons are a waste of screen real estate | 20:46:53 |
| Dazzozo | because you could expand the screen downwards | 20:46:58 |
| Dazzozo | you need buttons | 20:47:01 |
| Dazzozo | google just chose to do them in software and it works a lot better | 20:47:08 |
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| morgan.freenode.net | Uživatel „morgan.freenode.net“ nastavil režim (#huawei-g300 +cnt). | 21:05:36 |
| intensedarkness | Yeah result would be the same, but keeping the lcd the same and adding capacitive buttons would be cheaper then extending lcd | 21:05:37 |
| Dazzozo | im not going to speculate why google didnt, but they didnt, personally i dont even see a problem with the design of the nexus 4 | 21:05:41 |
| Dazzozo | i do want SOME bezels | 21:05:56 |
| Dazzozo | otherwise it looks like ass | 21:05:59 |
| rymate1234 | also | 21:06:02 |
| rymate1234 | Bezels help when | 21:06:08 |
| rymate1234 | Um | 21:06:09 |
| rymate1234 | Holding the fucking phone | 21:06:13 |
| Dazzozo | holding it sideways | 21:06:18 |
| intensedarkness | Noooooo lol | 21:06:27 |
| intensedarkness | I love the LG G2's design | 21:06:38 |
| Dazzozo | im not holding the fucking frame when i hold a phone sideways | 21:06:39 |
| intensedarkness | Lol | 21:06:40 |
| Dazzozo | thats asking for trouble | 21:06:48 |
| Dazzozo | G2 looks shit | 21:07:04 |
| intensedarkness | N4 looks shit compared to the G2 | 21:07:38 |
| intensedarkness | |
21:07:43 |
| Dazzozo | well that sucks for you | 21:07:48 |
| Dazzozo | you bought one | 21:07:50 |
| rymate1234 | I like my crescent | 21:07:58 |
| Dazzozo | G2's entire back looks dicks | 21:08:11 |
| rymate1234 | Pretty good design, pretty shit build quality | 21:08:12 |
| intensedarkness | But n4 looks alright when NOT compared to the G2 | 21:08:21 |
| intensedarkness | |
21:08:27 |
| Dazzozo | nope | 21:08:31 |
| intensedarkness | g2 back does look shite though | 21:08:56 |
| intensedarkness | Front is beautiful | 21:09:03 |
| Dazzozo | the front is almost no different lol | 21:09:32 |
| Dazzozo | other than a fucking LG logo | 21:09:38 |
| Dazzozo | which can fuck off | 21:09:45 |
| Dazzozo | no logos on front pls | 21:10:06 |
| intensedarkness | Agreed | 21:10:24 |
| intensedarkness | But LG didn't waste so much of the front | 21:10:39 |
| intensedarkness | On fucking bezels | 21:10:46 |
| Dazzozo | there's still pretty beefy bezels | 21:10:55 |
| intensedarkness | With the G2 | 21:10:55 |
| Dazzozo | if you dont want bezels | 21:11:02 |
| Dazzozo | Nexus 5 | 21:11:03 |
| Dazzozo | Nexus 5 looks anorexic | 21:11:19 |
| Dazzozo | i dont know what it is | 21:11:21 |
| intensedarkness | N5 has higher screen to bezel ratio than the G2; | 21:11:39 |
| intensedarkness | ?? | 21:11:41 |
| Dazzozo | >screen to bezel ratio | 21:11:59 |
| Dazzozo | official measurement | 21:12:03 |
| Dazzozo | well i can tell you | 21:12:07 |
| Dazzozo | with my eyes | 21:12:08 |
| Dazzozo | it has less bezels | 21:12:11 |
| Dazzozo | go home with your official screen-to-bezel ratio | 21:12:26 |
| Dazzozo | i dont even like less bezels | 21:12:52 |
| Dazzozo | just measure the size of a brick, buy a perfect fit lcd and mount it to it | 21:13:16 |
| Dazzozo | there you go, your new bezel-less phone | 21:13:21 |
| intensedarkness | http://phandroid.com/2012/05/25/handy-graph-shows-screen-to-bezel-ratios-of-popular-android-handsets/ | 21:15:01 |
| intensedarkness | I need that for today | 21:15:10 |
| intensedarkness | Not so out of date | 21:15:15 |
| intensedarkness | It's only a matter of time until bezels bigger than the G2 bezels | 21:16:54 |
| intensedarkness | Are a thing of the past | 21:17:01 |
| rymate1234 | pls no | 21:17:15 |
| Dazzozo | never let intensedarkness design phones | 21:17:45 |
| Dazzozo | is something we've all learned today | 21:17:50 |
| intensedarkness | Lollll | 21:17:53 |
| intensedarkness | Noo | 21:18:00 |
| intensedarkness | We've learned that if Dazzozo doesn't like it, noone should | 21:18:30 |
| intensedarkness | |
21:18:33 |
| Dazzozo | its true | 21:18:37 |
| Dazzozo | "stop liking what i don't like" | 21:18:59 |
| rymate1234 | no | 21:19:00 |
| rymate1234 | it's just logical | 21:19:05 |
| rymate1234 | you need bezels | 21:19:08 |
| rymate1234 | to hold the damn thing | 21:19:12 |
| Dazzozo | you do kinda need SOME bezel | 21:19:18 |
| Dazzozo | for holding it sideways without covering the screen | 21:19:26 |
| intensedarkness | Yeah SOME | 21:21:11 |
| intensedarkness | But LESS | 21:21:13 |
| Dazzozo | lol | 21:21:16 |
| intensedarkness | Than most currenty have | 21:21:23 |
| intensedarkness | *typo | 21:21:28 |
| intensedarkness | Also when I hold my phone I never actually touch the glass on the front | 21:22:40 |
| Dazzozo | i do horizontally | 21:22:53 |
| intensedarkness | Maybe that's coz it's in a cover | 21:22:57 |
| Dazzozo | just for grip | 21:22:59 |
| intensedarkness | Mine is in a grippy ish cover | 21:23:23 |
| intensedarkness | But when you hold it horizontally, thumbs for touching the screen and first fingers around the edge, and the rest of the fingers round the back? | 21:24:55 |
| intensedarkness | Or not | 21:25:08 |
| Dazzozo | yep | 21:25:45 |
| Dazzozo | no case | 21:26:24 |
| Dazzozo | on my N4 | 21:26:25 |
| Dazzozo | did have for a while | 21:26:42 |
| Dazzozo | but then i skinned the back | 21:26:47 |
| Dazzozo | and put it in a sleeve when i was out | 21:26:55 |
| Dazzozo | no case ftw | 21:26:59 |
| intensedarkness | Anyway with the screenshots of the N5 | 21:29:39 |
| intensedarkness | The buttons now look like they're on an overlay | 21:30:11 |
| intensedarkness | Hopefully in 4.4 the buttons will be on a transparent overlay | 21:30:47 |
| rymate1234 | only for the launcher | 21:32:18 |
| intensedarkness | And the notification bar looks transparent too | 21:32:20 |
| rymate1234 | apparently | 21:32:20 |
| intensedarkness | Shiittt | 21:32:20 |
| intensedarkness | Ffs | 21:32:24 |
| rymate1234 | lel | 21:32:36 |
| rymate1234 | seriously | 21:32:43 |
| rymate1234 | what's the difference between buttons on a screen, and physical buttons that take up the exact same space | 21:33:05 |
| intensedarkness | Ok, you seriously didn't get what I was saying lol | 21:34:29 |
| rymate1234 | what were you getting at then | 21:34:50 |
| intensedarkness | What phone do you have? | 21:34:56 |
| rymate1234 | zte crescent | 21:35:28 |
| rymate1234 | this glorious fucker http://www.gsmarena.com/orange_san_francisco_ii-4330.php | 21:35:41 |
| intensedarkness | Ffs upgrade dudee | 21:36:45 |
| intensedarkness | Lol | 21:36:47 |
| rymate1234 | waiting until christmas | 21:37:18 |
| Alkalinorap | Uživatel Alkalinorap [~Alkalino@110.26.76.188.dynamic.jazztel.es] vstoupil do místnosti. | 21:37:20 |
| rymate1234 | |
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| intensedarkness | Anyway I was saying, with the N4, imagine the whole of the LCD was used actually as a screen. To display shit. Like a webpage. And the bottom bezel was used for capacitive buttons | 21:38:23 |
| rymate1234 | then you have a non standard aspect ratio | 21:38:42 |
| intensedarkness | Omg | 21:38:49 |
| intensedarkness | No | 21:38:51 |
| intensedarkness | No | 21:38:53 |
| intensedarkness | No | 21:38:54 |
| intensedarkness | Lol | 21:38:59 |
| intensedarkness | Have you seen the galaxy s4 | 21:39:08 |
| rymate1234 | yes | 21:39:19 |
| rymate1234 | it's 1080p | 21:39:22 |
| intensedarkness | Look at how the bottom of the screen, doesn't have buttons in a bar | 21:39:37 |
| intensedarkness | In a navigation bar | 21:39:41 |
| rymate1234 | i know what a phone with physical buttons looks like | 21:40:05 |
| intensedarkness | Instead, there's buttons as capacitive buttons | 21:40:25 |
| intensedarkness | Under the screen | 21:40:29 |
| rymate1234 | yes | 21:40:32 |
| rymate1234 | and? | 21:40:34 |
| rymate1234 | there's also a physical menu button, which is evil | 21:40:58 |
| intensedarkness | Agreed. | 21:41:09 |
| intensedarkness | Imagine that was also capacitive | 21:41:21 |
| rymate1234 | the whole point of having software keys is so you can change what the keys do | 21:41:22 |
| intensedarkness | But | 21:41:36 |
| intensedarkness | You | 21:41:37 |
| intensedarkness | Cant | 21:41:38 |
| intensedarkness | On N4 | 21:41:41 |
| intensedarkness | Stock | 21:41:43 |
| intensedarkness | So what is the advantage | 21:42:04 |
| intensedarkness | Nothing really | 21:42:04 |
| intensedarkness | Imo | 21:42:04 |
| rymate1234 | but it does change | 21:42:09 |
| rymate1234 | in stock | 21:42:12 |
| intensedarkness | Well yeah I mean | 21:42:29 |
| intensedarkness | Okay fine lol | 21:42:34 |
| rymate1234 | in apps with no overflow menu that need a menu button, a small menu button appears in the software keys bar | 21:42:43 |
| intensedarkness | It does, but the point is | 21:42:43 |
| intensedarkness | Do you see how the s4 uses all 5 inches | 21:43:06 |
| intensedarkness | ? | 21:43:14 |
| rymate1234 | yes | 21:43:16 |
| intensedarkness | That's why I think the n4 | 21:43:28 |
| intensedarkness | Should have | 21:43:30 |
| intensedarkness | Buttons under the LCD | 21:43:42 |
| intensedarkness | So you can use the entire screen | 21:43:50 |
| rymate1234 | and then you have this non standard 1280x768 resolution | 21:44:16 |
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| rymate1234 | what do you do with the 48 pixels left over? | 21:45:18 |
| intensedarkness | Loll | 21:45:51 |
| intensedarkness | Use it | 21:45:56 |
| intensedarkness | For screen space | 21:46:01 |
| rymate1234 | but then 1280x720 videos have black bars at either side of the video | 21:46:30 |
| intensedarkness | On my n4 when I watch 720 videos | 21:47:11 |
| intensedarkness | On YouTube | 21:47:15 |
| intensedarkness | The navigation bar autohides | 21:47:30 |
| intensedarkness | And the video is full screen with no bars | 21:47:46 |
| rymate1234 | I thought the action bar just kinda went dark | 21:48:42 |
| cybojenix | anyone recognise a name |
21:54:19 |
| cybojenix | https://plus.google.com/u/0/s/%23omnirom | 21:54:19 |
| tcpaulh | omnirom! | 21:56:52 |
| rymate1234 | more roms ~~~~~ | 21:57:03 |
| Dazzozo | |
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| tcpaulh | Are you involved in this Daz? | 21:57:52 |
| Dazzozo | i was aware of it | 21:57:56 |
| tcpaulh | This was the thing right? | 21:58:07 |
| Dazzozo | yes | 21:58:10 |
| tcpaulh | Good thing |
21:58:35 |
| rymate1234 | is this the aosp rom? | 21:59:14 |
| Dazzozo | nah | 22:00:45 |
| rymate1234 | oh | 22:00:53 |
| cybojenix | Dazzozo, lalit told you? | 22:06:41 |
| Dazzozo | i heard it from a few | 22:07:02 |
| Dazzozo | its not the best kept secret | 22:07:05 |
| cybojenix | dam. I've actually been keeping it a secret :L | 22:07:24 |
| Dazzozo | you're probably the only one | 22:07:33 |
| cybojenix | yep | 22:07:45 |
| Dazzozo | why is tilal6991|away on the team lol | 22:08:03 |
| cybojenix | ah well, the cat's out the bag | 22:08:06 |
| cybojenix | because I pulled him aside and got him invited onto it | 22:08:20 |
| cybojenix | though I didn't know he stayed on it, because he said it wasn't what he's looking for | 22:08:47 |
| cybojenix | he might have helped with bringing in SoC support | 22:08:58 |
| Dazzozo | i wasnt fond of it from the start | 22:09:48 |
| Dazzozo | it just felt very | 22:10:09 |
| Dazzozo | "our turn to be leads now" | 22:10:15 |
| cybojenix | know the features so far? | 22:10:31 |
| Dazzozo | no | 22:11:04 |
| cybojenix | you can't compare it to other roms (based on the features) | 22:11:31 |
| Dazzozo | how so | 22:11:44 |
| cybojenix | once the site is up properly, you'll see | 22:12:11 |
| Dazzozo | and this is the reason | 22:12:16 |
| Dazzozo | i dont like it | 22:12:18 |
| Dazzozo | already | 22:12:19 |
| cybojenix | why | 22:12:27 |
| Dazzozo | people cant talk | 22:12:30 |
| Dazzozo | its like CM | 22:12:35 |
| Dazzozo | people were just "invited" | 22:12:42 |
| Dazzozo | because they were friends | 22:12:44 |
| Dazzozo | in to some private discussion | 22:12:59 |
| Dazzozo | it was just | 22:13:01 |
| Dazzozo | CM #2 | 22:13:05 |
| Dazzozo | "you'll see", this is just CM | 22:13:54 |
| Dazzozo | and it hasnt even gone corporate yet | 22:14:04 |
| Dazzozo | people too busy to make themselves seem important | 22:14:40 |
| Dazzozo | whatever | 22:15:01 |
| Dazzozo | i said this to tilal right at the start | 22:15:18 |
| Dazzozo | maybe that influenced him dropping out, if he did, i dont know | 22:15:32 |
| cybojenix | they were invited based on their work | 22:15:38 |
| cybojenix | well, some of them anyway | 22:15:39 |
| cybojenix | what would you do if some total stranger walked up to you and said "I have an idea, come help" | 22:15:39 |
| Dazzozo | "some of them" | 22:16:00 |
| Dazzozo | lol | 22:16:00 |
| cybojenix | from the start, they've said they want to get the ball rolling. get a baseline set up before taking it public | 22:16:31 |
| cybojenix | then they're going to open everything up | 22:16:42 |
| cybojenix | the core team isn't just a group of friends | 22:16:54 |
| Dazzozo | maybe. | 22:16:54 |
| Dazzozo | but i have my first impressions | 22:17:00 |
| cybojenix | as for the cm thing. tbh there aren't really any other ways to start off | 22:17:12 |
| cybojenix | high end devs will be friends with other high end devs | 22:17:35 |
| Dazzozo | there are | 22:17:38 |
| Dazzozo | i've done this with projects with a bunch of people in the past | 22:17:47 |
| cybojenix | it's what they do next that will define what they are | 22:17:52 |
| Dazzozo | we will see, like i said, first impressions | 22:18:25 |
| cybojenix | yes | 22:18:37 |
| Dazzozo | its just funny that they're inviting frankly, nobodies | 22:19:52 |
| Dazzozo | realistically | 22:20:33 |
| Dazzozo | if tilal is bringing SoC support then its the first time he's done so pretty much | 22:20:48 |
| Dazzozo | maintaining a few devices and merging a kernel is a fucking different thing entirely | 22:21:06 |
| cybojenix | I don't know what he's been doing | 22:21:44 |
| Dazzozo | yet you invited him? |
22:21:55 |
| cybojenix | I had him invited | 22:22:03 |
| cybojenix | there's a difference | 22:22:15 |
| Dazzozo | then the "applications for invitations" didnt go through much scruitiny | 22:22:24 |
| Dazzozo | we're all bottom feeders | 22:22:58 |
| Dazzozo | realistically | 22:23:06 |
| Dazzozo | thats my point, it just smells of "invite your friends" | 22:23:45 |
| Dazzozo | i dont want a repeat of CM, so im worried | 22:25:53 |
| Dazzozo | its easy for people to think "our turn" | 22:26:17 |
| Dazzozo | maybe i have a trust issue, who knows | 22:28:51 |
| Dazzozo | it would explain a lot lately | 22:28:59 |
| Dazzozo | http://www.reddit.com/r/Android/comments/1obc1w/android_gingerbread_ui_gets_exposed_in_the/ | 22:32:40 |
| tcpaulh | Good luck to 'em | 22:43:06 |
| Kra1o5 | bye | 22:45:06 |
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| jordilopez94 | yo | 22:46:38 |
| Dazzozo | yo | 22:48:32 |
| jordilopez94 | as development proceeds? | 22:51:55 |
| Dazzozo | im building right now | 23:05:17 |
| jordilopez94 | nice | 23:05:57 |
| jordilopez94 | I have really wanted to put cm10.2 in my Y300 | 23:06:35 |
| jordilopez94 | I'll have to wait long? |
23:06:51 |
| Dazzozo | yes | 23:07:54 |
| Dazzozo | now you can never be disappointed |
23:07:57 |
| jordilopez94 | NOOOO!!! |
23:08:53 |
| jordilopez94 | I am very excited to try it NOOWWW!! | 23:09:29 |
| Dazzozo | lol | 23:09:42 |
| Dazzozo | I don't even have a build available that I could give people | 23:10:06 |
| Dazzozo | im waiting for one | 23:10:15 |
| jordilopez94 | ok | 23:12:21 |
| jordilopez94 | then wait | 23:12:35 |
| Dazzozo | i could release builds if people really really really want | 23:15:30 |
| Dazzozo | but there's no way you're gonna use these things as daily | 23:15:46 |
| Dazzozo | so it doesnt seem like there's a point to me | 23:16:00 |
| Dazzozo | but if people want, sure | 23:16:04 |
| rymate1234 | Dazzozo, just copy and paste the original cm9 post from the crescent | 23:16:14 |
| Dazzozo | nah i have a new format | 23:16:27 |
| jordilopez94_ | Uživatel jordilopez94_ [~jordilope@77.224.208.20] vstoupil do místnosti. | 23:16:27 |
| Dazzozo | all the G300 threads are different lol | 23:16:30 |
| rymate1234 | no | 23:16:36 |
| rymate1234 | the one before your build | 23:16:40 |
| rymate1234 | with allllllll the bugds | 23:16:45 |
| rymate1234 | *bugs | 23:16:47 |
| jordilopez94_ | https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=2ksOJl0PDDg | 23:17:11 |
| rymate1234 | lel | 23:17:13 |
| rymate1234 | /me out | 23:17:14 |
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| jordilopez94_ | bye | 23:29:03 |
| jordilopez94_ | GN | 23:29:09 |
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