Generated: 27.04.2025 7:43:35. Messages: 1333
Expected startup is about 10.2.2014
Dazzozo | oh shit i remember this | 00:00:21 |
Dazzozo | http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ttcboE1GrNg | 00:00:22 |
Dazzozo | fuck | 00:00:22 |
SilvesterBot | Starting build #169 for job android | 00:00:37 |
tcpaulh | @Dazzozo: Could you have a look at maps/navigation next time you're out in the (gloriously well rendered) outside world? | 00:15:38 |
tcpaulh | There's bouncy up and down thing | 00:16:07 |
tcpaulh | And the skipped frame thing (100s of skipped frames during nav) | 00:16:42 |
tcpaulh | Aosp and cm last time I checked | 00:17:14 |
Dazzozo | O_O maps works fine with an overlay on | 00:18:17 |
Dazzozo | wat a weird bug | 00:18:26 |
tcpaulh | Overlay? | 00:18:38 |
Dazzozo | ye, apps can now draw over other apps | 00:18:54 |
Dazzozo | action launcher 2.0 has a feature which uses it | 00:19:07 |
Dazzozo | and i have it enabled and maps is working fine underneath | 00:19:21 |
Dazzozo | ooooh | 00:19:47 |
Dazzozo | but if i use the overlay | 00:19:49 |
Dazzozo | it totally shits itself | 00:19:53 |
tcpaulh | It's an odd one | 00:20:44 |
Dazzozo | wow | 00:21:45 |
Dazzozo | now it doesnt crash | 00:21:47 |
Dazzozo | overlay opens and closes fine | 00:21:51 |
Dazzozo | but when i return to maps | 00:21:54 |
Dazzozo | there's like | 00:21:57 |
Dazzozo | the same few tiles repeated over the scree | 00:22:08 |
Dazzozo | n | 00:22:08 |
Dazzozo | and if i move around it refreshes all | 00:22:15 |
Dazzozo | OH GOD | 00:22:45 |
Dazzozo | and now | 00:22:48 |
Dazzozo | if i drag the maps menu open | 00:22:52 |
Dazzozo | the repeated tiles are OVER the menu | 00:22:58 |
Dazzozo | .... | 00:23:38 |
tcpaulh | I've seen some weird stuff in maps but perhaps not what you're seeing | 00:23:45 |
Dazzozo | its over the notification drawer too | 00:23:46 |
tcpaulh | If I shake the phone the feedback toast is sometimes completely scrambled | 00:24:23 |
Dazzozo | i want it to crash | 00:24:57 |
Dazzozo | pls crash | 00:24:58 |
tcpaulh | Have had two unexplained reboots while navigating in the last week | 00:25:59 |
Dazzozo | and now its working fine | 00:26:18 |
Dazzozo | it doesnt help that its so random | 00:26:22 |
tcpaulh | Yep it works fine here too occasionally. I reboot and hope that fixes it. Sometimes it does | 00:27:06 |
tcpaulh | For a while | 00:27:17 |
tcpaulh | Dave you seen the whole screen bouncing up and down vertically? | 00:28:14 |
tcpaulh | Have | 00:28:19 |
tcpaulh | Or screen freezing during nav for 100s of frames? | 00:29:07 |
Dazzozo | nope | 00:29:26 |
tcpaulh | While audio keeps good time | 00:29:29 |
tcpaulh | Hilarious in some ways | 00:29:42 |
tcpaulh | Not in others lol | 00:30:26 |
Dazzozo | and now i cant get it to bug at all | 00:30:58 |
tcpaulh | Maybe the stuff I get is dependent on moving | 00:31:26 |
Dazzozo | wow it just won't bug now | 00:31:46 |
Dazzozo | if it does, its temporarily as it destroys the overlay | 00:32:02 |
SilvesterBot | Project android build #169: SUCCESS in 32 min: http://jenkins.thebronasium.com/job/android/169/ | 00:32:45 |
Dazzozo | http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=2368972 | 00:33:53 |
Dazzozo | quite widespread on legacy shite | 00:33:59 |
Dazzozo | thats quite a spread of devices holy shit | 00:34:37 |
Dazzozo | https://github.com/M66B/cm-xtended/issues/172 | 00:35:51 |
Uživatel „tcpaulh“ opustil místnost (Quit: Ping timeout: 246 seconds). | 00:35:52 | |
tcpaulh | Uživatel tcpaulh [~tcpaulh@3.164.125.91.dyn.plus.net] vstoupil do místnosti. | 00:36:26 |
ChanServ | Uživatel „ChanServ“ nastavil režim (tcpaulh +v). | 00:36:26 |
Dazzozo | yeah its similar to the issue that used to be in chrome for a while | 00:37:05 |
Dazzozo | "dancing maps" is a nice way to describe it | 00:37:36 |
tcpaulh | Yes I guess so | 00:42:39 |
Dazzozo | looks like no one has solved it | 00:43:03 |
Dazzozo | i wanna see what happens on the Y300 | 00:43:34 |
tcpaulh | You've got to see it next time you're traveling somewhere | 00:43:59 |
Dazzozo | if it doesnt happen it would at least confirm our EGL is fine | 00:44:04 |
tcpaulh | https://docs.google.com/file/d/0By9XAHKSPMp9SFFiVlVsVm4zbU0/edit?usp=sharing | 00:44:41 |
tcpaulh | That was the best log I could get the other day | 00:44:58 |
tcpaulh | Fwiw | 00:45:13 |
tcpaulh | You can see the frame skips. Not sure what else | 00:47:00 |
Dazzozo | yep | 00:49:27 |
Dazzozo | but proprietary code | 00:49:29 |
Dazzozo | so theres no further visibility | 00:49:33 |
Dazzozo | i'll try it on the Y300 but I think this is for Google to fix | 00:49:59 |
Dazzozo | like the dancing chrome bug | 00:50:06 |
Dazzozo | im surprised they fixed that tbh | 00:50:58 |
tcpaulh | It's been happening for a while but hasn't always. Oh well if you see anything | 00:56:51 |
tcpaulh | http://productforums.google.com/forum/m/#!categories/maps/mobile-android | 01:07:32 |
tcpaulh | I read the first 150 topic titles. Didn't see anything that rang a bell | 01:08:23 |
tcpaulh | Nope, can't see anyone else reporting it. Arse biscuits | 01:14:11 |
Uživatel „fefifofum“ opustil místnost (Quit: Bye). | 03:42:55 | |
Uživatel „jordilopez94“ opustil místnost (Quit: Ping timeout: 260 seconds). | 12:10:02 | |
Dazzozo | "Without any warning" about that OTA | 12:13:40 |
Dazzozo | lol | 12:13:41 |
Dazzozo | as opposed to those warnings Google normally gives? | 12:13:54 |
Dazzozo | http://www.phoronix.com/scan.php?page=news_item&px=MTQ3NzA | 12:17:20 |
Dazzozo | big. | 12:17:21 |
rymate1234 | #holoyolo | 12:20:35 |
jordilopez94 | Uživatel jordilopez94 [~jordilope@84.126.148.85.dyn.user.ono.com] vstoupil do místnosti. | 12:22:03 |
Dazzozo | >Origin | 12:22:58 |
Dazzozo | le le le le le le le le le | 12:23:03 |
djuroue | hi Daz, how are you ![]() |
12:23:12 |
Dazzozo | good | 12:23:18 |
djuroue | what is this shit with nvidia linux drivers ?! | 12:23:38 |
djuroue | some major update ha ?! | 12:23:44 |
Dazzozo | yeah | 12:23:56 |
djuroue | man, this last build of cm10 works perfectly | 12:26:12 |
Uživatel „mnupea“ opustil místnost (Quit: Page closed). | 12:29:09 | |
lakyljuk | damn, I was trying to flash offical 952 firmware with dload folder and +- volume start, it unpacks, installs, but hangs at 98% and does nothing, whould could I try else? Thanks very much. | 12:34:49 |
Dazzozo | I used to have hangs around 60-70% | 12:35:22 |
Dazzozo | dunno what causes them, i kept pissing around with the oeminfo and eventually it worked | 12:35:46 |
Dazzozo | Y300 is here | 12:42:09 |
djuroue | I always had them at 30% | 12:42:12 |
tcpaulh | Yay | 12:42:16 |
djuroue | Dazzozo good luck with new kernel ![]() |
12:42:19 |
tcpaulh | Inb4 doa | 12:42:47 |
modacouserr | nice ![]() |
12:43:54 |
modacouserr | that memory patch makes such a difference | 12:44:07 |
djuroue | is Y300 - G510 ?! | 12:44:09 |
lakyljuk | djuroue: and how you fixed it? | 12:44:24 |
Dazzozo | >battery goes upside down | 12:44:28 |
Dazzozo | quality huawei | 12:44:38 |
modacouserr | ![]() |
12:44:42 |
djuroue | Dazzozo me too when i bought G300... It needs few days ![]() |
12:44:55 |
djuroue | lakyljuk i had to reset imei to zero | 12:45:08 |
djuroue | and then flashing completes. | 12:45:18 |
tcpaulh | Without cwm? | 12:45:21 |
tcpaulh | I forget the methods | 12:45:36 |
Dazzozo | bam booting | 12:45:44 |
Dazzozo | o no sim card | 12:45:51 |
djuroue | hmm, can that imei hack be used without booting a system | 12:46:08 |
djuroue | will pc see adb device in cwm for example !? | 12:46:16 |
djuroue | i forgot, didnt use imei hack for a long time .. | 12:46:39 |
tcpaulh | Can't be bothered to check forum while on phone. Easy to find out | 12:46:52 |
Dazzozo | is the stock rom even booting? i cant tell | 12:47:23 |
Dazzozo | yay | 12:48:09 |
Dazzozo | that took forever | 12:48:17 |
djuroue | first boot ![]() |
12:48:22 |
Dazzozo | longer than a g300 first boot | 12:48:29 |
Dazzozo | lol | 12:48:31 |
djuroue | G300 is nicer phone, nicer built ... if only it had 1 gigs of ram ... | 12:49:03 |
djuroue | but reality is different ![]() |
12:49:05 |
tcpaulh | http://www.modaco.com/topic/360716-oeminfo-hack-tool-v10-install-any-updateapp-20032013/ | 12:49:06 |
Dazzozo | dual core makes a pretty massive difference | 12:49:16 |
tcpaulh | I bet | 12:49:26 |
lakyljuk | btw nothing is booting, just pink screen. ok, now put sim out and try again with dload. | 12:49:30 |
cybojenix | Uživatel „cybojenix“ je nyní znám jako cybojenix-away. | 12:49:33 |
djuroue | tcpaulh ... he cannot boot system | 12:50:15 |
djuroue | will he still be able to use hack if he just plugged in phone ?! | 12:50:34 |
djuroue | without booting system ?! | 12:50:42 |
Dazzozo | huawei definitely upped their game jesus | 12:51:38 |
tcpaulh | Yes I think so. Either from pink screen or bootloader | 12:51:48 |
djuroue | yes | 12:52:13 |
cybojenix-away | Uživatel „cybojenix-away“ je nyní znám jako cybojenix. | 12:52:17 |
djuroue | hmm | 12:52:21 |
djuroue | hack uses adb | 12:52:30 |
Dazzozo | wow really nice phone | 12:52:34 |
djuroue | can adb be used in bootloader status | 12:52:35 |
djuroue | Dazzozo yeah, my friend has it | 12:52:48 |
djuroue | but stock rom is crap | 12:52:52 |
djuroue | i flashed him CM10.1 | 12:52:57 |
djuroue | it ran like hell | 12:53:02 |
Dazzozo | my mac address is ftw | 12:53:33 |
djuroue | and recently i hold ZTE blade G... In running processes, free ram was 2,9 MB ![]() |
12:53:40 |
lakyljuk | so, you are right, I cannot use imei hack, since adb is not available. nwm, I just put sim out and dload update run till the very and and phone rebooted and is formating system now so I guess it will be ok | 12:55:03 |
Uživatel „jordilopez94“ opustil místnost (Quit: Saliendo). | 12:57:59 | |
Dazzozo | not even 4.1.2 huawei | 13:00:20 |
Dazzozo | uwotuwot | 13:00:22 |
Dazzozo | 4.1.1 | 13:00:28 |
Dazzozo | lameeeeeeeeeee | 13:00:30 |
Uživatel „tcpaulh“ opustil místnost (Quit: Ping timeout: 248 seconds). | 13:02:46 | |
Uživatel „Eloimuns“ opustil místnost (Quit: Ping timeout: 240 seconds). | 13:03:16 | |
JillBot | Uživatel JillBot [~JillBot@192.30.252.55] vstoupil do místnosti. | 13:03:36 |
JillBot | [GetCM] Dazzozo pushed 1 new commit to master: http://git.io/4-_8tQ | 13:03:36 |
JillBot | GetCM/master 70a84bd Daz Jones: devicemap: add Huawei Ascend Y300 (u8833) | 13:03:36 |
~JillBot | Uživatel „JillBot“ opustil místnost (Part). | 13:03:36 |
djuroue | ![]() |
13:06:24 |
Dazzozo | its funny, they updated one icon next to an icon that they didnt update | 13:10:26 |
Dazzozo | and as someone who always runs AOSP based stuff i can tell instantly | 13:10:47 |
Dazzozo | its barely different | 13:11:06 |
Dazzozo | just a tiny bit lighter | 13:11:11 |
djuroue | so your work will not be that hard ?! ![]() |
13:16:27 |
Dazzozo | lol | 13:16:53 |
rymate1234 | hi | 13:17:16 |
Dazzozo | yo | 13:17:20 |
Uživatel „lakyljuk“ opustil místnost (Quit). | 13:20:47 | |
intensedarkness | Uživatel intensedarkness [~intenseda@80.169.55.138] vstoupil do místnosti. | 13:23:48 |
djuroue | must go | 13:26:06 |
djuroue | see ya tonite ![]() |
13:26:10 |
Dazzozo | cya | 13:26:43 |
Uživatel „djuroue“ opustil místnost (Quit). | 13:27:05 | |
modacouserr | just tried battlefield 4 /0/ awesome | 13:27:06 |
Dazzozo | im about to | 13:27:29 |
Dazzozo | oh boy i cant wait for "huawei tune" to wake me up in the morning | 13:27:36 |
modacouserr | i finally found an app that can actually wake me up with a single alarm lol | 13:28:19 |
modacouserr | oh uau, time to eat | 13:28:34 |
modacouserr | brb | 13:28:35 |
intensedarkness | Dazzozo: got it yet?!? | 13:29:40 |
Dazzozo | yes | 13:29:41 |
intensedarkness | Ohhhhhh shheeeeeett | 13:29:49 |
intensedarkness | What do you reckon | 13:30:09 |
intensedarkness | ? | 13:30:13 |
Dazzozo | i like how it has a slightly warm screen | 13:31:00 |
Dazzozo | it reminds me of N4 default gamma | 13:31:13 |
Dazzozo | :3c | 13:31:18 |
Dazzozo | but yeah, dual core is a big leap | 13:31:28 |
intensedarkness | Lol | 13:31:53 |
intensedarkness | Warm screen? | 13:32:00 |
intensedarkness | Oh colours wise | 13:32:05 |
intensedarkness | Not temperature | 13:32:19 |
intensedarkness | What do you think of performance | 13:33:45 |
intensedarkness | Noticeable lag right | 13:34:01 |
intensedarkness | Has a very Samsung esque feel to it | 13:34:18 |
Dazzozo | well im on the stock rom so idk | 13:35:41 |
intensedarkness | That's what I'm talking about | 13:37:53 |
intensedarkness | Laggg | 13:38:00 |
intensedarkness | It's not as bloated as expected though right | 13:39:23 |
intensedarkness | ? | 13:39:34 |
intensedarkness | Came unlocked? | 13:39:45 |
Dazzozo | yup | 13:40:20 |
Dazzozo | dunno about bootloader | 13:40:24 |
Dazzozo | locked, and adb reboot bootloader works | 13:44:50 |
Dazzozo | lold | 13:44:52 |
Dazzozo | I already sent a form request | 13:45:24 |
Dazzozo | I should email too | 13:45:25 |
Dazzozo | haha the stock rom has the adb root bug | 13:46:28 |
Dazzozo | amazing | 13:46:33 |
intensedarkness | Lol | 13:49:53 |
intensedarkness | Definitely send the email saying | 13:49:59 |
intensedarkness | 'urgent' | 13:50:06 |
intensedarkness | And 'I filled in the form a while back, but no response' | 13:51:08 |
Dazzozo | wow I LIKE their torch app | 13:51:21 |
Dazzozo | omg. | 13:51:25 |
intensedarkness | Why | 13:51:29 |
Dazzozo | compared to the CM one | 13:51:35 |
Dazzozo | wow | 13:51:35 |
Dazzozo | the CM one is ugly as fuck | 13:51:41 |
intensedarkness | Mmm hmmm | 13:51:50 |
intensedarkness | HUAWEI. | 13:52:07 |
Dazzozo | they should put that in the play store | 13:52:17 |
Dazzozo | its actually good | 13:52:20 |
intensedarkness | We can make your phone shite | 13:52:25 |
intensedarkness | But at least we will give you a torch app that's decent | 13:52:46 |
intensedarkness | Because at the end of the day when it comes down to it, that why people buy phones | 13:53:14 |
Dazzozo | lol | 13:53:20 |
Dazzozo | this thing is charging like ass off USB | 13:53:34 |
Dazzozo | oh. | 13:53:50 |
Dazzozo | oh no. | 13:53:51 |
intensedarkness | The stock charger is only like 500mah | 13:53:54 |
Dazzozo | the home button | 13:53:56 |
Dazzozo | and the app drawer button in the launcher | 13:54:02 |
Dazzozo | im using nova | 13:54:03 |
Dazzozo | dont line up | 13:54:03 |
Dazzozo | but i cant figure out why | 13:54:09 |
Dazzozo | the screen seems central and the buttons are central | 13:54:18 |
intensedarkness | How many icons in the Nova tray | 13:54:25 |
Dazzozo | 5 | 13:54:36 |
intensedarkness | Home many trays | 13:54:55 |
intensedarkness | Try setting it to 1 | 13:55:05 |
intensedarkness | Docks | 13:55:14 |
Alkalinorap | Uživatel Alkalinorap [~Alkalino@110.26.76.188.dynamic.jazztel.es] vstoupil do místnosti. | 13:55:34 |
Dazzozo | no difference | 13:56:02 |
Dazzozo | i guess i can try hacking it with margins | 13:56:12 |
intensedarkness | Bullocks | 13:56:13 |
intensedarkness | Bollocks* | 13:56:22 |
intensedarkness | Lol | 13:56:23 |
intensedarkness | Sandra Bullocks | 13:56:29 |
Dazzozo | lol | 13:56:32 |
intensedarkness | Is the stock performance as expected? | 13:57:24 |
Dazzozo | i'd say so | 13:57:35 |
intensedarkness | Hmm | 13:57:39 |
intensedarkness | I thought it was a tad slow for a dual core | 13:57:48 |
intensedarkness | But then again | 13:57:53 |
Dazzozo | its not as slow as you've been describing for me | 13:58:09 |
intensedarkness | Not much multithreading going on at homr | 13:58:11 |
Dazzozo | i can only get it to lag when im doing google play updates | 13:58:13 |
intensedarkness | Well | 13:58:54 |
intensedarkness | Fill your homescreen with widgets | 13:59:17 |
intensedarkness | Which need to autoupdate | 13:59:26 |
intensedarkness | And then it's slower | 13:59:48 |
intensedarkness | Lol | 13:59:50 |
intensedarkness | Excellent, scientific description there | 14:00:03 |
Dazzozo | lol | 14:00:11 |
intensedarkness | Of how to make it slower | 14:00:12 |
SilvesterBot | Starting build #170 for job android | 14:00:37 |
intensedarkness | It could do with a mild overclock | 14:01:21 |
cybojenix | Uživatel „cybojenix“ je nyní znám jako cybojenix-away. | 14:01:23 |
Dazzozo | the soft key lights dont come on half the time lol | 14:01:23 |
Dazzozo | 10/10 framework configuration | 14:01:43 |
intensedarkness | When you open up maps or something, do you notice a lag? | 14:02:04 |
Dazzozo | i havent even got maps installed | 14:02:20 |
Dazzozo | hang on | 14:02:22 |
Dazzozo | nope | 14:02:49 |
Dazzozo | also wow the gesture keyboard is much faster | 14:03:04 |
intensedarkness | Hmm | 14:03:38 |
Dazzozo | im gonna try and break the display | 14:03:42 |
intensedarkness | Maybe I thought it was arse because I got it after my N4 | 14:03:51 |
intensedarkness | And in comparison... | 14:04:02 |
intensedarkness | Obviously | 14:04:07 |
Dazzozo | yeah | 14:04:11 |
Dazzozo | but i got rid of my N4 | 14:04:15 |
Dazzozo | and was back to the G300 for a while | 14:04:19 |
Dazzozo | so the Y300 feels like | 14:04:21 |
Dazzozo | a refreshing return to something closer to the N4 | 14:04:29 |
Dazzozo | lol | 14:04:29 |
intensedarkness | Lol | 14:04:38 |
intensedarkness | Indeed | 14:04:38 |
intensedarkness | Overall, the y300 just needed 1.2ghz clock and 1gb ram | 14:05:04 |
intensedarkness | At a similar price | 14:05:13 |
intensedarkness | And with you on board it wouldve taken off like crazy | 14:05:39 |
intensedarkness | Fuking arse prod manufacturers just need to realise that they need to sell these devices sim free at a cheap cost | 14:06:27 |
Dazzozo | I don't think I'm that influential lol | 14:06:39 |
intensedarkness | Wellll UT depends | 14:06:58 |
intensedarkness | It* | 14:07:00 |
Dazzozo | also i managed to get graphical corruption on the stock rom | 14:07:12 |
Dazzozo | qualityyyyyyyyyyyyy | 14:07:12 |
intensedarkness | Ohhhhh btw try iplayer | 14:07:22 |
intensedarkness | That ran like arse too | 14:07:34 |
intensedarkness | And try tvcatchup | 14:07:39 |
intensedarkness | <3 tvcatchup | 14:08:15 |
Dazzozo | BBC Media Player *yawn* | 14:09:33 |
Dazzozo | iplayer works perfectly | 14:10:33 |
Dazzozo | and so dos tvcatchup | 14:11:39 |
Dazzozo | *does | 14:11:41 |
Dazzozo | mobile@huawei.com right? | 14:13:49 |
Dazzozo | im gonna send an email now, may as well | 14:13:53 |
adfad666 | wow, the donations came in so quick? | 14:14:37 |
adfad666 | or did you get another big donation? | 14:15:18 |
Dazzozo | we got another £20 from the same guy | 14:15:37 |
Dazzozo | and that gg'd it | 14:15:41 |
adfad666 | naise | 14:15:56 |
Dazzozo | haha even the stock rom doesnt have battery stats | 14:16:24 |
Dazzozo | christ huawei | 14:16:29 |
fefifofum | Uživatel fefifofum [~fefifofum@84.123.0.34.dyn.user.ono.com] vstoupil do místnosti. | 14:17:13 |
adfad666 | so dual core 7x27a ain't so bad? | 14:17:14 |
ChanServ | Uživatel „ChanServ“ nastavil režim (fefifofum +v). | 14:17:21 |
fefifofum | hi | 14:17:25 |
Dazzozo | adfad666: ye | 14:18:03 |
Dazzozo | its adreno203 too i think | 14:18:06 |
adfad666 | yeah i believe so | 14:18:15 |
Dazzozo | but practically the same | 14:18:19 |
intensedarkness | Yeah | 14:22:37 |
intensedarkness | Dazzozo: that's the right email | 14:22:44 |
intensedarkness | Dear Sir/Madam | 14:22:47 |
intensedarkness | Please may I request the bootloader unlock code for my Huawei Ascend G300? | 14:22:48 |
intensedarkness | 14:22:48 | |
intensedarkness | I filled in the form on the following site many weeks ago but have still not heard anything... | 14:22:48 |
intensedarkness | reUnlock">http://www.huaweidevice.com/worldwide/servicePolicy.do?method![]() |
14:22:48 |
intensedarkness | 14:22:48 | |
intensedarkness | Here are the details you require: | 14:22:48 |
intensedarkness | Serial Number: F8L7NB1232200637 | 14:22:48 |
intensedarkness | Product ID: 22451572 | 14:22:49 |
intensedarkness | IMEI: 861229010163668 | 14:22:50 |
intensedarkness | Baseband: 2030 | 14:22:51 |
intensedarkness | 14:22:51 | |
intensedarkness | I urgently need the bootloader code, please could you send me the code directly, as it has been many weeks since I filled in the form online and I still have not heard anything. | 14:22:52 |
intensedarkness | Kind regards | 14:23:25 |
Dazzozo | im just gonna copy pasta my G300 one | 14:23:43 |
Dazzozo | also gj on making all your device info public | 14:23:54 |
adfad666 | STEALZ | 14:24:08 |
fefifofum | lol | 14:24:08 |
adfad666 | /me calls police to report stolen phone | 14:24:37 |
intensedarkness | They're not actually my device anymore | 14:26:02 |
intensedarkness | Its* | 14:26:10 |
intensedarkness | Looooll | 14:26:10 |
intensedarkness | And selling it on eBay soon | 14:26:23 |
intensedarkness | It's currently in the USA | 14:26:30 |
Dazzozo | so you went to the effort of getting me a device | 14:26:57 |
Dazzozo | when you were gonna get rid of your own? | 14:27:13 |
Dazzozo | wat | 14:27:13 |
intensedarkness | G300 above mate | 14:27:30 |
Dazzozo | oh | 14:27:45 |
Dazzozo | fuck | 14:27:48 |
Dazzozo | retarded nvm | 14:27:52 |
intensedarkness | But also, yeah I don't use the Y300 much, mostly used by someone else in the household | 14:28:19 |
intensedarkness | So I don't have much to gain by organising the fundraiser | 14:28:42 |
intensedarkness | But this isn't about me | 14:28:49 |
intensedarkness | It's about doing something for you | 14:29:05 |
intensedarkness | And for the community | 14:29:09 |
intensedarkness | The Y300 was just a very good candidate given the price/spec ratio | 14:29:28 |
intensedarkness | Yeah the G300 being sold on ebay anyway, when it gets back from the US in a couple of months | 14:30:24 |
Dazzozo | boom, sent | 14:30:45 |
Dazzozo | no shitting on me if i dont get a code now | 14:31:01 |
Dazzozo | they hate me tbh | 14:31:19 |
intensedarkness | Youre welcome btw | 14:31:31 |
intensedarkness | You BUMDER | 14:31:37 |
Dazzozo | lol | 14:31:47 |
intensedarkness | ![]() |
14:31:48 |
adfad666 | what did you put | 14:32:22 |
intensedarkness | ? | 14:32:28 |
adfad666 | I can haz hack kodes? | 14:32:28 |
Dazzozo | i wasnt gonna lie, i said i had issues with the form when requesting for other devices in the past | 14:32:44 |
Dazzozo | so i thought it would be best to email too | 14:32:48 |
intensedarkness | Ohhhh | 14:33:04 |
intensedarkness | Mistake | 14:33:10 |
intensedarkness | I tried that | 14:33:15 |
Dazzozo | well im not going to lie | 14:33:34 |
Dazzozo | they can easily check, i'll just go through the motions | 14:33:45 |
Dazzozo | if i dont get anything then i'll tell them to fucking give me it | 14:33:52 |
Dazzozo | nbd | 14:34:03 |
intensedarkness | Yeah | 14:34:58 |
intensedarkness | Well unofficial unlock will do temporarily | 14:35:19 |
SilvesterBot | Project android build #170: SUCCESS in 34 min: http://jenkins.thebronasium.com/job/android/170/ | 14:35:27 |
intensedarkness | Dazzozo: anyway let me know when there is a stable 4.4 for the Y300 anyway. | 14:35:57 |
Dazzozo | lol. | 14:36:05 |
Dazzozo | 1 step at a time | 14:36:11 |
Dazzozo | how does the unofficial unlock work? same as g300? | 14:41:29 |
intensedarkness | Can't remember | 14:45:08 |
intensedarkness | I haven't bothererd much | 14:45:20 |
intensedarkness | Just been enjoying the n4 | 14:45:27 |
intensedarkness | Loaned out the g300 | 14:45:41 |
intensedarkness | And the y300 is the primary phone of another person in the family | 14:46:03 |
intensedarkness | So look it up | 14:46:21 |
intensedarkness | Lol | 14:46:31 |
intensedarkness | Post in a forum | 14:46:38 |
intensedarkness | For help | 14:46:41 |
intensedarkness | ![]() |
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Alkalinorap | Dazzozo, unofficial unlock doesn't work in the Y300 | 14:55:10 |
Dazzozo | no one has found one? | 14:55:25 |
Dazzozo | intensedarkness you liar | 14:55:28 |
Alkalinorap | no | 14:55:30 |
Alkalinorap | you can't root without recovery | 14:55:41 |
Dazzozo | "can't" | 14:55:55 |
Dazzozo | you just watch me | 14:55:58 |
Dazzozo | challenge accepted etc | 14:56:02 |
intensedarkness | Dazzozo: I may have got confused with the g30p | 14:56:36 |
Alkalinorap | the only possible method is flashing a chinese kernel to deface security in the kernel and root with the unlock root 3.1 | 14:56:37 |
intensedarkness | G300 | 14:56:42 |
intensedarkness | Woops | 14:56:46 |
Alkalinorap | Dazzozo, I recommend you do this to backup OEM-INFO Locked | 14:57:14 |
Alkalinorap | later flash an international update.app and unlock bootloader oficially | 14:57:30 |
Dazzozo | what partition is oeminfo on Y300? | 14:57:35 |
Alkalinorap | 5 | 14:57:38 |
Alkalinorap | same as g300 | 14:57:42 |
Dazzozo | o | 14:57:47 |
Alkalinorap | but modems no | 14:57:50 |
Alkalinorap | one "modem" is oemsbl I think | 14:58:04 |
Dazzozo | modem firmware isnt important | 14:58:08 |
Alkalinorap | http://www.htcmania.com/showthread.php?t=568169 Dazzozo | 14:58:25 |
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Dazzozo | so | 15:04:31 |
Dazzozo | im not gonna fuck myself over by managing to root now? | 15:04:35 |
Dazzozo | because i think im a button press away | 15:04:42 |
rymate1234 | Dazzozo, try it | 15:05:30 |
rymate1234 | lmao | 15:05:33 |
Alkalinorap | to root? | 15:05:36 |
Dazzozo | yeah | 15:05:41 |
Dazzozo | i think i can root without unlocking the bootloader | 15:05:49 |
Alkalinorap | I can provide you one way to root without unlock bootloader | 15:05:58 |
Alkalinorap | I did | 15:05:59 |
Alkalinorap | and works | 15:06:01 |
Dazzozo | didnt you just say it was impossible? | 15:06:10 |
Dazzozo | <Alkalinorap> you can't root without recovery | 15:06:12 |
Alkalinorap | other users brick the phone | 15:06:16 |
Alkalinorap | you can't root without recovery safely | 15:06:36 |
Dazzozo | safely? | 15:06:41 |
Alkalinorap | I meant | 15:06:45 |
Alkalinorap | hehe | 15:06:46 |
Alkalinorap | I will explain me: | 15:07:11 |
Alkalinorap | you can root with a chinese kernel and unlockroot 3.1 before unlock the bootloader | 15:07:42 |
Alkalinorap | this kernel is in UPDATE.APP | 15:07:58 |
Dazzozo | why do you need a chinese kernel? | 15:08:03 |
Alkalinorap | because it disable the kernel security to root with adb | 15:08:23 |
Dazzozo | o_o | 15:08:43 |
Alkalinorap | I mean: with this UPDATE.APP you can do the same as G300 in ICS | 15:08:43 |
fefifofum | it's a boot.img with ro.secure=0, that's all | 15:08:44 |
Dazzozo | oh I see | 15:08:48 |
Dazzozo | wow good job huawei | 15:08:52 |
Alkalinorap | yep | 15:08:56 |
Dazzozo | thats hilarious | 15:08:59 |
rymate1234 | <Dazzozo> why do you need a chinese kernel? | 15:09:05 |
Alkalinorap | If you want this I can provide it to you | 15:09:08 |
Dazzozo | nah i'll just wait | 15:09:15 |
Dazzozo | was just interested | 15:09:16 |
rymate1234 | #你只活一次 | 15:09:17 |
Alkalinorap | but I'm not responsible ![]() |
15:09:24 |
Alkalinorap | haha | 15:09:25 |
Alkalinorap | ok | 15:09:31 |
Dazzozo | if i can't do it via a userspace exploit | 15:09:46 |
Dazzozo | I'm not going to risk anything | 15:09:51 |
Alkalinorap | when I did, the screen started to blink and almost break. When I finished the OEM-INFO backup I installed quickly an international UPDATE.APP | 15:11:10 |
Alkalinorap | because many users brick the phone in this point | 15:11:26 |
Dazzozo | has anyone tried gandalf on it? | 15:12:15 |
Dazzozo | even the nexus 4 is vulnerable to that | 15:12:22 |
Alkalinorap | mmm I think that no | 15:12:33 |
Alkalinorap | I don't heard this | 15:12:43 |
Dazzozo | how about mempodroid? | 15:13:20 |
Alkalinorap | I tried | 15:13:41 |
Alkalinorap | but the offsets doesn't match | 15:13:47 |
Dazzozo | yeah you'd have to find new offsets | 15:14:02 |
Dazzozo | problem is i can't even get write privileges on the sdcard atm | 15:14:18 |
fefifofum | Alkalinorap we tried the right offsets and it didn't work, remember? | 15:14:25 |
Dazzozo | so i can't write... anywhere | 15:14:27 |
Alkalinorap | I used a xda tutorial to find new offsets and found it but didn't work | 15:14:38 |
Alkalinorap | yeah fefifofum | 15:14:39 |
Dazzozo | where are you even pushing it to | 15:15:07 |
Dazzozo | 1|shell@android:/ $ cd sdcard | 15:15:23 |
Dazzozo | cd sdcard | 15:15:23 |
Dazzozo | 2|shell@android:/ $ cd data | 15:15:23 |
Dazzozo | cd data | 15:15:23 |
Dazzozo | shell@android:/data $ ls | 15:15:24 |
Dazzozo | ls | 15:15:26 |
Dazzozo | opendir failed, Permission denied | 15:15:27 |
Dazzozo | 255|shell@android:/data $ | 15:15:29 |
Dazzozo | i can't get shit | 15:15:31 |
fefifofum | i think there is no risk in rooting before unlocking bootloader | 15:15:35 |
Dazzozo | if you can manage it yeah | 15:15:44 |
Dazzozo | omg | 15:15:54 |
Dazzozo | data/local/tmp | 15:15:56 |
Dazzozo | doesnt have the same permissions | 15:16:01 |
Dazzozo | wow gratz | 15:16:03 |
Alkalinorap | lol | 15:16:05 |
fefifofum | it's easy, you just change the boot.img with that update.app | 15:16:14 |
Dazzozo | i don't want to fuck with update.apps to root | 15:16:25 |
fefifofum | the ones who bricked it it's because they used the wrong boot.img | 15:16:28 |
Dazzozo | well even then | 15:16:38 |
Dazzozo | if they got their unlock code they could save it | 15:16:43 |
rymate1234 | Dazzozo didn't buy this device | 15:16:55 |
rymate1234 | So obviously he's being a bit wary | 15:17:05 |
Alkalinorap | rymate1234, when you buy an armv7 device? | 15:17:46 |
Dazzozo | 2000 and never | 15:17:57 |
rymate1234 | ^ | 15:18:28 |
Alkalinorap | lol | 15:18:33 |
rymate1234 | unless you count my iPad | 15:18:37 |
Alkalinorap | nana | 15:18:48 |
Alkalinorap | ![]() |
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Dazzozo | http://i.thebronasium.com/yuki/20131004-162028.png | 15:20:42 |
Dazzozo | lold. | 15:20:43 |
Alkalinorap | ![]() |
15:20:56 |
Dazzozo | yep the kernel is no longer vulnerable to the mem_write exploit | 15:22:19 |
Dazzozo | gg | 15:22:24 |
Dazzozo | i can get offsets too, they're not just useful because mem_write checks permissions now | 15:22:51 |
Alkalinorap | yes.. | 15:23:24 |
Alkalinorap | Huashit labs.. | 15:23:33 |
Dazzozo | its not huawei | 15:23:39 |
Dazzozo | that was fixed in the linux kernel a long time ago | 15:23:46 |
Dazzozo | but android takes a while to catch up | 15:23:51 |
Dazzozo | considerably less so recently, but still | 15:24:04 |
Dazzozo | android was on 2.6 for fucking ever | 15:24:11 |
Alkalinorap | lol | 15:24:19 |
Haran_Banjo | Uživatel Haran_Banjo [~grossi@2-233-4-10.ip215.fastwebnet.it] vstoupil do místnosti. | 15:30:04 |
Haran_Banjo | hi all | 15:31:34 |
Dazzozo | hi | 15:32:02 |
Haran_Banjo | dazz, are you going to use this channel also for the y300 development? | 15:32:15 |
Dazzozo | ye | 15:32:28 |
rymate1234 | better update the topic | 15:32:42 |
Dazzozo | i will do | 15:32:48 |
Dazzozo | but i cant dev until i have an unlocked bootloader lol | 15:32:54 |
modacouserr | you can't dev until huawei wats you to ![]() |
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Haran_Banjo | I've been reading the logs at http://g300.valicek.name/ in order t understand how to compile cm-10.1 my self using kra1o5 sources | 15:33:37 |
modacouserr | are they still taking ages to reply with a code? | 15:33:38 |
Dazzozo | modacouserr: i guess we'll find out | 15:33:48 |
modacouserr | tru story | 15:33:56 |
modacouserr | true | 15:33:58 |
Haran_Banjo | did you used the form on their website? | 15:34:17 |
Haran_Banjo | it took exactly 24 hours for me to get response | 15:34:25 |
Dazzozo | both | 15:34:38 |
Dazzozo | i sent an email and used the form | 15:34:41 |
Dazzozo | you know what would be funny | 15:35:05 |
Dazzozo | if i got two codes and they both worked | 15:35:09 |
Dazzozo | it would say a lot about how their system works | 15:35:20 |
Haran_Banjo | ahaha | 15:35:33 |
fefifofum | i think there are two different codes to unlock the bootloader | 15:36:17 |
Haran_Banjo | fefifofum: me too, one regular, and one for their chineese nsa | 15:36:52 |
Haran_Banjo | ![]() |
15:36:53 |
fefifofum | i don't remember now, but there are two different kind of prefix in the unlock code | 15:39:04 |
fefifofum | most users get one of them, but some get the other | 15:39:34 |
Haran_Banjo | btw, the site needs a css fix, nicks like intensedarkness are too wide for the nick column so they overlap the chat line next to them. I acutally ha to use a usermod script to made them easier on my eyes | 15:39:47 |
fefifofum | I remember because some of these user thought their code was wrong | 15:39:53 |
Haran_Banjo | fefifofum: my unlock code was all numeric, 16 digits | 15:41:29 |
Dazzozo | im still amazed Windows Defender detected an ARM binary | 15:42:19 |
rymate1234 | LOO | 15:42:42 |
rymate1234 | LOOLLL | 15:42:52 |
rymate1234 | I CAN'T TYPE | 15:43:06 |
Dazzozo | the screen doesnt feel like sandpaper on the Y300 thank god | 15:44:02 |
Haran_Banjo | Dazzozo: please, may you take hardware info of your device while your still on the stock rom? | 15:47:11 |
cybojenix-away | Uživatel „cybojenix-away“ je nyní znám jako cybojenix. | 15:48:04 |
cybojenix | Uživatel „cybojenix“ je nyní znám jako cybojenix-away. | 15:48:18 |
cybojenix-away | Uživatel „cybojenix-away“ je nyní znám jako cybojenix. | 15:48:42 |
Haran_Banjo | I own two y300 both bought from amazon. Will soon post the screenshots taken by using the secret code (damn I dont remember which one it was!) | 15:49:22 |
Dazzozo | what hardware info | 15:51:17 |
tcpaulh | Uživatel tcpaulh [~tcpaulh@3.164.125.91.dyn.plus.net] vstoupil do místnosti. | 15:54:26 |
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Dazzozo | so this bundled EA Games app is ads basically | 15:55:30 |
Haran_Banjo | those obtained by using the dialcode *#*#2846579#*#* for example | 15:56:39 |
Dazzozo | well i dont know of any others | 15:58:44 |
Dazzozo | since im on AOSP stuff all the time | 15:58:48 |
Dazzozo | synaptics-2202-OFILM.12 | 16:00:08 |
Dazzozo | BOE NT35512 | 16:00:13 |
Dazzozo | ext cam 23060110FA-OV-S-Y300 | 16:00:32 |
Dazzozo | int cam 23060075FF-MT-S | 16:00:51 |
Dazzozo | MSM8X25_U8833-1.VerA | 16:01:05 |
Haran_Banjo | this is is mine: http://imgbin.me/view/FAKUSLHV | 16:03:47 |
Dazzozo | same as mine apart from the emmc and LCD | 16:04:51 |
Haran_Banjo | iyour display is BOE NT35512? | 16:05:09 |
Dazzozo | yeah | 16:05:19 |
Dazzozo | emmc is SanDisk-3959422976 | 16:05:33 |
modacouserr | 500 Internal Server Error Sorry, something went wrong. A team of highly trained monkeys has been dispatched to deal with this situation. If you see them, show them this information: | 16:06:25 |
Alkalinorap | mine is samsung I think | 16:06:26 |
modacouserr | youtube | 16:06:27 |
Haran_Banjo | ok, i was asking becouse there are some problem with some screens. Mine for example is sensible to the milky screen problem | 16:06:30 |
Dazzozo | wasnt that fixed a few days ago | 16:07:25 |
Haran_Banjo | it was lessen, but the problem still remain sadly | 16:07:51 |
Haran_Banjo | my sister has the same y300, but whith stock rom, and I can see clearly the difference | 16:08:29 |
Dazzozo | is "milky" really the right adjective | 16:09:13 |
Dazzozo | because I don't think I get the same picture that everyone else gets | 16:09:26 |
Haran_Banjo | yes, colors seem washed | 16:09:37 |
Dazzozo | hmm | 16:09:46 |
Haran_Banjo | not on the stock rom, just on the CM ones generated without stock kernel I think | 16:10:06 |
Haran_Banjo | stock rom has vivid colours | 16:10:23 |
Alkalinorap | can be due to chinese sources? | 16:10:38 |
Haran_Banjo | and I use my sister one as reference | 16:10:54 |
Dazzozo | is everyone using a kernel similar to kra1o5's? | 16:11:09 |
Dazzozo | because that's already outdated | 16:11:20 |
Haran_Banjo | I was trying to build a rom by myself but wasn't able to do it yet | 16:11:53 |
Haran_Banjo | some of his patches do not apply anymore | 16:12:02 |
Haran_Banjo | or maybe I'm using a wrong local_manifest | 16:12:15 |
Haran_Banjo | josalaito rom, cm-10, hadn't the same problem AFAIK | 16:12:51 |
Haran_Banjo | BTW, I'm using the 10-20130925-UNOFFICIAL-u8833 version at the moment, seems it's almost stable and camera works, altough battery drin is still huge compared to stock (resolvable using greenify) | 16:15:25 |
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Haran_Banjo | Uživatel Haran_Banjo [~haran@2-233-4-10.ip215.fastwebnet.it] vstoupil do místnosti. | 16:22:46 |
Dazzozo | man the vibrator is very | 16:22:50 |
Dazzozo | sharp | 16:22:51 |
Dazzozo | sudden | 16:22:55 |
Alkalinorap | yup | 16:23:03 |
Alkalinorap | very | 16:23:06 |
Dazzozo | CM's intensity feature would be useful | 16:23:23 |
Haran_Banjo | yes, this phone rocks!! ![]() |
16:23:31 |
Alkalinorap | I think that the great improvement must be in the speaker volume | 16:24:11 |
Haran_Banjo | Dazzozo: I suggest you the amazon 2.1A charger for this phone, it charges like hell ![]() |
16:24:30 |
Alkalinorap | is the weak point of this phone | 16:24:37 |
Dazzozo | doesnt matter | 16:24:42 |
Dazzozo | it can charge as slow as it wants | 16:24:50 |
Dazzozo | im not going to be using it as a phone | 16:24:57 |
Haran_Banjo | ![]() |
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cybojenix-away | Uživatel „cybojenix-away“ je nyní znám jako cybojenix. | 16:25:26 |
Dazzozo | i love how they used the android on screen button icons | 16:25:53 |
Dazzozo | for their capacitive keys | 16:25:56 |
Dazzozo | well, for back and home | 16:26:07 |
Dazzozo | android doesnt have a menu one ofc | 16:26:11 |
Dazzozo | but the one they made is pretty consistent | 16:26:17 |
Dazzozo | which is awesome | 16:26:21 |
Alkalinorap | yes | 16:26:34 |
Haran_Banjo | this is my first non-nexus android device I own, so don't really know. As far as I can tell, it's superb for the 129€ I've spent on it | 16:28:04 |
Dazzozo | i prefer the overall design of the Y300 | 16:31:06 |
Dazzozo | but i prefer the back of the G300 | 16:31:09 |
thejaimes111 | Uživatel thejaimes111 [~androirc@182.Red-2-138-216.dynamicIP.rima-tde.net] vstoupil do místnosti. | 16:31:43 |
thejaimes111 | Hey | 16:32:11 |
Alkalinorap | lol | 16:33:27 |
Alkalinorap | +1 | 16:33:30 |
AndChat|131924 | Uživatel AndChat|131924 [~intenseda@188.29.165.22.threembb.co.uk] vstoupil do místnosti. | 16:37:10 |
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Kyan31 | Uživatel Kyan31 [~androirc@178.111.63.113] vstoupil do místnosti. | 16:44:21 |
Kyan31 | Hello | 16:44:31 |
Dazzozo | hi | 16:44:37 |
Kyan31 | How are you today? | 16:44:52 |
thejaimes111 | Hey | 16:45:05 |
Kyan31 | Hello | 16:45:15 |
Kyan31 | We all love clover, the taste is so grand, we all love clover, all over this land | 16:46:26 |
Alkalinorap | hi kyan3238428349248924823478788,2438284^3 | 16:50:17 |
Kyan31 | Lol | 16:50:49 |
Kyan31 | Hello | 16:50:58 |
intensedarkness | Uživatel intensedarkness [~intenseda@82.13.107.159] vstoupil do místnosti. | 16:52:29 |
Kyan31 | Dazzozo, I heard about your y300 donation thingy | 16:53:05 |
Kyan31 | Nice | 16:53:11 |
Kyan31 | Mhm | 16:53:15 |
Alkalinorap | yiah | 16:53:23 |
Kyan31 | You guys are free to buy me a y300 too | 16:53:43 |
Kyan31 | Just saying | 16:53:47 |
Kyan31 | I'd appreciate it lots | 16:53:56 |
thejaimes111 | Yes ofc | 16:53:57 |
thejaimes111 | Just say | 16:53:58 |
Kyan31 | Jaime | 16:54:04 |
Kyan31 | You can buy me an n4 | 16:54:10 |
Alkalinorap | I gift my y300 for 4289382943 euros | 16:54:50 |
Kyan31 | Wow | 16:54:57 |
Kyan31 | You are a good negotiator | 16:55:04 |
thejaimes111 | Wasnt a Y300? | 16:55:23 |
Alkalinorap | I know ![]() |
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Kyan31 | It must of been a solid gold one | 16:55:40 |
thejaimes111 | Alka I want your G300 | 16:56:05 |
Alkalinorap | no, it's made of dog food | 16:56:40 |
Alkalinorap | ok, you can ask to my mom | 16:57:20 |
thejaimes111 | Ok, but now, bye | 16:57:43 |
Alkalinorap | hello | 16:57:53 |
thejaimes111 | Yh | 16:57:57 |
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Kyan31 | Lol | 17:01:18 |
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Eloimuns | yo | 18:07:36 |
Dazzozo | yo | 18:09:33 |
red_ | Uživatel red_ [b2111e60@gateway/web/freenode/ip.178.17.30.96] vstoupil do místnosti. | 18:10:01 |
Eloimuns | Dazzozo, have y300? | 18:10:20 |
Dazzozo | ye | 18:10:35 |
Eloimuns | nice | 18:11:02 |
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jordilopez94 | until Monday will not have the bootloader | 18:16:23 |
Dazzozo | probly | 18:16:39 |
jordilopez94 | what are your impressions of the device? | 18:18:17 |
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fefifofum | lol | 18:24:15 |
Dazzozo | https://plus.google.com/107797272029781254158/posts/g3R51JxPjcC | 18:24:34 |
Dazzozo | fuck SAKE google | 18:24:35 |
Dazzozo | why did people want this junk | 18:24:39 |
Dazzozo | I dont WANT hangouts | 18:24:46 |
Dazzozo | and now my fucking phone is going to be preconfigured without a messaging app | 18:24:54 |
Dazzozo | because of clowns demanding this integration | 18:24:58 |
Dazzozo | yay, i want to give all my texts to google AND have their shitty social network that I have no use for shoved in my face | 18:27:23 |
Dazzozo | fantastic! | 18:27:27 |
Dazzozo | people love things being put in the play store | 18:28:44 |
Dazzozo | but... whyyyy | 18:28:46 |
rymate1234 | Solve fragmentation | 18:31:05 |
Dazzozo | but it doesnt! | 18:31:27 |
rymate1234 | well it back ports some new features | 18:31:53 |
rymate1234 | But yeah removing the texting app is retarded | 18:32:10 |
rymate1234 | maybe ill package the AOSP messaging app for the play store ![]() |
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Dazzozo | *sigh* | 18:33:17 |
Dazzozo | every move google makes regarding their apps makes me sad inside now | 18:33:41 |
Dazzozo | since it always fucks up something I do | 18:34:28 |
rymate1234 | I actually would use hangouts | 18:34:34 |
rymate1234 | If any of my friends used it | 18:34:40 |
Dazzozo | I actually wouldnt | 18:34:41 |
Dazzozo | because I use steam | 18:34:46 |
Dazzozo | my girlfriend uses steam | 18:34:57 |
Dazzozo | tell me why i need hangouts or whatsapp | 18:35:02 |
rymate1234 | Most of my friends either use Facebook or BBM | 18:35:21 |
rymate1234 | Dazzozo: you don't | 18:35:27 |
Dazzozo | i have a facebook account for any apps that require it | 18:35:36 |
Dazzozo | G+ for the same reason | 18:35:39 |
Dazzozo | theyre basically throw aways | 18:35:42 |
Dazzozo | i really dont care about them | 18:35:48 |
rymate1234 | if there's an app that requires Facebook | 18:36:25 |
rymate1234 | I uninstall it | 18:36:27 |
rymate1234 | I actually use google+ | 18:36:36 |
Dazzozo | "If Dianne Hackborn leaves, that's it. I'm going to actually believe some weird internal politics are going on inside the Android team. | 18:36:49 |
Dazzozo | " | 18:36:50 |
rymate1234 | Mainly to stalk random devs ![]() |
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Dazzozo | I think | 18:36:59 |
Dazzozo | people are leaving the android team | 18:37:04 |
Dazzozo | because its becoming "another one of Google's products" | 18:37:13 |
rymate1234 | no shit, really? | 18:37:27 |
Dazzozo | its not really experimental or crazy now | 18:37:27 |
Dazzozo | rymate1234: stop being retarded | 18:37:31 |
rymate1234 | rip android | 18:38:12 |
rymate1234 | rip c, | 18:38:15 |
rymate1234 | *c, | 18:38:17 |
rymate1234 | *cm | 18:38:21 |
adfad666 | are u joking | 18:38:30 |
rymate1234 | Ubuntu touch is the future | 18:38:34 |
adfad666 | rofl | 18:38:38 |
adfad666 | ubuntu tough is a pos | 18:38:48 |
adfad666 | touch | 18:38:51 |
Haran_Banjo | ubuntu touch is the future shit I will throw at the window | 18:39:15 |
adfad666 | throw it out the window | 18:39:36 |
adfad666 | canonical is a lost sheep right now | 18:40:05 |
adfad666 | no fcking idea what they want to do | 18:40:13 |
Haran_Banjo | (*throw out the right?) | 18:40:24 |
kra1o5 | Uživatel kra1o5 [57da1dc0@gateway/web/freenode/ip.87.218.29.192] vstoupil do místnosti. | 18:42:22 |
kra1o5 | yo | 18:42:24 |
Haran_Banjo | haven't you noticed a general shift from openess to locked-in environments? | 18:42:28 |
Haran_Banjo | first facebook...now google | 18:42:52 |
Dazzozo | yes and it makes me sad | 18:42:53 |
Dazzozo | i think they're getting way more praise for this shit than i think they deserve | 18:43:13 |
adfad666 | why? Google stuff was always closed | 18:43:19 |
Dazzozo | now my phone wont have a messaging app without being tied in to google services? | 18:43:32 |
Dazzozo | get fucked | 18:43:34 |
Dazzozo | dont remove parts of the OS please | 18:43:51 |
Dazzozo | release replacements sure | 18:44:00 |
adfad666 | it'll still be there in AOSP | 18:44:00 |
Haran_Banjo | not long time ago it was possible to send email from facebook, by just putting an email address as the destination of a facebook message | 18:44:03 |
Dazzozo | so? | 18:44:04 |
Dazzozo | SO? | 18:44:05 |
Dazzozo | it wont be on devices | 18:44:12 |
Dazzozo | the gapps are a bundle | 18:44:17 |
Dazzozo | you have the lot or you have nothing | 18:44:22 |
rymate1234 | Dazzozo: >manufacturers | 18:44:23 |
Dazzozo | its becoming harder and harder to do the stuff i want | 18:45:26 |
Dazzozo | thats why it makes me sad | 18:45:29 |
rymate1234 | huh? | 18:45:34 |
Haran_Banjo | now you can't from facebook. You can still send an mail to someone inside facebook by using <username>@facebook.com and have responses back, but the fgeneral facebook user cannot initiate the conversation anymore ![]() |
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Dazzozo | i shouldnt have to build the app from AOSP myself | 18:45:36 |
Dazzozo | whats next? the phone app? | 18:45:46 |
Dazzozo | is that getting google voice integration or some shit? | 18:45:57 |
Dazzozo | hah we dont need that on phones anymore | 18:46:03 |
rymate1234 | Dazzozo, no | 18:46:12 |
rymate1234 | because google voice is US only | 18:46:17 |
Dazzozo | idc | 18:46:20 |
Dazzozo | it was an example | 18:46:22 |
Dazzozo | but this messaging shit is the most ridiculous one yet | 18:46:33 |
rymate1234 | guys remember | 18:46:41 |
rymate1234 | it's a rumour | 18:46:46 |
Dazzozo | up to now its been shit like the calendar | 18:46:48 |
Dazzozo | ~the fucking calendar~ | 18:46:52 |
rymate1234 | i like the calendar syncing with google | 18:47:07 |
Dazzozo | it was there before it went proprietary | 18:47:13 |
Dazzozo | so i dont see what that achieved | 18:47:21 |
adfad666 | but you know why they did it with shit like calendar | 18:47:31 |
rymate1234 | because for some reason my iPad can sync with my google calendar | 18:47:32 |
adfad666 | it was part of their strategy for people to have 'updates' even when the OS isn't updated | 18:48:11 |
Dazzozo | for an app they dont update anyway | 18:48:24 |
rymate1234 | >gingerbread | 18:48:33 |
adfad666 | calendar has been updated | 18:48:47 |
rymate1234 | unless it doesn't work on gingerbread | 18:48:49 |
adfad666 | not so frequently | 18:48:53 |
rymate1234 | in which case yeah it's fucking retarded | 18:48:59 |
adfad666 | gingerbread can die in a fire | 18:49:11 |
rymate1234 | not until samsunbg stops selling the galaxy ace | 18:49:20 |
Dazzozo | we know why the nexus warriors thought it was a good thing | 18:49:30 |
rymate1234 | *sansung | 18:49:31 |
adfad666 | gingerbread looks like shit | 18:49:36 |
adfad666 | tastes like shit too | 18:49:38 |
rymate1234 | i can't spell tonight | 18:49:41 |
Dazzozo | because its gonna give everyone the nexus experience | 18:49:41 |
Dazzozo | omgg~~ | 18:49:47 |
Dazzozo | but doing it to messaging is a bigger deal i think | 18:50:10 |
adfad666 | the nexus experience is just how the OS looks | 18:50:17 |
adfad666 | the apps are just that, apps | 18:50:22 |
Dazzozo | Samsung won't like it for sure | 18:50:23 |
rymate1234 | virtualbox load pls | 18:50:25 |
Dazzozo | considering they're trying to push their own messaging app | 18:50:31 |
adfad666 | samsung can die in a fire too | 18:50:34 |
Dazzozo | haha nope gotta have the full google apps deal | 18:50:38 |
Dazzozo | well sadly samsung has a huge market share | 18:50:48 |
adfad666 | globally, yeah | 18:51:02 |
Dazzozo | of course | 18:51:07 |
adfad666 | not much here i've noticed recently | 18:51:14 |
Dazzozo | great | 18:51:18 |
Dazzozo | but somehow i dont think that matters | 18:51:28 |
rymate1234 | I'm actually seeing a lot of windows phones | 18:51:34 |
rymate1234 | for some odd reason | 18:51:37 |
Dazzozo | i've actually seen 1 in my entire life | 18:51:41 |
Dazzozo | and it looks like, well, a windows phone | 18:51:50 |
adfad666 | it could be just bias since i like sony devices, but I've seen loads of them around recently, way more than other manufacturers | 18:52:06 |
adfad666 | here at least | 18:52:26 |
rymate1234 | I've seen two nexus devices | 18:52:32 |
adfad666 | I've seen one | 18:52:38 |
adfad666 | mine | 18:52:41 |
rymate1234 | lmao | 18:52:46 |
Dazzozo | I've seen 20 | 18:52:47 |
rymate1234 | ![]() |
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Dazzozo | ish | 18:52:49 |
Dazzozo | my college had the nexus warrior types | 18:53:08 |
Dazzozo | they all did computing like me so | 18:53:28 |
Dazzozo | ya | 18:53:31 |
adfad666 | heh | 18:53:41 |
Dazzozo | HOLY SHIT | 18:54:02 |
Dazzozo | the huawei clock widget | 18:54:06 |
Dazzozo | what the hell is going on there | 18:54:11 |
Dazzozo | what did they do | 18:54:14 |
adfad666 | lol, i just got a spam mail from my local electronics store | 18:55:28 |
adfad666 | translation of the subject: the more games you play, the more of a man you are! | 18:55:40 |
Dazzozo | http://y300.thebronasium.com/ | 18:58:45 |
Dazzozo | ![]() |
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Dazzozo | ![]() |
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Dazzozo | ![]() |
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Dazzozo | ddd | 18:58:55 |
rymate1234 | its happening | 18:59:03 |
adfad666 | it's all emptay!!! | 18:59:13 |
Dazzozo | ))) | 18:59:18 |
adfad666 | git your 4.4 build there already ffs | 18:59:24 |
Dazzozo | ye | 18:59:30 |
adfad666 | fag | 18:59:32 |
adfad666 | you're too slow | 18:59:34 |
Dazzozo | ye | 18:59:35 |
Dazzozo | refund | 18:59:38 |
Dazzozo | ye | 18:59:39 |
adfad666 | yeah | 18:59:44 |
adfad666 | gimme me my refund | 18:59:49 |
adfad666 | i deserve it | 18:59:55 |
Dazzozo | lol | 19:00:00 |
adfad666 | i trusted you | 19:00:16 |
adfad666 | you blew it | 19:00:18 |
Dazzozo | wow i havent set things up for a new device in a while | 19:00:49 |
Dazzozo | http://steamcommunity.com/groups/steamuniverse/announcements/detail/2145128928746175450 | 19:02:57 |
Dazzozo | dat hardware | 19:03:00 |
Uživatel „kra1o5“ opustil místnost (Quit: Page closed). | 19:03:05 | |
Dazzozo | im gonna port steamos to the g300 | 19:04:00 |
rymate1234 | that's | 19:04:13 |
rymate1234 | pretty | 19:04:14 |
rymate1234 | fucking | 19:04:15 |
rymate1234 | good | 19:04:20 |
rymate1234 | (as long as you get an i7 titan) | 19:04:29 |
Dazzozo | yes | 19:04:53 |
Dazzozo | 450w is enough for that? seriously? | 19:05:03 |
Kra1o5 | Uživatel Kra1o5 [~kratos@192.29.218.87.dynamic.jazztel.es] vstoupil do místnosti. | 19:05:52 |
rymate1234 | hi | 19:05:57 |
Kra1o5 | hi | 19:06:03 |
Dazzozo | List of video game publishers who hate their customers: http://steamdb.info/familysharing.php | 19:06:44 |
rymate1234 | wait what | 19:06:46 |
rymate1234 | Dazzozo, is that beta steam box free? | 19:06:59 |
rymate1234 | if you get in beta | 19:07:00 |
Dazzozo | yus | 19:07:08 |
Dazzozo | its RNG lol | 19:07:16 |
rymate1234 | do you get to keep it? | 19:07:25 |
Dazzozo | you could get an i3 GTX660 turtle | 19:07:26 |
Dazzozo | yes | 19:07:29 |
rymate1234 | my god | 19:07:32 |
Dazzozo | are you serious? | 19:07:37 |
rymate1234 | that's pretty good then | 19:07:38 |
Dazzozo | this is chump change to valve | 19:07:39 |
Dazzozo | they shipped a huge box of shit to me for free | 19:07:52 |
Dazzozo | and about | 19:07:56 |
rymate1234 | lol wat | 19:07:58 |
Dazzozo | ~29 other people | 19:08:01 |
rymate1234 | what was the box of shit | 19:08:09 |
Dazzozo | stuff from the valve store | 19:08:37 |
Dazzozo | and a few exclusives | 19:08:41 |
Dazzozo | it happened over 2011 | 19:09:11 |
rymate1234 | if i get a gtx titan i7 | 19:09:15 |
Dazzozo | but i got it at the start of 2012 i think | 19:09:16 |
rymate1234 | well rip this desktop | 19:09:19 |
Dazzozo | speaking of which im wearing a shirt they dont sell | 19:10:02 |
Dazzozo | xd | 19:10:03 |
rymate1234 | is it hl3 official merchendice? | 19:10:27 |
Dazzozo | exdeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeee | 19:10:33 |
Dazzozo | eeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeee | 19:10:36 |
Kra1o5 | wat | 19:11:28 |
Dazzozo | ^ | 19:11:35 |
rymate1234 | those 2 lines had 30 characters in it | 19:12:24 |
rymate1234 | 3 + 0 = 3 | 19:12:29 |
rymate1234 | hl3 confirmed | 19:12:31 |
Dazzozo | >3+0 | 19:12:39 |
Dazzozo | im gonna guess my unlock code | 19:14:52 |
Dazzozo | k | 19:14:54 |
adfad666 | 123456 | 19:15:00 |
adfad666 | i win | 19:15:07 |
rymate1234 | I'm gonna guess my phone unlo- OH WAIT | 19:15:44 |
Dazzozo | http://i.thebronasium.com/yuki/20131004-201540.png | 19:15:47 |
Dazzozo | this actually happened | 19:15:50 |
adfad666 | there are three number 3's in that screenshot | 19:17:01 |
adfad666 | HL3 confirmed. | 19:17:10 |
Dazzozo | indeed | 19:17:12 |
adfad666 | Dazzozo, leaked it | 19:17:40 |
adfad666 | they're gonna get you | 19:17:48 |
Dazzozo | yes | 19:18:02 |
Haran_Banjo | may I use repo init -u git://github.com/CyanogenMod/android.git -b cm-10.2 on a directory where I already have run "repo init" for, say, cm-10.1? or do I need to use another directory? | 19:23:41 |
adfad666 | it'll work fine | 19:23:56 |
Haran_Banjo | thanks | 19:24:09 |
adfad666 | you can do just "repo init -b cm-10.2" | 19:24:32 |
adfad666 | as the manifest location is the same | 19:24:48 |
Haran_Banjo | great, it just switch branch on the repo I already have then | 19:25:24 |
modacouserr | Uživatel modacouserr [0251932f@gateway/web/freenode/ip.2.81.147.47] vstoupil do místnosti. | 19:26:26 |
modacouserr | back | 19:26:43 |
Dazzozo | http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=1803739 | 19:27:14 |
Dazzozo | wtf? | 19:27:15 |
Dazzozo | why is this on reddit | 19:27:29 |
Dazzozo | its a year old | 19:27:30 |
Uživatel „Kra1o5“ opustil místnost (Quit: Saliendo). | 19:28:26 | |
adfad666 | because reddit | 19:28:38 |
costan | Uživatel costan [costan@adsl-200.46.190.32.tellas.gr] vstoupil do místnosti. | 19:39:01 |
rymate1234 | http://steamcommunity.com/groups/steamuniverse/announcements/detail/2145128928746175450 | 19:44:44 |
rymate1234 | steambox confirmed awesome | 19:44:50 |
Dazzozo | rymate1234: thats the exact same thing i linked earlier | 19:45:07 |
Dazzozo | wat | 19:45:07 |
rymate1234 | oh lol | 19:45:13 |
rymate1234 | fuck | 19:45:19 |
rymate1234 | yay my memory] | 19:45:28 |
adfad666 | rymate1234, Dazzozo is the link master | 20:12:52 |
adfad666 | how did you not notice yet | 20:12:56 |
adfad666 | i just changed my wallpaper, now unity looks like diarrhoea | 20:14:22 |
rymate1234 | >unity | 20:15:58 |
rymate1234 | found your problem | 20:16:02 |
adfad666 | meh, it works | 20:16:42 |
adfad666 | just don't choose a yellow wallpaper | 20:16:52 |
adfad666 | wow, Vodafone CZ just pushed an update to their account management app / widget | 20:18:18 |
adfad666 | it crashed AL Lthe things | 20:18:23 |
adfad666 | play store, launcher and the app itself all died | 20:18:56 |
adfad666 | gg | 20:18:59 |
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tcpaulh | So g510 is Rom compatible with y300 | 20:19:56 |
djuroue | Uživatel djuroue [~Ahil82@cable-178-149-164-72.dynamic.sbb.rs] vstoupil do místnosti. | 20:20:20 |
ChanServ | Uživatel „ChanServ“ nastavil režim (djuroue +v). | 20:20:21 |
djuroue | yo | 20:20:31 |
tcpaulh | Hey | 20:20:38 |
djuroue | lakyljuk did you fix your problems ?! ![]() |
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lakyljuk | djuroue: thanks for asking,yes, all up and running | 20:21:16 |
djuroue | great, nice to hear it ![]() |
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lakyljuk | I put official 952 in dload and removed sim | 20:21:36 |
lakyljuk | after that, update finished | 20:21:45 |
djuroue | nice ![]() |
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djuroue | what's going on here ?! ![]() |
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tcpaulh | @Dazzozo: I guess any upcoming y300 Rom will work on g510 too? Might get one if I don't get a blade V | 20:28:43 |
Uživatel „Eloimuns“ opustil místnost (Quit: Saliendo). | 20:29:43 | |
Dazzozo | <<<<<<< Not a Y300 dev | 20:33:54 |
Dazzozo | ask someone who knows lol | 20:34:10 |
djuroue | ![]() |
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tcpaulh | Hehe I think stock firmware is interchangeable so... | 20:35:02 |
Dazzozo | i need an unlock code to be a dev | 20:35:06 |
tcpaulh | Or dodgy unlock | 20:35:28 |
tcpaulh | http://huawei-y300.tumblr.com/post/47366836617/how-to-unlock-and-root-huawei-ascend-y300-all | 20:37:09 |
Dazzozo | nty | 20:37:39 |
tcpaulh | Lol | 20:37:47 |
djuroue | haha | 20:38:26 |
djuroue | G300 is pain in the ass | 20:38:34 |
djuroue | why bothering with Y300 !=! | 20:38:40 |
Dazzozo | because it doesnt cost me anything | 20:38:50 |
djuroue | ![]() |
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tcpaulh | So I downgraded maps to v 6.14.3 . Bollocks to v7...for now | 20:41:15 |
tcpaulh | Got nav icon back yay | 20:41:38 |
Dazzozo | oh god damn | 21:09:50 |
Dazzozo | i noticed something in the stock rom thats really bothering me | 21:09:56 |
Dazzozo | the wifi and mobile network icons are different | 21:10:14 |
Dazzozo | theyre slightly bigger | 21:10:18 |
Dazzozo | but they didnt change the battery indicator | 21:10:22 |
Dazzozo | huawei pls... | 21:10:40 |
tcpaulh | Slack | 21:12:27 |
jordilopez94 | Uživatel jordilopez94 [~jordilope@77.224.208.20] vstoupil do místnosti. | 21:31:14 |
Alkalinorap_ | Uživatel Alkalinorap_ [~Alkalino@110.26.76.188.dynamic.jazztel.es] vstoupil do místnosti. | 21:46:31 |
Dazzozo | " | 21:48:00 |
Dazzozo | It will be every interesting to see how Cyanogenmod is integrated into this device. For the first time, Android enthusiasts see the possibility of having a bloatware free phone and the thought could not be more exciting." | 21:48:00 |
Dazzozo | >implying CM is not bloatware | 21:48:04 |
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intensedarkness | Uživatel intensedarkness [~intenseda@85.210.41.166] vstoupil do místnosti. | 21:50:30 |
Uživatel „Alkalinorap_“ opustil místnost (Quit: Saliendo). | 21:56:53 | |
adfad666 | which phone? | 21:59:13 |
Dazzozo | N1 | 21:59:19 |
adfad666 | oh | 21:59:24 |
adfad666 | pos | 21:59:37 |
lakyljuk | Dazz, this storage switch option will move app data too, or just swaps storages? | 22:03:33 |
Dazzozo | just swaps | 22:12:03 |
Uživatel „jordilopez94“ opustil místnost (Quit: Saliendo). | 22:15:04 | |
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Haran_Banjo | wow.../usr/bin/lzop is needed to build cyanogenmod. It isn't mentioned anywhere, is it? | 22:17:53 |
Dazzozo | no its not | 22:18:31 |
Dazzozo | its needed to build your kernel if you use LZO compression | 22:19:00 |
Dazzozo | so you have no one to blame but yourself ![]() |
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Haran_Banjo | ![]() |
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Haran_Banjo | ![]() |
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Dazzozo | nope | 22:19:54 |
Dazzozo | im pretty sure kra1o5 has it installed ![]() |
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Haran_Banjo | ok, searching for a cilicio and inflicting pain myself a-la opus dei | 22:20:46 |
Dazzozo | ![]() |
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adfad666 | Isn't LZO used on AOSP kernels? it is at least on Sony kernels | 22:21:29 |
Dazzozo | because that makes sense | 22:21:49 |
Dazzozo | >Sony | 22:21:50 |
Dazzozo | >AOSP | 22:21:51 |
Dazzozo | and dont tell me about that "project" | 22:22:12 |
Haran_Banjo | gosh...is there a way to tell the buildsystem to just "continue"? I rerun brunch u8833 and it restarted compiling...c'mon...you just finished building!! | 22:22:29 |
Dazzozo | huh? | 22:22:53 |
Dazzozo | that makes no sense | 22:22:59 |
Haran_Banjo | wy not? doesn't it compare if sources files has been modified at all? | 22:23:32 |
Dazzozo | it doesnt even rebuild stuff unless it was modified | 22:23:51 |
Haran_Banjo | isn't it the whole reason make has existed? | 22:23:58 |
Dazzozo | wtf | 22:24:10 |
Haran_Banjo | I've run brunch u8833, waited a lot, then it stopped due to lzop missing | 22:24:52 |
Dazzozo | it never rebuilds anything | 22:24:53 |
Dazzozo | yes | 22:24:58 |
Haran_Banjo | i've installed it, relaunched brunch u8833 | 22:25:10 |
Haran_Banjo | and it is recompiling everything | 22:25:23 |
Dazzozo | its not | 22:25:26 |
Haran_Banjo | it is | 22:25:34 |
Haran_Banjo | ![]() |
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Dazzozo | its compiling what it hasnt compiled already | 22:25:41 |
Dazzozo | i dont think you want to get in an argument about the android build system with me | 22:26:26 |
Haran_Banjo | ahahaha roger, i pass | 22:26:48 |
Dazzozo | lol | 22:26:55 |
Haran_Banjo | ok i thought the lzop thing was related to a final step | 22:27:42 |
Haran_Banjo | actually it's not. so kernel compilation goes in parallel with other parts, right? | 22:28:06 |
Dazzozo | yes, a final step - of the kernel build | 22:28:08 |
Haran_Banjo | ok | 22:28:20 |
Dazzozo | but its not necessarily going to do the kernel build as soon as you start the build again | 22:28:20 |
Haran_Banjo | where is my cilicio again? | 22:28:30 |
Dazzozo | ![]() |
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Haran_Banjo | yes, it's now stuck on compiling libwebcore | 22:29:19 |
Dazzozo | libwebcore is pretty huge | 22:29:36 |
Haran_Banjo | how long it may take on an i7 2630qm? | 22:29:37 |
Dazzozo | not enough info ![]() |
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Haran_Banjo | ok, i guess it's a metter of waiting 'till it finish | 22:30:53 |
Haran_Banjo | btw, is there a a way to speed up things up by putting some sources onto memory? | 22:31:31 |
Haran_Banjo | I have 14GB of ram and it's pity to not take advantage of it | 22:31:53 |
Dazzozo | you can create a ramdisk | 22:32:48 |
Dazzozo | and you could put $OUT on it | 22:32:59 |
Dazzozo | CCACHE helps a lot | 22:33:07 |
Haran_Banjo | but 14gb is still too small to hold a complete $OUT, right? | 22:33:46 |
Dazzozo | probs | 22:33:54 |
Haran_Banjo | and ccache is only useful for recompilation right? | 22:34:03 |
Dazzozo | yup | 22:34:08 |
Haran_Banjo | I would rather like to see a three-staged building system | 22:34:18 |
Dazzozo | but are you really that concerned about your first build lol | 22:34:21 |
Haran_Banjo | first stage takes some projects to ram, 2 stage compile it on ram, third stage move the output from ram to hdd | 22:34:59 |
Haran_Banjo | and so on | 22:35:00 |
Dazzozo | well thats what it does | 22:35:30 |
Dazzozo | it has to load it in to ram to compile it | 22:35:46 |
Haran_Banjo | ![]() |
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Haran_Banjo | yes but it does it file by file | 22:36:12 |
Dazzozo | creating a pseudo ramdisk, copying it in, building it, copying it out and destroying it would be slower | 22:36:24 |
Haran_Banjo | much better if it does it project by projects... | 22:36:43 |
Haran_Banjo | not if you pipeline it | 22:36:56 |
Haran_Banjo | i mean, a worker-thread responsible to load into ram as much projects as it can, till, say, 1GB | 22:37:24 |
Haran_Banjo | in the meantime, as soon as say, 8 projects got copied to ram, a second worker-thread start compile them in parallel, | 22:38:22 |
Haran_Banjo | *starts | 22:38:32 |
Haran_Banjo | then the thrid worker-thread start coping the output of the second worker-thread to the disk as soon as there's something redy to be copied | 22:39:24 |
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Dazzozo | im pretty sure there would be an almost negligible time difference | 22:45:14 |
Dazzozo | it would probably be a little slower | 22:45:20 |
Dazzozo | this is not the major bottleneck in android builds though | 22:45:34 |
Dazzozo | hilariously parsing makefiles takes minutes of an android build | 22:47:00 |
Dazzozo | theres a few other stand out examples but the makefile one is pretty funny | 22:47:22 |
djuroue | this guy is going to bed ![]() |
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djuroue | good night ![]() |
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Dazzozo | cya lol | 22:47:45 |
djuroue | yeaaa | 22:47:49 |
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Haran_Banjo | finally!! it's assebling the image now I think | 22:49:29 |
Haran_Banjo | daz, I find however that compiling kernel directly in ram takes a lot less, 8-10 minutes AFAIR, compared to 17-20 minutes from disk | 22:51:53 |
Dazzozo | but | 22:52:34 |
Haran_Banjo | I mean, a sabayon kernel, with a lot of drivers compiled as module | 22:52:36 |
Dazzozo | we have ccache | 22:52:36 |
Haran_Banjo | doesn't ccache cache out objs files? | 22:53:09 |
Haran_Banjo | how is it related to sources? | 22:53:22 |
Haran_Banjo | *checking right know | 22:53:37 |
Dazzozo | hang on | 22:56:32 |
Dazzozo | http://ccache.samba.org/manual.html#_how_ccache_works | 22:56:38 |
Dazzozo | there | 22:56:43 |
Haran_Banjo | so it just saves you the costs of parsing and compiling an already compiled code | 23:00:20 |
Haran_Banjo | but you still need to go back and forth the slow IO of hdds | 23:00:48 |
Haran_Banjo | you still need ramdisk (I usually just copy kernel sources on /tmp and compile there ![]() |
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Dazzozo | and instead we would do what exactly? | 23:01:32 |
Dazzozo | copy the entire cache to ramdisk? | 23:01:40 |
Dazzozo | GL | 23:01:41 |
Haran_Banjo | no abslutely | 23:01:49 |
Dazzozo | use an SSD | 23:01:57 |
Haran_Banjo | I can be faster than an SSD | 23:02:13 |
Dazzozo | unless you want to invest in a ton of RAM | 23:02:15 |
Haran_Banjo | with lots of ram | 23:02:17 |
Dazzozo | of course you can | 23:02:23 |
Haran_Banjo | te problem is understand how much RAM you really need | 23:03:05 |
Dazzozo | I doubt you can be faster than SSD + ccache though | 23:03:06 |
Dazzozo | honestly | 23:03:20 |
Haran_Banjo | consider that in order to compile a source project, you need to read it at least one time, so you walk the slow IO part at least one time | 23:03:51 |
Haran_Banjo | better to do it in batch mode, by copy a whole lot of files on ram, say, 1 GB | 23:04:18 |
Dazzozo | but you still have the IO issue copying in to RAM | 23:04:58 |
Haran_Banjo | then start compiling in ram, the output may be 500MB? 1GB? I don't care...I have say, 10GB available for compilation | 23:05:01 |
Haran_Banjo | you always have to move code from HDD to RAM, so there's no point there | 23:05:22 |
Haran_Banjo | after finishing compilation, you move the output to hdd again | 23:05:58 |
Haran_Banjo | I think that pipelining this workflow you can speed up a lot the whole compilation | 23:06:35 |
Dazzozo | so what are we saying here? remove ccache? | 23:06:38 |
Haran_Banjo | no, ccache os orthogonal | 23:06:46 |
Haran_Banjo | is | 23:06:48 |
Dazzozo | i dont understand what you're asking me to compare | 23:06:52 |
Dazzozo | so you want to load the entire cache in to ram? | 23:07:04 |
Dazzozo | because you will have to | 23:07:10 |
Haran_Banjo | it just saves you recompiling an already compiled source code | 23:07:17 |
Dazzozo | if you want to go ram-only | 23:07:17 |
Dazzozo | but if ccache isnt on ram | 23:07:28 |
Dazzozo | you're reading from hdd | 23:07:34 |
Haran_Banjo | I'm not saying to move eveything to ram: ofcourse you cannot becouse you need something like 50GB | 23:08:17 |
Dazzozo | yes | 23:08:26 |
cybojenix | 30 | 23:08:27 |
Dazzozo | but if you're going to continue to use ccache | 23:08:30 |
Dazzozo | you need to have the cache SOMEWHERE | 23:08:35 |
Dazzozo | so | 23:08:41 |
Dazzozo | if you don't want 50gb RAM | 23:08:44 |
Dazzozo | it has to be on HDD | 23:08:46 |
Dazzozo | which means you have a HDD read | 23:08:49 |
Haran_Banjo | yes, but you don't work on 50GB at the same time? do you? so what I'm saying is to work on ram at say, 5-6GB at a time | 23:09:31 |
cybojenix | No | 23:09:41 |
cybojenix | Daz is right. The | 23:10:05 |
cybojenix | Bottleneck is the hhd | 23:10:06 |
Haran_Banjo | you always have to read source files in order to compile them, so better to do the read in batch | 23:10:08 |
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Dazzozo | but this is about ccache | 23:10:32 |
Dazzozo | if you're using ccache the cache needs to be somewhere | 23:10:41 |
Dazzozo | and it needs to be available | 23:10:43 |
Haran_Banjo | no, you are saying this is about ccache ![]() |
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Dazzozo | yes, i was asking | 23:10:53 |
Haran_Banjo | ccache mybe on hdd or in ram, desn't matter where | 23:10:57 |
Dazzozo | are we keeping or removing ccache | 23:10:58 |
Dazzozo | thats what im asking | 23:11:03 |
cybojenix | Don't send ccache to ram | 23:11:04 |
Haran_Banjo | no you keep ccache | 23:11:05 |
Dazzozo | so if you keep it | 23:11:10 |
Dazzozo | and its on hdd | 23:11:12 |
Dazzozo | you have a hdd read | 23:11:14 |
Dazzozo | when you try to compare the source file | 23:11:17 |
Dazzozo | which you've already copied in to ram | 23:11:21 |
Dazzozo | against its preprocessed output | 23:11:26 |
Dazzozo | which is on the hdd | 23:11:33 |
Haran_Banjo | move ccche on ram | 23:12:26 |
Haran_Banjo | read 5GB of sources | 23:12:38 |
Haran_Banjo | that is, move them to ram | 23:12:49 |
Haran_Banjo | now start compilining, rading from ram | 23:13:12 |
Dazzozo | so | 23:13:31 |
cybojenix | That would be slower | 23:13:33 |
Dazzozo | what you're saying is | 23:13:33 |
Dazzozo | yeah | 23:13:38 |
Haran_Banjo | save the output of your builing with ccache in order to reuse it in uture | 23:13:38 |
Haran_Banjo | go straight till you compile the first project | 23:14:00 |
Dazzozo | this boils down to "when should we read the source files" | 23:14:09 |
Haran_Banjo | only now you move the output of the project to hdd | 23:14:23 |
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Haran_Banjo | it depends on how much work you can do in parallel | 23:14:58 |
Haran_Banjo | and this amount work depend on GB of RAM and # of cpus | 23:15:19 |
Dazzozo | yeah | 23:15:25 |
Dazzozo | its just | 23:15:26 |
Dazzozo | which bottleneck are you going to hit first | 23:15:30 |
Haran_Banjo | consider that you can hide the IO bottleneck of the disk | 23:15:55 |
cybojenix | You can't | 23:16:07 |
Haran_Banjo | during compilation | 23:16:10 |
Haran_Banjo | that is | 23:16:17 |
Haran_Banjo | at the beginiing , you start coping say, 4 projects, tot 4GB of sources | 23:17:00 |
Haran_Banjo | our cpu are idling, | 23:17:05 |
Haran_Banjo | as soon as the first project has been copied to ram, you start compiling it | 23:17:22 |
Haran_Banjo | during compilation, you still move the second project from HDD to ram, while CPU is still compiling the frst project | 23:17:58 |
cybojenix | where does the output go? | 23:18:17 |
cybojenix | All the objects and binaries | 23:18:28 |
Haran_Banjo | at some time, CPU ends compiling the first project and start compiling the second | 23:18:33 |
Dazzozo | honestly, i think any difference is negligible | 23:18:35 |
Dazzozo | at some point you're reading from disk | 23:18:43 |
Haran_Banjo | of coure you are | 23:18:50 |
Dazzozo | if you want a bottleneck, I'm not sure but apps used to build single threaded | 23:19:03 |
Dazzozo | i dunno if thats still the case | 23:19:26 |
Haran_Banjo | but you save a lot of cache-miss on CPU, batching IO also improve overall throughput | 23:19:51 |
Dazzozo | you're basically saying "lets copy a bunch of stuff to RAM" | 23:19:57 |
Dazzozo | instead of "lets copy a few things to RAM" | 23:20:04 |
Dazzozo | eventually you've copied it all to RAM | 23:20:08 |
Haran_Banjo | (my example was about a single cpu, but ou can extend it to multiple projects being compiled a the same time, like it is now) | 23:20:20 |
Haran_Banjo | exactly | 23:20:28 |
Dazzozo | but how is it faster? | 23:20:40 |
Haran_Banjo | becouse first it's a whole better to batch IO from hdd rather then doing the copy file by file with compilations in between | 23:21:28 |
cybojenix | It would only be effective with multiple builds. But then the cpu is the bottleneck | 23:21:29 |
Dazzozo | we're not "bottlenecking" by waiting for the rest of a module to copy | 23:21:32 |
Haran_Banjo | you're bottlenecking the sata bus, the memory bus | 23:21:55 |
Dazzozo | if you copied the entire module you would be waiting for the whole thing to copy | 23:22:05 |
Haran_Banjo | and god know how much other things in order to interleave radings and compilation | 23:22:29 |
Haran_Banjo | just at the beginning daz | 23:22:44 |
Dazzozo | so? | 23:22:52 |
Haran_Banjo | you just wait the time to copy t ram the first project | 23:22:56 |
Dazzozo | no you dont | 23:23:03 |
Dazzozo | you wait for it throughout the build | 23:23:09 |
Haran_Banjo | not at all | 23:23:18 |
Dazzozo | IO doesnt take place by itself | 23:23:21 |
Haran_Banjo | becouse it takes a lot more to compile an entire project rather then copying it to ram | 23:23:43 |
Dazzozo | so what assumptions are you making about the current build system? | 23:24:08 |
Dazzozo | that we do everything on a single thread and wait for all IO? | 23:24:15 |
Haran_Banjo | no | 23:24:34 |
Haran_Banjo | but you just parallelize the single compilation unit | 23:24:55 |
Haran_Banjo | actually a compilation unit is done by hdd->ram, compilation, ram->hdd | 23:25:09 |
Haran_Banjo | you have first and third staged that are IO-bounded | 23:25:23 |
Dazzozo | no it doesnt | 23:25:25 |
Haran_Banjo | and only the second stage to be CPU-bounde | 23:25:33 |
Dazzozo | everything is parallelised | 23:25:41 |
Haran_Banjo | yes, but how? | 23:25:49 |
Dazzozo | what do you mean how? | 23:25:55 |
Haran_Banjo | you invoke gcc on files that are on hdd right? | 23:26:08 |
Dazzozo | yes | 23:26:15 |
Haran_Banjo | so for eery gcc invocation | 23:26:20 |
Haran_Banjo | you do: hdd->ram, compilation, ram-hdd | 23:26:31 |
Dazzozo | as opposed to | 23:26:37 |
Dazzozo | a lot of hdd->ram | 23:26:40 |
Dazzozo | for a long time | 23:26:42 |
Dazzozo | and then compilation | 23:26:45 |
Dazzozo | and then a lot of ram->hdd | 23:26:50 |
Dazzozo | for a long time | 23:26:51 |
Dazzozo | i actually think that way is slower | 23:26:56 |
Haran_Banjo | no, yu pipeline them | 23:27:07 |
Haran_Banjo | you do lots f hdd->ram | 23:27:16 |
cybojenix | Theres also ram to ram, then back again | 23:27:25 |
Dazzozo | thats negligible tbh | 23:27:35 |
Haran_Banjo | say, 5projects | 23:27:36 |
Dazzozo | and we're simplifying here | 23:27:47 |
Haran_Banjo | then start compiling the first project | 23:27:58 |
Haran_Banjo | once you finished to do hdd->ram | 23:28:08 |
cybojenix | You're utilizing the ram more than usual so it takes effect | 23:28:09 |
Dazzozo | but we're not just running gcc once | 23:28:28 |
Haran_Banjo | you can start doing ram->hdd if compilation has finished a project or just do another bunch of hdd->ram | 23:28:54 |
Dazzozo | but thats not necessary | 23:29:03 |
Dazzozo | and its not going to be beneficial | 23:29:13 |
Dazzozo | compared to the current system | 23:29:19 |
Haran_Banjo | do you know how nvidia CUDA works? or openCL? | 23:29:53 |
Dazzozo | yes | 23:31:40 |
Dazzozo | that doesnt particularly apply here though | 23:31:44 |
Dazzozo | we're currently running in parallel | 23:32:07 |
Dazzozo | we go from running in parallel | 23:32:12 |
Dazzozo | to running in parallel | 23:32:14 |
Dazzozo | there is no gain or loss | 23:32:17 |
Haran_Banjo | actually it does if you consider io-bound computation r io-bound computation | 23:33:19 |
Dazzozo | but you've set up a system where | 23:33:38 |
Dazzozo | the IO is busy | 23:33:40 |
Haran_Banjo | in nvidia case, you have a very fast GPU that must be fed throuh slow IO channel | 23:33:43 |
Dazzozo | and the cpu is busy | 23:33:43 |
Dazzozo | and in the current system | 23:33:48 |
Dazzozo | we have the IO busy | 23:33:52 |
Dazzozo | and the cpu busy | 23:33:53 |
Haran_Banjo | the IO may be less busy if you batch the copies | 23:34:42 |
Haran_Banjo | that's my point | 23:34:50 |
cybojenix | But then there's the waiting period | 23:35:06 |
Dazzozo | i still think there's a negligible difference | 23:35:25 |
Haran_Banjo | also cpu may be more effective (les cache-misses) if you keep it working on the same data, or at least on data that is near eachother | 23:35:39 |
Haran_Banjo | well, it may be negligible on an ssd effectlively ![]() |
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Haran_Banjo | but I'm on a 5400 rpm hdd..and feel all the pain of this setup ![]() |
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Dazzozo | i dont know | 23:36:37 |
Haran_Banjo | compilation cmplete by the way ![]() |
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Dazzozo | why do you want the IO less busy? | 23:36:40 |
Dazzozo | isnt the whole point of your system | 23:36:47 |
Dazzozo | to get the IO for one project done | 23:36:53 |
Dazzozo | start the compilation | 23:36:55 |
Dazzozo | so the IO can move on to the next project? | 23:37:00 |
Dazzozo | the IO is constantly busy in both setups | 23:37:09 |
Dazzozo | thats great | 23:37:11 |
Dazzozo | if the IO is always going to be the bottleneck | 23:37:33 |
Dazzozo | you always want it busy | 23:37:35 |
Dazzozo | why add artificial delay | 23:37:39 |
Haran_Banjo | fficial&client=firefox-a&channel=fflb#channel=fflb&q=nvidia+cuda+astream+pipeling&rls=org.mozilla:it%3Aofficial&safe=off">https://www.google.com/search?q=nvidia+cuda+astream&ie=utf-8&oe=utf-8&aq=t&rls=org.mozilla:it![]() |
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Dazzozo | am i looking at the first result | 23:37:57 |
Haran_Banjo | sorry: http://on-demand.gputechconf.com/gtc-express/2011/presentations/StreamsAndConcurrencyWebinar.pdf | 23:38:17 |
cybojenix | What are you going to do for the processes after the compilation. Dex's. Linking. Because the io is busy it's going to go slow again | 23:39:43 |
Haran_Banjo | no, coping 20MB 2kB at a time is different than copying 20MB in a single run | 23:39:52 |
Dazzozo | what you've shown me here is an efficient use of threads | 23:40:02 |
Dazzozo | but | 23:40:08 |
Dazzozo | the current build system is not like the serial example | 23:40:21 |
Haran_Banjo | no, read better especially the 5th slide | 23:40:30 |
Haran_Banjo | yu have h->g and g->h the slow path | 23:40:42 |
Haran_Banjo | *g -> d | 23:41:09 |
Dazzozo | im not convinced :| | 23:42:33 |
Dazzozo | lol | 23:42:34 |
Dazzozo | i can understand a setup like that being useful in some cases | 23:43:00 |
Dazzozo | but i think its a negligible difference in this use case | 23:43:23 |
Dazzozo | implement it and show me | 23:44:15 |
Dazzozo | ![]() |
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Haran_Banjo | ![]() |
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Haran_Banjo | how does the whole -j handling work? | 23:45:38 |
Haran_Banjo | is it script based or is specific to the make binary? | 23:45:53 |
Dazzozo | the latter | 23:47:10 |
Dazzozo | though for sure, there are far worse bottlenecks | 23:52:55 |
Dazzozo | than how we should use IO | 23:53:06 |
Haran_Banjo | ![]() |
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Haran_Banjo | seems aramaic to me | 23:54:29 |
Haran_Banjo | lol | 23:54:31 |
Haran_Banjo | let say I just believe in you and just forget the "implement it and show me" part ![]() |
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Dazzozo | Haran_Banjo: http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=yDdwcNU_Xyo#t=6m30s | 23:59:14 |