#huawei-g300 chanel log 2013-10-04

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Generated: 26.06.2017 15:52:13. Messages: 1333

I'm sorry for not actual logs - my FTP uploads are reduced a lot, i'm working on new solution..

Expected startup is about 10.2.2014

Dazzozo oh shit i remember this 00:00:21
Dazzozo http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ttcboE1GrNg 00:00:22
Dazzozo fuck 00:00:22
SilvesterBot Starting build #169 for job android 00:00:37
tcpaulh @Dazzozo: Could you have a look at maps/navigation next time you're out in the (gloriously well rendered) outside world? 00:15:38
tcpaulh There's bouncy up and down thing 00:16:07
tcpaulh And the skipped frame thing (100s of skipped frames during nav) 00:16:42
tcpaulh Aosp and cm last time I checked 00:17:14
Dazzozo O_O maps works fine with an overlay on 00:18:17
Dazzozo wat a weird bug 00:18:26
tcpaulh Overlay? 00:18:38
Dazzozo ye, apps can now draw over other apps 00:18:54
Dazzozo action launcher 2.0 has a feature which uses it 00:19:07
Dazzozo and i have it enabled and maps is working fine underneath 00:19:21
Dazzozo ooooh 00:19:47
Dazzozo but if i use the overlay 00:19:49
Dazzozo it totally shits itself 00:19:53
tcpaulh It's an odd one 00:20:44
Dazzozo wow 00:21:45
Dazzozo now it doesnt crash 00:21:47
Dazzozo overlay opens and closes fine 00:21:51
Dazzozo but when i return to maps 00:21:54
Dazzozo there's like 00:21:57
Dazzozo the same few tiles repeated over the scree 00:22:08
Dazzozo n 00:22:08
Dazzozo and if i move around it refreshes all 00:22:15
Dazzozo OH GOD 00:22:45
Dazzozo and now 00:22:48
Dazzozo if i drag the maps menu open 00:22:52
Dazzozo the repeated tiles are OVER the menu 00:22:58
Dazzozo .... 00:23:38
tcpaulh I've seen some weird stuff in maps but perhaps not what you're seeing 00:23:45
Dazzozo its over the notification drawer too 00:23:46
tcpaulh If I shake the phone the feedback toast is sometimes completely scrambled 00:24:23
Dazzozo i want it to crash 00:24:57
Dazzozo pls crash 00:24:58
tcpaulh Have had two unexplained reboots while navigating in the last week 00:25:59
Dazzozo and now its working fine 00:26:18
Dazzozo it doesnt help that its so random 00:26:22
tcpaulh Yep it works fine here too occasionally. I reboot and hope that fixes it. Sometimes it does 00:27:06
tcpaulh For a while 00:27:17
tcpaulh Dave you seen the whole screen bouncing up and down vertically? 00:28:14
tcpaulh Have 00:28:19
tcpaulh Or screen freezing during nav for 100s of frames? 00:29:07
Dazzozo nope 00:29:26
tcpaulh While audio keeps good time 00:29:29
tcpaulh Hilarious in some ways 00:29:42
tcpaulh Not in others lol 00:30:26
Dazzozo and now i cant get it to bug at all 00:30:58
tcpaulh Maybe the stuff I get is dependent on moving 00:31:26
Dazzozo wow it just won't bug now 00:31:46
Dazzozo if it does, its temporarily as it destroys the overlay 00:32:02
SilvesterBot Project android build #169: SUCCESS in 32 min: http://jenkins.thebronasium.com/job/android/169/ 00:32:45
Dazzozo http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=2368972 00:33:53
Dazzozo quite widespread on legacy shite 00:33:59
Dazzozo thats quite a spread of devices holy shit 00:34:37
Dazzozo https://github.com/M66B/cm-xtended/issues/172 00:35:51
Uživatel „tcpaulh“ opustil místnost (Quit: Ping timeout: 246 seconds). 00:35:52
tcpaulh Uživatel tcpaulh [~tcpaulh@] vstoupil do místnosti. 00:36:26
ChanServ Uživatel „ChanServ“ nastavil režim (tcpaulh +v). 00:36:26
Dazzozo yeah its similar to the issue that used to be in chrome for a while 00:37:05
Dazzozo "dancing maps" is a nice way to describe it 00:37:36
tcpaulh Yes I guess so 00:42:39
Dazzozo looks like no one has solved it 00:43:03
Dazzozo i wanna see what happens on the Y300 00:43:34
tcpaulh You've got to see it next time you're traveling somewhere 00:43:59
Dazzozo if it doesnt happen it would at least confirm our EGL is fine 00:44:04
tcpaulh https://docs.google.com/file/d/0By9XAHKSPMp9SFFiVlVsVm4zbU0/edit?usp=sharing 00:44:41
tcpaulh That was the best log I could get the other day 00:44:58
tcpaulh Fwiw 00:45:13
tcpaulh You can see the frame skips. Not sure what else 00:47:00
Dazzozo yep 00:49:27
Dazzozo but proprietary code 00:49:29
Dazzozo so theres no further visibility 00:49:33
Dazzozo i'll try it on the Y300 but I think this is for Google to fix 00:49:59
Dazzozo like the dancing chrome bug 00:50:06
Dazzozo im surprised they fixed that tbh 00:50:58
tcpaulh It's been happening for a while but hasn't always. Oh well if you see anything 00:56:51
tcpaulh http://productforums.google.com/forum/m/#!categories/maps/mobile-android 01:07:32
tcpaulh I read the first 150 topic titles. Didn't see anything that rang a bell 01:08:23
tcpaulh Nope, can't see anyone else reporting it. Arse biscuits 01:14:11
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Uživatel „jordilopez94“ opustil místnost (Quit: Ping timeout: 260 seconds). 12:10:02
Dazzozo "Without any warning" about that OTA 12:13:40
Dazzozo lol 12:13:41
Dazzozo as opposed to those warnings Google normally gives? 12:13:54
Dazzozo http://www.phoronix.com/scan.php?page=news_item&px=MTQ3NzA 12:17:20
Dazzozo big. 12:17:21
rymate1234 #holoyolo 12:20:35
jordilopez94 Uživatel jordilopez94 [~jordilope@] vstoupil do místnosti. 12:22:03
Dazzozo >Origin 12:22:58
Dazzozo le le le le le le le le le 12:23:03
djuroue hi Daz, how are you 12:23:12
Dazzozo good 12:23:18
djuroue what is this shit with nvidia linux drivers ?! 12:23:38
djuroue some major update ha ?! 12:23:44
Dazzozo yeah 12:23:56
djuroue man, this last build of cm10 works perfectly 12:26:12
Uživatel „mnupea“ opustil místnost (Quit: Page closed). 12:29:09
lakyljuk damn, I was trying to flash offical 952 firmware with dload folder and +- volume start, it unpacks, installs, but hangs at 98% and does nothing, whould could I try else? Thanks very much. 12:34:49
Dazzozo I used to have hangs around 60-70% 12:35:22
Dazzozo dunno what causes them, i kept pissing around with the oeminfo and eventually it worked 12:35:46
Dazzozo Y300 is here 12:42:09
djuroue I always had them at 30% 12:42:12
tcpaulh Yay 12:42:16
djuroue Dazzozo good luck with new kernel 12:42:19
tcpaulh Inb4 doa 12:42:47
modacouserr nice 12:43:54
modacouserr that memory patch makes such a difference 12:44:07
djuroue is Y300 - G510 ?! 12:44:09
lakyljuk djuroue: and how you fixed it? 12:44:24
Dazzozo >battery goes upside down 12:44:28
Dazzozo quality huawei 12:44:38
modacouserr 12:44:42
djuroue Dazzozo me too when i bought G300... It needs few days 12:44:55
djuroue lakyljuk i had to reset imei to zero 12:45:08
djuroue and then flashing completes. 12:45:18
tcpaulh Without cwm? 12:45:21
tcpaulh I forget the methods 12:45:36
Dazzozo bam booting 12:45:44
Dazzozo o no sim card 12:45:51
djuroue hmm, can that imei hack be used without booting a system 12:46:08
djuroue will pc see adb device in cwm for example !? 12:46:16
djuroue i forgot, didnt use imei hack for a long time .. 12:46:39
tcpaulh Can't be bothered to check forum while on phone. Easy to find out 12:46:52
Dazzozo is the stock rom even booting? i cant tell 12:47:23
Dazzozo yay 12:48:09
Dazzozo that took forever 12:48:17
djuroue first boot 12:48:22
Dazzozo longer than a g300 first boot 12:48:29
Dazzozo lol 12:48:31
djuroue G300 is nicer phone, nicer built ... if only it had 1 gigs of ram ... 12:49:03
djuroue but reality is different 12:49:05
tcpaulh http://www.modaco.com/topic/360716-oeminfo-hack-tool-v10-install-any-updateapp-20032013/ 12:49:06
Dazzozo dual core makes a pretty massive difference 12:49:16
tcpaulh I bet 12:49:26
lakyljuk btw nothing is booting, just pink screen. ok, now put sim out and try again with dload. 12:49:30
cybojenix Uživatel „cybojenix“ je nyní znám jako cybojenix-away. 12:49:33
djuroue tcpaulh ... he cannot boot system 12:50:15
djuroue will he still be able to use hack if he just plugged in phone ?! 12:50:34
djuroue without booting system ?! 12:50:42
Dazzozo huawei definitely upped their game jesus 12:51:38
tcpaulh Yes I think so. Either from pink screen or bootloader 12:51:48
djuroue yes 12:52:13
cybojenix-away Uživatel „cybojenix-away“ je nyní znám jako cybojenix. 12:52:17
djuroue hmm 12:52:21
djuroue hack uses adb 12:52:30
Dazzozo wow really nice phone 12:52:34
djuroue can adb be used in bootloader status 12:52:35
djuroue Dazzozo yeah, my friend has it 12:52:48
djuroue but stock rom is crap 12:52:52
djuroue i flashed him CM10.1 12:52:57
djuroue it ran like hell 12:53:02
Dazzozo my mac address is ftw 12:53:33
djuroue and recently i hold ZTE blade G... In running processes, free ram was 2,9 MB 12:53:40
lakyljuk so, you are right, I cannot use imei hack, since adb is not available. nwm, I just put sim out and dload update run till the very and and phone rebooted and is formating system now so I guess it will be ok 12:55:03
Uživatel „jordilopez94“ opustil místnost (Quit: Saliendo). 12:57:59
Dazzozo not even 4.1.2 huawei 13:00:20
Dazzozo uwotuwot 13:00:22
Dazzozo 4.1.1 13:00:28
Dazzozo lameeeeeeeeeee 13:00:30
Uživatel „tcpaulh“ opustil místnost (Quit: Ping timeout: 248 seconds). 13:02:46
Uživatel „Eloimuns“ opustil místnost (Quit: Ping timeout: 240 seconds). 13:03:16
JillBot Uživatel JillBot [~JillBot@] vstoupil do místnosti. 13:03:36
JillBot [GetCM] Dazzozo pushed 1 new commit to master: http://git.io/4-_8tQ 13:03:36
JillBot GetCM/master 70a84bd Daz Jones: devicemap: add Huawei Ascend Y300 (u8833) 13:03:36
~JillBot Uživatel „JillBot“ opustil místnost (Part). 13:03:36
djuroue 13:06:24
Dazzozo its funny, they updated one icon next to an icon that they didnt update 13:10:26
Dazzozo and as someone who always runs AOSP based stuff i can tell instantly 13:10:47
Dazzozo its barely different 13:11:06
Dazzozo just a tiny bit lighter 13:11:11
djuroue so your work will not be that hard ?! 13:16:27
Dazzozo lol 13:16:53
rymate1234 hi 13:17:16
Dazzozo yo 13:17:20
Uživatel „lakyljuk“ opustil místnost (Quit). 13:20:47
intensedarkness Uživatel intensedarkness [~intenseda@] vstoupil do místnosti. 13:23:48
djuroue must go 13:26:06
djuroue see ya tonite 13:26:10
Dazzozo cya 13:26:43
Uživatel „djuroue“ opustil místnost (Quit). 13:27:05
modacouserr just tried battlefield 4 /0/ awesome 13:27:06
Dazzozo im about to 13:27:29
Dazzozo oh boy i cant wait for "huawei tune" to wake me up in the morning 13:27:36
modacouserr i finally found an app that can actually wake me up with a single alarm lol 13:28:19
modacouserr oh uau, time to eat 13:28:34
modacouserr brb 13:28:35
intensedarkness Dazzozo: got it yet?!? 13:29:40
Dazzozo yes 13:29:41
intensedarkness Ohhhhhh shheeeeeett 13:29:49
intensedarkness What do you reckon 13:30:09
intensedarkness ? 13:30:13
Dazzozo i like how it has a slightly warm screen 13:31:00
Dazzozo it reminds me of N4 default gamma 13:31:13
Dazzozo :3c 13:31:18
Dazzozo but yeah, dual core is a big leap 13:31:28
intensedarkness Lol 13:31:53
intensedarkness Warm screen? 13:32:00
intensedarkness Oh colours wise 13:32:05
intensedarkness Not temperature 13:32:19
intensedarkness What do you think of performance 13:33:45
intensedarkness Noticeable lag right 13:34:01
intensedarkness Has a very Samsung esque feel to it 13:34:18
Dazzozo well im on the stock rom so idk 13:35:41
intensedarkness That's what I'm talking about 13:37:53
intensedarkness Laggg 13:38:00
intensedarkness It's not as bloated as expected though right 13:39:23
intensedarkness ? 13:39:34
intensedarkness Came unlocked? 13:39:45
Dazzozo yup 13:40:20
Dazzozo dunno about bootloader 13:40:24
Dazzozo locked, and adb reboot bootloader works 13:44:50
Dazzozo lold 13:44:52
Dazzozo I already sent a form request 13:45:24
Dazzozo I should email too 13:45:25
Dazzozo haha the stock rom has the adb root bug 13:46:28
Dazzozo amazing 13:46:33
intensedarkness Lol 13:49:53
intensedarkness Definitely send the email saying 13:49:59
intensedarkness 'urgent' 13:50:06
intensedarkness And 'I filled in the form a while back, but no response' 13:51:08
Dazzozo wow I LIKE their torch app 13:51:21
Dazzozo omg. 13:51:25
intensedarkness Why 13:51:29
Dazzozo compared to the CM one 13:51:35
Dazzozo wow 13:51:35
Dazzozo the CM one is ugly as fuck 13:51:41
intensedarkness Mmm hmmm 13:51:50
intensedarkness HUAWEI. 13:52:07
Dazzozo they should put that in the play store 13:52:17
Dazzozo its actually good 13:52:20
intensedarkness We can make your phone shite 13:52:25
intensedarkness But at least we will give you a torch app that's decent 13:52:46
intensedarkness Because at the end of the day when it comes down to it, that why people buy phones 13:53:14
Dazzozo lol 13:53:20
Dazzozo this thing is charging like ass off USB 13:53:34
Dazzozo oh. 13:53:50
Dazzozo oh no. 13:53:51
intensedarkness The stock charger is only like 500mah 13:53:54
Dazzozo the home button 13:53:56
Dazzozo and the app drawer button in the launcher 13:54:02
Dazzozo im using nova 13:54:03
Dazzozo dont line up 13:54:03
Dazzozo but i cant figure out why 13:54:09
Dazzozo the screen seems central and the buttons are central 13:54:18
intensedarkness How many icons in the Nova tray 13:54:25
Dazzozo 5 13:54:36
intensedarkness Home many trays 13:54:55
intensedarkness Try setting it to 1 13:55:05
intensedarkness Docks 13:55:14
Alkalinorap Uživatel Alkalinorap [~Alkalino@] vstoupil do místnosti. 13:55:34
Dazzozo no difference 13:56:02
Dazzozo i guess i can try hacking it with margins 13:56:12
intensedarkness Bullocks 13:56:13
intensedarkness Bollocks* 13:56:22
intensedarkness Lol 13:56:23
intensedarkness Sandra Bullocks 13:56:29
Dazzozo lol 13:56:32
intensedarkness Is the stock performance as expected? 13:57:24
Dazzozo i'd say so 13:57:35
intensedarkness Hmm 13:57:39
intensedarkness I thought it was a tad slow for a dual core 13:57:48
intensedarkness But then again 13:57:53
Dazzozo its not as slow as you've been describing for me 13:58:09
intensedarkness Not much multithreading going on at homr 13:58:11
Dazzozo i can only get it to lag when im doing google play updates 13:58:13
intensedarkness Well 13:58:54
intensedarkness Fill your homescreen with widgets 13:59:17
intensedarkness Which need to autoupdate 13:59:26
intensedarkness And then it's slower 13:59:48
intensedarkness Lol 13:59:50
intensedarkness Excellent, scientific description there 14:00:03
Dazzozo lol 14:00:11
intensedarkness Of how to make it slower 14:00:12
SilvesterBot Starting build #170 for job android 14:00:37
intensedarkness It could do with a mild overclock 14:01:21
cybojenix Uživatel „cybojenix“ je nyní znám jako cybojenix-away. 14:01:23
Dazzozo the soft key lights dont come on half the time lol 14:01:23
Dazzozo 10/10 framework configuration 14:01:43
intensedarkness When you open up maps or something, do you notice a lag? 14:02:04
Dazzozo i havent even got maps installed 14:02:20
Dazzozo hang on 14:02:22
Dazzozo nope 14:02:49
Dazzozo also wow the gesture keyboard is much faster 14:03:04
intensedarkness Hmm 14:03:38
Dazzozo im gonna try and break the display 14:03:42
intensedarkness Maybe I thought it was arse because I got it after my N4 14:03:51
intensedarkness And in comparison... 14:04:02
intensedarkness Obviously 14:04:07
Dazzozo yeah 14:04:11
Dazzozo but i got rid of my N4 14:04:15
Dazzozo and was back to the G300 for a while 14:04:19
Dazzozo so the Y300 feels like 14:04:21
Dazzozo a refreshing return to something closer to the N4 14:04:29
Dazzozo lol 14:04:29
intensedarkness Lol 14:04:38
intensedarkness Indeed 14:04:38
intensedarkness Overall, the y300 just needed 1.2ghz clock and 1gb ram 14:05:04
intensedarkness At a similar price 14:05:13
intensedarkness And with you on board it wouldve taken off like crazy 14:05:39
intensedarkness Fuking arse prod manufacturers just need to realise that they need to sell these devices sim free at a cheap cost 14:06:27
Dazzozo I don't think I'm that influential lol 14:06:39
intensedarkness Wellll UT depends 14:06:58
intensedarkness It* 14:07:00
Dazzozo also i managed to get graphical corruption on the stock rom 14:07:12
Dazzozo qualityyyyyyyyyyyyy 14:07:12
intensedarkness Ohhhhh btw try iplayer 14:07:22
intensedarkness That ran like arse too 14:07:34
intensedarkness And try tvcatchup 14:07:39
intensedarkness <3 tvcatchup 14:08:15
Dazzozo BBC Media Player *yawn* 14:09:33
Dazzozo iplayer works perfectly 14:10:33
Dazzozo and so dos tvcatchup 14:11:39
Dazzozo *does 14:11:41
Dazzozo mobile@huawei.com right? 14:13:49
Dazzozo im gonna send an email now, may as well 14:13:53
adfad666 wow, the donations came in so quick? 14:14:37
adfad666 or did you get another big donation? 14:15:18
Dazzozo we got another £20 from the same guy 14:15:37
Dazzozo and that gg'd it 14:15:41
adfad666 naise 14:15:56
Dazzozo haha even the stock rom doesnt have battery stats 14:16:24
Dazzozo christ huawei 14:16:29
fefifofum Uživatel fefifofum [~fefifofum@] vstoupil do místnosti. 14:17:13
adfad666 so dual core 7x27a ain't so bad? 14:17:14
ChanServ Uživatel „ChanServ“ nastavil režim (fefifofum +v). 14:17:21
fefifofum hi 14:17:25
Dazzozo adfad666: ye 14:18:03
Dazzozo its adreno203 too i think 14:18:06
adfad666 yeah i believe so 14:18:15
Dazzozo but practically the same 14:18:19
intensedarkness Yeah 14:22:37
intensedarkness Dazzozo: that's the right email 14:22:44
intensedarkness Dear Sir/Madam 14:22:47
intensedarkness Please may I request the bootloader unlock code for my Huawei Ascend G300? 14:22:48
intensedarkness   14:22:48
intensedarkness I filled in the form on the following site many weeks ago but have still not heard anything... 14:22:48
intensedarkness reUnlock">http://www.huaweidevice.com/worldwide/servicePolicy.do?methodreUnlock 14:22:48
intensedarkness   14:22:48
intensedarkness Here are the details you require: 14:22:48
intensedarkness Serial Number:  F8L7NB1232200637 14:22:48
intensedarkness Product ID: 22451572 14:22:49
intensedarkness IMEI: 861229010163668 14:22:50
intensedarkness Baseband: 2030 14:22:51
intensedarkness   14:22:51
intensedarkness I urgently need the bootloader code, please could you send me the code directly, as it has been many weeks since I filled in the form online and I still have not heard anything. 14:22:52
intensedarkness Kind regards 14:23:25
Dazzozo im just gonna copy pasta my G300 one 14:23:43
Dazzozo also gj on making all your device info public 14:23:54
adfad666 STEALZ 14:24:08
fefifofum lol 14:24:08
adfad666 /me calls police to report stolen phone 14:24:37
intensedarkness They're not actually my device anymore 14:26:02
intensedarkness Its* 14:26:10
intensedarkness Looooll 14:26:10
intensedarkness And selling it on eBay soon 14:26:23
intensedarkness It's currently in the USA 14:26:30
Dazzozo so you went to the effort of getting me a device 14:26:57
Dazzozo when you were gonna get rid of your own? 14:27:13
Dazzozo wat 14:27:13
intensedarkness G300 above mate 14:27:30
Dazzozo oh 14:27:45
Dazzozo fuck 14:27:48
Dazzozo retarded nvm 14:27:52
intensedarkness But also, yeah I don't use the Y300 much, mostly used by someone else in the household 14:28:19
intensedarkness So I don't have much to gain by organising the fundraiser 14:28:42
intensedarkness But this isn't about me 14:28:49
intensedarkness It's about doing something for you 14:29:05
intensedarkness And for the community 14:29:09
intensedarkness The Y300 was just a very good candidate given the price/spec ratio 14:29:28
intensedarkness Yeah the G300 being sold on ebay anyway, when it gets back from the US in a couple of months 14:30:24
Dazzozo boom, sent 14:30:45
Dazzozo no shitting on me if i dont get a code now 14:31:01
Dazzozo they hate me tbh 14:31:19
intensedarkness Youre welcome btw 14:31:31
intensedarkness You BUMDER 14:31:37
Dazzozo lol 14:31:47
intensedarkness 14:31:48
adfad666 what did you put 14:32:22
intensedarkness ? 14:32:28
adfad666 I can haz hack kodes? 14:32:28
Dazzozo i wasnt gonna lie, i said i had issues with the form when requesting for other devices in the past 14:32:44
Dazzozo so i thought it would be best to email too 14:32:48
intensedarkness Ohhhh 14:33:04
intensedarkness Mistake 14:33:10
intensedarkness I tried that 14:33:15
Dazzozo well im not going to lie 14:33:34
Dazzozo they can easily check, i'll just go through the motions 14:33:45
Dazzozo if i dont get anything then i'll tell them to fucking give me it 14:33:52
Dazzozo nbd 14:34:03
intensedarkness Yeah 14:34:58
intensedarkness Well unofficial unlock will do temporarily 14:35:19
SilvesterBot Project android build #170: SUCCESS in 34 min: http://jenkins.thebronasium.com/job/android/170/ 14:35:27
intensedarkness Dazzozo: anyway let me know when there is a stable 4.4 for the Y300 anyway. 14:35:57
Dazzozo lol. 14:36:05
Dazzozo 1 step at a time 14:36:11
Dazzozo how does the unofficial unlock work? same as g300? 14:41:29
intensedarkness Can't remember 14:45:08
intensedarkness I haven't bothererd much 14:45:20
intensedarkness Just been enjoying the n4 14:45:27
intensedarkness Loaned out the g300 14:45:41
intensedarkness And the y300 is the primary phone of another person in the family 14:46:03
intensedarkness So look it up 14:46:21
intensedarkness Lol 14:46:31
intensedarkness Post in a forum 14:46:38
intensedarkness For help 14:46:41
intensedarkness 14:46:44
Uživatel „deVilbaT“ opustil místnost (Quit: Remote host closed the connection). 14:55:03
Alkalinorap Dazzozo, unofficial unlock doesn't work in the Y300 14:55:10
Dazzozo no one has found one? 14:55:25
Dazzozo intensedarkness you liar 14:55:28
Alkalinorap no 14:55:30
Alkalinorap you can't root without recovery 14:55:41
Dazzozo "can't" 14:55:55
Dazzozo you just watch me 14:55:58
Dazzozo challenge accepted etc 14:56:02
intensedarkness Dazzozo: I may have got confused with the g30p 14:56:36
Alkalinorap the only possible method is flashing a chinese kernel to deface security in the kernel and root with the unlock root 3.1 14:56:37
intensedarkness G300 14:56:42
intensedarkness Woops 14:56:46
Alkalinorap Dazzozo, I recommend you do this to backup OEM-INFO Locked 14:57:14
Alkalinorap later flash an international update.app and unlock bootloader oficially 14:57:30
Dazzozo what partition is oeminfo on Y300? 14:57:35
Alkalinorap 5 14:57:38
Alkalinorap same as g300 14:57:42
Dazzozo o 14:57:47
Alkalinorap but modems no 14:57:50
Alkalinorap one "modem" is oemsbl I think 14:58:04
Dazzozo modem firmware isnt important 14:58:08
Alkalinorap http://www.htcmania.com/showthread.php?t=568169 Dazzozo 14:58:25
deVilbaT Uživatel deVilbaT [di@77-253-23-58.adsl.inetia.pl] vstoupil do místnosti. 14:58:45
Dazzozo so 15:04:31
Dazzozo im not gonna fuck myself over by managing to root now? 15:04:35
Dazzozo because i think im a button press away 15:04:42
rymate1234 Dazzozo, try it 15:05:30
rymate1234 lmao 15:05:33
Alkalinorap to root? 15:05:36
Dazzozo yeah 15:05:41
Dazzozo i think i can root without unlocking the bootloader 15:05:49
Alkalinorap I can provide you one way to root without unlock bootloader 15:05:58
Alkalinorap I did 15:05:59
Alkalinorap and works 15:06:01
Dazzozo didnt you just say it was impossible? 15:06:10
Dazzozo <Alkalinorap> you can't root without recovery 15:06:12
Alkalinorap other users brick the phone 15:06:16
Alkalinorap you can't root without recovery safely 15:06:36
Dazzozo safely? 15:06:41
Alkalinorap I meant 15:06:45
Alkalinorap hehe 15:06:46
Alkalinorap I will explain me: 15:07:11
Alkalinorap you can root with a chinese kernel and unlockroot 3.1 before unlock the bootloader 15:07:42
Alkalinorap this kernel is in UPDATE.APP 15:07:58
Dazzozo why do you need a chinese kernel? 15:08:03
Alkalinorap because it disable the kernel security to root with adb 15:08:23
Dazzozo o_o 15:08:43
Alkalinorap I mean: with this UPDATE.APP you can do the same as G300 in ICS 15:08:43
fefifofum it's a boot.img with ro.secure=0, that's all 15:08:44
Dazzozo oh I see 15:08:48
Dazzozo wow good job huawei 15:08:52
Alkalinorap yep 15:08:56
Dazzozo thats hilarious 15:08:59
rymate1234 <Dazzozo> why do you need a chinese kernel? 15:09:05
Alkalinorap If you want this I can provide it to you 15:09:08
Dazzozo nah i'll just wait 15:09:15
Dazzozo was just interested 15:09:16
rymate1234 #你只活一次 15:09:17
Alkalinorap but I'm not responsible 15:09:24
Alkalinorap haha 15:09:25
Alkalinorap ok 15:09:31
Dazzozo if i can't do it via a userspace exploit 15:09:46
Dazzozo I'm not going to risk anything 15:09:51
Alkalinorap when I did, the screen started to blink and almost break. When I finished the OEM-INFO backup I installed quickly an international UPDATE.APP 15:11:10
Alkalinorap because many users brick the phone in this point 15:11:26
Dazzozo has anyone tried gandalf on it? 15:12:15
Dazzozo even the nexus 4 is vulnerable to that 15:12:22
Alkalinorap mmm I think that no 15:12:33
Alkalinorap I don't heard this 15:12:43
Dazzozo how about mempodroid? 15:13:20
Alkalinorap I tried 15:13:41
Alkalinorap but the offsets doesn't match 15:13:47
Dazzozo yeah you'd have to find new offsets 15:14:02
Dazzozo problem is i can't even get write privileges on the sdcard atm 15:14:18
fefifofum Alkalinorap we tried the right offsets and it didn't work, remember? 15:14:25
Dazzozo so i can't write... anywhere 15:14:27
Alkalinorap I used a xda tutorial to find new offsets and found it but didn't work 15:14:38
Alkalinorap yeah fefifofum 15:14:39
Dazzozo where are you even pushing it to 15:15:07
Dazzozo 1|shell@android:/ $ cd sdcard 15:15:23
Dazzozo cd sdcard 15:15:23
Dazzozo 2|shell@android:/ $ cd data 15:15:23
Dazzozo cd data 15:15:23
Dazzozo shell@android:/data $ ls 15:15:24
Dazzozo ls 15:15:26
Dazzozo opendir failed, Permission denied 15:15:27
Dazzozo 255|shell@android:/data $ 15:15:29
Dazzozo i can't get shit 15:15:31
fefifofum i think there is no risk in rooting before unlocking bootloader 15:15:35
Dazzozo if you can manage it yeah 15:15:44
Dazzozo omg 15:15:54
Dazzozo data/local/tmp 15:15:56
Dazzozo doesnt have the same permissions 15:16:01
Dazzozo wow gratz 15:16:03
Alkalinorap lol 15:16:05
fefifofum it's easy, you just change the boot.img with that update.app 15:16:14
Dazzozo i don't want to fuck with update.apps to root 15:16:25
fefifofum the ones who bricked it it's because they used the wrong boot.img 15:16:28
Dazzozo well even then 15:16:38
Dazzozo if they got their unlock code they could save it 15:16:43
rymate1234 Dazzozo didn't buy this device 15:16:55
rymate1234 So obviously he's being a bit wary 15:17:05
Alkalinorap rymate1234, when you buy an armv7 device? 15:17:46
Dazzozo 2000 and never 15:17:57
rymate1234 ^ 15:18:28
Alkalinorap lol 15:18:33
rymate1234 unless you count my iPad 15:18:37
Alkalinorap nana 15:18:48
Alkalinorap 15:18:50
Dazzozo http://i.thebronasium.com/yuki/20131004-162028.png 15:20:42
Dazzozo lold. 15:20:43
Alkalinorap DDDDDDD 15:20:56
Dazzozo yep the kernel is no longer vulnerable to the mem_write exploit 15:22:19
Dazzozo gg 15:22:24
Dazzozo i can get offsets too, they're not just useful because mem_write checks permissions now 15:22:51
Alkalinorap yes.. 15:23:24
Alkalinorap Huashit labs.. 15:23:33
Dazzozo its not huawei 15:23:39
Dazzozo that was fixed in the linux kernel a long time ago 15:23:46
Dazzozo but android takes a while to catch up 15:23:51
Dazzozo considerably less so recently, but still 15:24:04
Dazzozo android was on 2.6 for fucking ever 15:24:11
Alkalinorap lol 15:24:19
Haran_Banjo Uživatel Haran_Banjo [~grossi@2-233-4-10.ip215.fastwebnet.it] vstoupil do místnosti. 15:30:04
Haran_Banjo hi all 15:31:34
Dazzozo hi 15:32:02
Haran_Banjo dazz, are you going to use this channel also for the y300 development? 15:32:15
Dazzozo ye 15:32:28
rymate1234 better update the topic 15:32:42
Dazzozo i will do 15:32:48
Dazzozo but i cant dev until i have an unlocked bootloader lol 15:32:54
modacouserr you can't dev until huawei wats you to 15:33:15
Haran_Banjo I've been reading the logs at http://g300.valicek.name/ in order t understand how to compile cm-10.1 my self using kra1o5 sources 15:33:37
modacouserr are they still taking ages to reply with a code? 15:33:38
Dazzozo modacouserr: i guess we'll find out 15:33:48
modacouserr tru story 15:33:56
modacouserr true 15:33:58
Haran_Banjo did you used the form on their website? 15:34:17
Haran_Banjo it took exactly 24 hours for me to get response 15:34:25
Dazzozo both 15:34:38
Dazzozo i sent an email and used the form 15:34:41
Dazzozo you know what would be funny 15:35:05
Dazzozo if i got two codes and they both worked 15:35:09
Dazzozo it would say a lot about how their system works 15:35:20
Haran_Banjo ahaha 15:35:33
fefifofum i think there are two different codes to unlock the bootloader 15:36:17
Haran_Banjo fefifofum: me too, one regular, and one for their chineese nsa 15:36:52
Haran_Banjo 15:36:53
fefifofum i don't remember now, but there are two different kind of prefix in the unlock code 15:39:04
fefifofum most users get one of them, but some get the other 15:39:34
Haran_Banjo btw, the site needs a css fix, nicks like intensedarkness are too wide for the nick column so they overlap the chat line next to them. I acutally ha to use a usermod script to made them easier on my eyes 15:39:47
fefifofum I remember because some of these user thought their code was wrong 15:39:53
Haran_Banjo fefifofum: my unlock code was all numeric, 16 digits 15:41:29
Dazzozo im still amazed Windows Defender detected an ARM binary 15:42:19
rymate1234 LOO 15:42:42
rymate1234 LOOLLL 15:42:52
rymate1234 I CAN'T TYPE 15:43:06
Dazzozo the screen doesnt feel like sandpaper on the Y300 thank god 15:44:02
Haran_Banjo Dazzozo: please, may you take hardware info of your device while your still on the stock rom? 15:47:11
cybojenix-away Uživatel „cybojenix-away“ je nyní znám jako cybojenix. 15:48:04
cybojenix Uživatel „cybojenix“ je nyní znám jako cybojenix-away. 15:48:18
cybojenix-away Uživatel „cybojenix-away“ je nyní znám jako cybojenix. 15:48:42
Haran_Banjo I own two y300 both bought from amazon. Will soon post the screenshots taken by using the secret code (damn I dont remember which one it was!) 15:49:22
Dazzozo what hardware info 15:51:17
tcpaulh Uživatel tcpaulh [~tcpaulh@] vstoupil do místnosti. 15:54:26
ChanServ Uživatel „ChanServ“ nastavil režim (tcpaulh +v). 15:54:27
Dazzozo so this bundled EA Games app is ads basically 15:55:30
Haran_Banjo those obtained by using the dialcode *#*#2846579#*#* for example 15:56:39
Dazzozo well i dont know of any others 15:58:44
Dazzozo since im on AOSP stuff all the time 15:58:48
Dazzozo synaptics-2202-OFILM.12 16:00:08
Dazzozo BOE NT35512 16:00:13
Dazzozo ext cam 23060110FA-OV-S-Y300 16:00:32
Dazzozo int cam 23060075FF-MT-S 16:00:51
Dazzozo MSM8X25_U8833-1.VerA 16:01:05
Haran_Banjo this is is mine: http://imgbin.me/view/FAKUSLHV 16:03:47
Dazzozo same as mine apart from the emmc and LCD 16:04:51
Haran_Banjo iyour display is BOE NT35512? 16:05:09
Dazzozo yeah 16:05:19
Dazzozo emmc is SanDisk-3959422976 16:05:33
modacouserr 500 Internal Server Error Sorry, something went wrong. A team of highly trained monkeys has been dispatched to deal with this situation. If you see them, show them this information: 16:06:25
Alkalinorap mine is samsung I think 16:06:26
modacouserr youtube 16:06:27
Haran_Banjo ok, i was asking becouse there are some problem with some screens. Mine for example is sensible to the milky screen problem 16:06:30
Dazzozo wasnt that fixed a few days ago 16:07:25
Haran_Banjo it was lessen, but the problem still remain sadly 16:07:51
Haran_Banjo my sister has the same y300, but whith stock rom, and I can see clearly the difference 16:08:29
Dazzozo is "milky" really the right adjective 16:09:13
Dazzozo because I don't think I get the same picture that everyone else gets 16:09:26
Haran_Banjo yes, colors seem washed 16:09:37
Dazzozo hmm 16:09:46
Haran_Banjo not on the stock rom, just on the CM ones generated without stock kernel I think 16:10:06
Haran_Banjo stock rom has vivid colours 16:10:23
Alkalinorap can be due to chinese sources? 16:10:38
Haran_Banjo and I use my sister one as reference 16:10:54
Dazzozo is everyone using a kernel similar to kra1o5's? 16:11:09
Dazzozo because that's already outdated 16:11:20
Haran_Banjo I was trying to build a rom by myself but wasn't able to do it yet 16:11:53
Haran_Banjo some of his patches do not apply anymore 16:12:02
Haran_Banjo or maybe I'm using a wrong local_manifest 16:12:15
Haran_Banjo josalaito rom, cm-10, hadn't the same problem AFAIK 16:12:51
Haran_Banjo BTW, I'm using the 10-20130925-UNOFFICIAL-u8833 version at the moment, seems it's almost stable and camera works, altough battery drin is still huge compared to stock (resolvable using greenify) 16:15:25
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Dazzozo man the vibrator is very 16:22:50
Dazzozo sharp 16:22:51
Dazzozo sudden 16:22:55
Alkalinorap yup 16:23:03
Alkalinorap very 16:23:06
Dazzozo CM's intensity feature would be useful 16:23:23
Haran_Banjo yes, this phone rocks!! also the audio, with dsp manager, is loud! 16:23:31
Alkalinorap I think that the great improvement must be in the speaker volume 16:24:11
Haran_Banjo Dazzozo: I suggest you the amazon 2.1A charger for this phone, it charges like hell 16:24:30
Alkalinorap is the weak point of this phone 16:24:37
Dazzozo doesnt matter 16:24:42
Dazzozo it can charge as slow as it wants 16:24:50
Dazzozo im not going to be using it as a phone 16:24:57
Haran_Banjo allright 16:25:23
cybojenix-away Uživatel „cybojenix-away“ je nyní znám jako cybojenix. 16:25:26
Dazzozo i love how they used the android on screen button icons 16:25:53
Dazzozo for their capacitive keys 16:25:56
Dazzozo well, for back and home 16:26:07
Dazzozo android doesnt have a menu one ofc 16:26:11
Dazzozo but the one they made is pretty consistent 16:26:17
Dazzozo which is awesome 16:26:21
Alkalinorap yes 16:26:34
Haran_Banjo this is my first non-nexus android device I own, so don't really know. As far as I can tell, it's superb for the 129€ I've spent on it 16:28:04
Dazzozo i prefer the overall design of the Y300 16:31:06
Dazzozo but i prefer the back of the G300 16:31:09
thejaimes111 Uživatel thejaimes111 [~androirc@182.Red-2-138-216.dynamicIP.rima-tde.net] vstoupil do místnosti. 16:31:43
thejaimes111 Hey 16:32:11
Alkalinorap lol 16:33:27
Alkalinorap +1 16:33:30
AndChat|131924 Uživatel AndChat|131924 [~intenseda@] vstoupil do místnosti. 16:37:10
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Kyan31 Uživatel Kyan31 [~androirc@] vstoupil do místnosti. 16:44:21
Kyan31 Hello 16:44:31
Dazzozo hi 16:44:37
Kyan31 How are you today? 16:44:52
thejaimes111 Hey 16:45:05
Kyan31 Hello 16:45:15
Kyan31 We all love clover, the taste is so grand, we all love clover, all over this land 16:46:26
Alkalinorap hi kyan3238428349248924823478788,2438284^3 16:50:17
Kyan31 Lol 16:50:49
Kyan31 Hello 16:50:58
intensedarkness Uživatel intensedarkness [~intenseda@] vstoupil do místnosti. 16:52:29
Kyan31 Dazzozo, I heard about your y300 donation thingy 16:53:05
Kyan31 Nice 16:53:11
Kyan31 Mhm 16:53:15
Alkalinorap yiah 16:53:23
Kyan31 You guys are free to buy me a y300 too 16:53:43
Kyan31 Just saying 16:53:47
Kyan31 I'd appreciate it lots 16:53:56
thejaimes111 Yes ofc 16:53:57
thejaimes111 Just say 16:53:58
Kyan31 Jaime 16:54:04
Kyan31 You can buy me an n4 16:54:10
Alkalinorap I gift my y300 for 4289382943 euros 16:54:50
Kyan31 Wow 16:54:57
Kyan31 You are a good negotiator 16:55:04
thejaimes111 Wasnt a Y300? 16:55:23
Alkalinorap I know 16:55:23
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Kyan31 It must of been a solid gold one 16:55:40
thejaimes111 Alka I want your G300 16:56:05
Alkalinorap no, it's made of dog food 16:56:40
Alkalinorap ok, you can ask to my mom 16:57:20
thejaimes111 Ok, but now, bye 16:57:43
Alkalinorap hello 16:57:53
thejaimes111 Yh 16:57:57
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Kyan31 Lol 17:01:18
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Eloimuns Uživatel Eloimuns [~eloimuns@209.pool85-55-229.dynamic.orange.es] vstoupil do místnosti. 18:07:11
Eloimuns yo 18:07:36
Dazzozo yo 18:09:33
red_ Uživatel red_ [b2111e60@gateway/web/freenode/ip.] vstoupil do místnosti. 18:10:01
Eloimuns Dazzozo, have y300? 18:10:20
Dazzozo ye 18:10:35
Eloimuns nice 18:11:02
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jordilopez94 until Monday will not have the bootloader 18:16:23
Dazzozo probly 18:16:39
jordilopez94 what are your impressions of the device? 18:18:17
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fefifofum lol 18:24:15
Dazzozo https://plus.google.com/107797272029781254158/posts/g3R51JxPjcC 18:24:34
Dazzozo fuck SAKE google 18:24:35
Dazzozo why did people want this junk 18:24:39
Dazzozo I dont WANT hangouts 18:24:46
Dazzozo and now my fucking phone is going to be preconfigured without a messaging app 18:24:54
Dazzozo because of clowns demanding this integration 18:24:58
Dazzozo yay, i want to give all my texts to google AND have their shitty social network that I have no use for shoved in my face 18:27:23
Dazzozo fantastic! 18:27:27
Dazzozo people love things being put in the play store 18:28:44
Dazzozo but... whyyyy 18:28:46
rymate1234 Solve fragmentation 18:31:05
Dazzozo but it doesnt! 18:31:27
rymate1234 well it back ports some new features 18:31:53
rymate1234 But yeah removing the texting app is retarded 18:32:10
rymate1234 maybe ill package the AOSP messaging app for the play store 18:32:31
Dazzozo *sigh* 18:33:17
Dazzozo every move google makes regarding their apps makes me sad inside now 18:33:41
Dazzozo since it always fucks up something I do 18:34:28
rymate1234 I actually would use hangouts 18:34:34
rymate1234 If any of my friends used it 18:34:40
Dazzozo I actually wouldnt 18:34:41
Dazzozo because I use steam 18:34:46
Dazzozo my girlfriend uses steam 18:34:57
Dazzozo tell me why i need hangouts or whatsapp 18:35:02
rymate1234 Most of my friends either use Facebook or BBM 18:35:21
rymate1234 Dazzozo: you don't 18:35:27
Dazzozo i have a facebook account for any apps that require it 18:35:36
Dazzozo G+ for the same reason 18:35:39
Dazzozo theyre basically throw aways 18:35:42
Dazzozo i really dont care about them 18:35:48
rymate1234 if there's an app that requires Facebook 18:36:25
rymate1234 I uninstall it 18:36:27
rymate1234 I actually use google+ 18:36:36
Dazzozo "If Dianne Hackborn leaves, that's it. I'm going to actually believe some weird internal politics are going on inside the Android team. 18:36:49
Dazzozo " 18:36:50
rymate1234 Mainly to stalk random devs 18:36:54
Dazzozo I think 18:36:59
Dazzozo people are leaving the android team 18:37:04
Dazzozo because its becoming "another one of Google's products" 18:37:13
rymate1234 no shit, really? 18:37:27
Dazzozo its not really experimental or crazy now 18:37:27
Dazzozo rymate1234: stop being retarded 18:37:31
rymate1234 rip android 18:38:12
rymate1234 rip c, 18:38:15
rymate1234 *c, 18:38:17
rymate1234 *cm 18:38:21
adfad666 are u joking 18:38:30
rymate1234 Ubuntu touch is the future 18:38:34
adfad666 rofl 18:38:38
adfad666 ubuntu tough is a pos 18:38:48
adfad666 touch 18:38:51
Haran_Banjo ubuntu touch is the future shit I will throw at the window 18:39:15
adfad666 throw it out the window 18:39:36
adfad666 canonical is a lost sheep right now 18:40:05
adfad666 no fcking idea what they want to do 18:40:13
Haran_Banjo (*throw out the right?) 18:40:24
kra1o5 Uživatel kra1o5 [57da1dc0@gateway/web/freenode/ip.] vstoupil do místnosti. 18:42:22
kra1o5 yo 18:42:24
Haran_Banjo haven't you noticed a general shift from openess to locked-in environments? 18:42:28
Haran_Banjo first facebook...now google 18:42:52
Dazzozo yes and it makes me sad 18:42:53
Dazzozo i think they're getting way more praise for this shit than i think they deserve 18:43:13
adfad666 why? Google stuff was always closed 18:43:19
Dazzozo now my phone wont have a messaging app without being tied in to google services? 18:43:32
Dazzozo get fucked 18:43:34
Dazzozo dont remove parts of the OS please 18:43:51
Dazzozo release replacements sure 18:44:00
adfad666 it'll still be there in AOSP 18:44:00
Haran_Banjo not long time ago it was possible to send email from facebook, by just putting an email address as the destination of a facebook message 18:44:03
Dazzozo so? 18:44:04
Dazzozo SO? 18:44:05
Dazzozo it wont be on devices 18:44:12
Dazzozo the gapps are a bundle 18:44:17
Dazzozo you have the lot or you have nothing 18:44:22
rymate1234 Dazzozo: >manufacturers 18:44:23
Dazzozo its becoming harder and harder to do the stuff i want 18:45:26
Dazzozo thats why it makes me sad 18:45:29
rymate1234 huh? 18:45:34
Haran_Banjo now you can't from facebook. You can still send an mail to someone inside facebook by using <username>@facebook.com and have responses back, but the fgeneral facebook user cannot initiate the conversation anymore the same is doing google with hangouts and g+ over gtalk 18:45:35
Dazzozo i shouldnt have to build the app from AOSP myself 18:45:36
Dazzozo whats next? the phone app? 18:45:46
Dazzozo is that getting google voice integration or some shit? 18:45:57
Dazzozo hah we dont need that on phones anymore 18:46:03
rymate1234 Dazzozo, no 18:46:12
rymate1234 because google voice is US only 18:46:17
Dazzozo idc 18:46:20
Dazzozo it was an example 18:46:22
Dazzozo but this messaging shit is the most ridiculous one yet 18:46:33
rymate1234 guys remember 18:46:41
rymate1234 it's a rumour 18:46:46
Dazzozo up to now its been shit like the calendar 18:46:48
Dazzozo ~the fucking calendar~ 18:46:52
rymate1234 i like the calendar syncing with google 18:47:07
Dazzozo it was there before it went proprietary 18:47:13
Dazzozo so i dont see what that achieved 18:47:21
adfad666 but you know why they did it with shit like calendar 18:47:31
rymate1234 because for some reason my iPad can sync with my google calendar 18:47:32
adfad666 it was part of their strategy for people to have 'updates' even when the OS isn't updated 18:48:11
Dazzozo for an app they dont update anyway 18:48:24
rymate1234 >gingerbread 18:48:33
adfad666 calendar has been updated 18:48:47
rymate1234 unless it doesn't work on gingerbread 18:48:49
adfad666 not so frequently 18:48:53
rymate1234 in which case yeah it's fucking retarded 18:48:59
adfad666 gingerbread can die in a fire 18:49:11
rymate1234 not until samsunbg stops selling the galaxy ace 18:49:20
Dazzozo we know why the nexus warriors thought it was a good thing 18:49:30
rymate1234 *sansung 18:49:31
adfad666 gingerbread looks like shit 18:49:36
adfad666 tastes like shit too 18:49:38
rymate1234 i can't spell tonight 18:49:41
Dazzozo because its gonna give everyone the nexus experience 18:49:41
Dazzozo omgg~~ 18:49:47
Dazzozo but doing it to messaging is a bigger deal i think 18:50:10
adfad666 the nexus experience is just how the OS looks 18:50:17
adfad666 the apps are just that, apps 18:50:22
Dazzozo Samsung won't like it for sure 18:50:23
rymate1234 virtualbox load pls 18:50:25
Dazzozo considering they're trying to push their own messaging app 18:50:31
adfad666 samsung can die in a fire too 18:50:34
Dazzozo haha nope gotta have the full google apps deal 18:50:38
Dazzozo well sadly samsung has a huge market share 18:50:48
adfad666 globally, yeah 18:51:02
Dazzozo of course 18:51:07
adfad666 not much here i've noticed recently 18:51:14
Dazzozo great 18:51:18
Dazzozo but somehow i dont think that matters 18:51:28
rymate1234 I'm actually seeing a lot of windows phones 18:51:34
rymate1234 for some odd reason 18:51:37
Dazzozo i've actually seen 1 in my entire life 18:51:41
Dazzozo and it looks like, well, a windows phone 18:51:50
adfad666 it could be just bias since i like sony devices, but I've seen loads of them around recently, way more than other manufacturers 18:52:06
adfad666 here at least 18:52:26
rymate1234 I've seen two nexus devices 18:52:32
adfad666 I've seen one 18:52:38
adfad666 mine 18:52:41
rymate1234 lmao 18:52:46
Dazzozo I've seen 20 18:52:47
rymate1234 18:52:47
Dazzozo ish 18:52:49
Dazzozo my college had the nexus warrior types 18:53:08
Dazzozo they all did computing like me so 18:53:28
Dazzozo ya 18:53:31
adfad666 heh 18:53:41
Dazzozo HOLY SHIT 18:54:02
Dazzozo the huawei clock widget 18:54:06
Dazzozo what the hell is going on there 18:54:11
Dazzozo what did they do 18:54:14
adfad666 lol, i just got a spam mail from my local electronics store 18:55:28
adfad666 translation of the subject: the more games you play, the more of a man you are! 18:55:40
Dazzozo http://y300.thebronasium.com/ 18:58:45
Dazzozo 18:58:46
Dazzozo DDDD 18:58:49
Dazzozo DDDDDDDDDDDDDd 18:58:54
Dazzozo ddd 18:58:55
rymate1234 its happening 18:59:03
adfad666 it's all emptay!!! 18:59:13
Dazzozo ))) 18:59:18
adfad666 git your 4.4 build there already ffs 18:59:24
Dazzozo ye 18:59:30
adfad666 fag 18:59:32
adfad666 you're too slow 18:59:34
Dazzozo ye 18:59:35
Dazzozo refund 18:59:38
Dazzozo ye 18:59:39
adfad666 yeah 18:59:44
adfad666 gimme me my refund 18:59:49
adfad666 i deserve it 18:59:55
Dazzozo lol 19:00:00
adfad666 i trusted you 19:00:16
adfad666 you blew it 19:00:18
Dazzozo wow i havent set things up for a new device in a while 19:00:49
Dazzozo http://steamcommunity.com/groups/steamuniverse/announcements/detail/2145128928746175450 19:02:57
Dazzozo dat hardware 19:03:00
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Dazzozo im gonna port steamos to the g300 19:04:00
rymate1234 that's 19:04:13
rymate1234 pretty 19:04:14
rymate1234 fucking 19:04:15
rymate1234 good 19:04:20
rymate1234 (as long as you get an i7 titan) 19:04:29
Dazzozo yes 19:04:53
Dazzozo 450w is enough for that? seriously? 19:05:03
Kra1o5 Uživatel Kra1o5 [~kratos@] vstoupil do místnosti. 19:05:52
rymate1234 hi 19:05:57
Kra1o5 hi 19:06:03
Dazzozo List of video game publishers who hate their customers: http://steamdb.info/familysharing.php 19:06:44
rymate1234 wait what 19:06:46
rymate1234 Dazzozo, is that beta steam box free? 19:06:59
rymate1234 if you get in beta 19:07:00
Dazzozo yus 19:07:08
Dazzozo its RNG lol 19:07:16
rymate1234 do you get to keep it? 19:07:25
Dazzozo you could get an i3 GTX660 turtle 19:07:26
Dazzozo yes 19:07:29
rymate1234 my god 19:07:32
Dazzozo are you serious? 19:07:37
rymate1234 that's pretty good then 19:07:38
Dazzozo this is chump change to valve 19:07:39
Dazzozo they shipped a huge box of shit to me for free 19:07:52
Dazzozo and about 19:07:56
rymate1234 lol wat 19:07:58
Dazzozo ~29 other people 19:08:01
rymate1234 what was the box of shit 19:08:09
Dazzozo stuff from the valve store 19:08:37
Dazzozo and a few exclusives 19:08:41
Dazzozo it happened over 2011 19:09:11
rymate1234 if i get a gtx titan i7 19:09:15
Dazzozo but i got it at the start of 2012 i think 19:09:16
rymate1234 well rip this desktop 19:09:19
Dazzozo speaking of which im wearing a shirt they dont sell 19:10:02
Dazzozo xd 19:10:03
rymate1234 is it hl3 official merchendice? 19:10:27
Dazzozo exdeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeee 19:10:33
Dazzozo eeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeee 19:10:36
Kra1o5 wat 19:11:28
Dazzozo ^ 19:11:35
rymate1234 those 2 lines had 30 characters in it 19:12:24
rymate1234 3 + 0 = 3 19:12:29
rymate1234 hl3 confirmed 19:12:31
Dazzozo >3+0 19:12:39
Dazzozo im gonna guess my unlock code 19:14:52
Dazzozo k 19:14:54
adfad666 123456 19:15:00
adfad666 i win 19:15:07
rymate1234 I'm gonna guess my phone unlo- OH WAIT 19:15:44
Dazzozo http://i.thebronasium.com/yuki/20131004-201540.png 19:15:47
Dazzozo this actually happened 19:15:50
adfad666 there are three number 3's in that screenshot 19:17:01
adfad666 HL3 confirmed. 19:17:10
Dazzozo indeed 19:17:12
adfad666 Dazzozo, leaked it 19:17:40
adfad666 they're gonna get you 19:17:48
Dazzozo yes 19:18:02
Haran_Banjo may I use repo init -u git://github.com/CyanogenMod/android.git -b cm-10.2 on a directory where I already have run "repo init" for, say, cm-10.1? or do I need to use another directory? 19:23:41
adfad666 it'll work fine 19:23:56
Haran_Banjo thanks 19:24:09
adfad666 you can do just "repo init -b cm-10.2" 19:24:32
adfad666 as the manifest location is the same 19:24:48
Haran_Banjo great, it just switch branch on the repo I already have then 19:25:24
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modacouserr back 19:26:43
Dazzozo http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=1803739 19:27:14
Dazzozo wtf? 19:27:15
Dazzozo why is this on reddit 19:27:29
Dazzozo its a year old 19:27:30
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adfad666 because reddit 19:28:38
costan Uživatel costan [costan@adsl-] vstoupil do místnosti. 19:39:01
rymate1234 http://steamcommunity.com/groups/steamuniverse/announcements/detail/2145128928746175450 19:44:44
rymate1234 steambox confirmed awesome 19:44:50
Dazzozo rymate1234: thats the exact same thing i linked earlier 19:45:07
Dazzozo wat 19:45:07
rymate1234 oh lol 19:45:13
rymate1234 fuck 19:45:19
rymate1234 yay my memory] 19:45:28
adfad666 rymate1234, Dazzozo is the link master 20:12:52
adfad666 how did you not notice yet 20:12:56
adfad666 i just changed my wallpaper, now unity looks like diarrhoea 20:14:22
rymate1234 >unity 20:15:58
rymate1234 found your problem 20:16:02
adfad666 meh, it works 20:16:42
adfad666 just don't choose a yellow wallpaper 20:16:52
adfad666 wow, Vodafone CZ just pushed an update to their account management app / widget 20:18:18
adfad666 it crashed AL Lthe things 20:18:23
adfad666 play store, launcher and the app itself all died 20:18:56
adfad666 gg 20:18:59
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tcpaulh So g510 is Rom compatible with y300 20:19:56
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djuroue yo 20:20:31
tcpaulh Hey 20:20:38
djuroue lakyljuk did you fix your problems ?! 20:20:57
lakyljuk djuroue: thanks for asking,yes, all up and running 20:21:16
djuroue great, nice to hear it 20:21:26
lakyljuk I put official 952 in dload and removed sim 20:21:36
lakyljuk after that, update finished 20:21:45
djuroue nice 20:21:47
djuroue what's going on here ?! 20:21:49
tcpaulh @Dazzozo: I guess any upcoming y300 Rom will work on g510 too? Might get one if I don't get a blade V 20:28:43
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Dazzozo <<<<<<< Not a Y300 dev 20:33:54
Dazzozo ask someone who knows lol 20:34:10
djuroue 20:34:19
tcpaulh Hehe I think stock firmware is interchangeable so... 20:35:02
Dazzozo i need an unlock code to be a dev 20:35:06
tcpaulh Or dodgy unlock 20:35:28
tcpaulh http://huawei-y300.tumblr.com/post/47366836617/how-to-unlock-and-root-huawei-ascend-y300-all 20:37:09
Dazzozo nty 20:37:39
tcpaulh Lol 20:37:47
djuroue haha 20:38:26
djuroue G300 is pain in the ass 20:38:34
djuroue why bothering with Y300 !=! 20:38:40
Dazzozo because it doesnt cost me anything 20:38:50
djuroue 20:39:14
tcpaulh So I downgraded maps to v 6.14.3 . Bollocks to v7...for now 20:41:15
tcpaulh Got nav icon back yay 20:41:38
Dazzozo oh god damn 21:09:50
Dazzozo i noticed something in the stock rom thats really bothering me 21:09:56
Dazzozo the wifi and mobile network icons are different 21:10:14
Dazzozo theyre slightly bigger 21:10:18
Dazzozo but they didnt change the battery indicator 21:10:22
Dazzozo huawei pls... 21:10:40
tcpaulh Slack 21:12:27
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Dazzozo " 21:48:00
Dazzozo It will be every interesting to see how Cyanogenmod is integrated into this device. For the first time, Android enthusiasts see the possibility of having a bloatware free phone and the thought could not be more exciting." 21:48:00
Dazzozo >implying CM is not bloatware 21:48:04
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adfad666 which phone? 21:59:13
Dazzozo N1 21:59:19
adfad666 oh 21:59:24
adfad666 pos 21:59:37
lakyljuk Dazz, this storage switch option will move app data too, or just swaps storages? 22:03:33
Dazzozo just swaps 22:12:03
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Haran_Banjo wow.../usr/bin/lzop is needed to build cyanogenmod. It isn't mentioned anywhere, is it? 22:17:53
Dazzozo no its not 22:18:31
Dazzozo its needed to build your kernel if you use LZO compression 22:19:00
Dazzozo so you have no one to blame but yourself 22:19:26
Haran_Banjo or kra1o5...that is 22:19:48
Haran_Banjo 22:19:50
Dazzozo nope 22:19:54
Dazzozo im pretty sure kra1o5 has it installed 22:20:01
Haran_Banjo ok, searching for a cilicio and inflicting pain myself a-la opus dei 22:20:46
Dazzozo 22:21:03
adfad666 Isn't LZO used on AOSP kernels? it is at least on Sony kernels 22:21:29
Dazzozo because that makes sense 22:21:49
Dazzozo >Sony 22:21:50
Dazzozo >AOSP 22:21:51
Dazzozo and dont tell me about that "project" 22:22:12
Haran_Banjo gosh...is there a way to tell the buildsystem to just "continue"? I rerun brunch u8833 and it restarted compiling...c'mon...you just finished building!! 22:22:29
Dazzozo huh? 22:22:53
Dazzozo that makes no sense 22:22:59
Haran_Banjo wy not? doesn't it compare if sources files has been modified at all? 22:23:32
Dazzozo it doesnt even rebuild stuff unless it was modified 22:23:51
Haran_Banjo isn't it the whole reason make has existed? 22:23:58
Dazzozo wtf 22:24:10
Haran_Banjo I've run brunch u8833, waited a lot, then it stopped due to lzop missing 22:24:52
Dazzozo it never rebuilds anything 22:24:53
Dazzozo yes 22:24:58
Haran_Banjo i've installed it, relaunched brunch u8833 22:25:10
Haran_Banjo and it is recompiling everything 22:25:23
Dazzozo its not 22:25:26
Haran_Banjo it is 22:25:34
Haran_Banjo lol 22:25:37
Dazzozo its compiling what it hasnt compiled already 22:25:41
Dazzozo i dont think you want to get in an argument about the android build system with me 22:26:26
Haran_Banjo ahahaha roger, i pass 22:26:48
Dazzozo lol 22:26:55
Haran_Banjo ok i thought the lzop thing was related to a final step 22:27:42
Haran_Banjo actually it's not. so kernel compilation goes in parallel with other parts, right? 22:28:06
Dazzozo yes, a final step - of the kernel build 22:28:08
Haran_Banjo ok 22:28:20
Dazzozo but its not necessarily going to do the kernel build as soon as you start the build again 22:28:20
Haran_Banjo where is my cilicio again? 22:28:30
Dazzozo 22:28:34
Haran_Banjo yes, it's now stuck on compiling libwebcore 22:29:19
Dazzozo libwebcore is pretty huge 22:29:36
Haran_Banjo how long it may take on an i7 2630qm? 22:29:37
Dazzozo not enough info 22:29:52
Haran_Banjo ok, i guess it's a metter of waiting 'till it finish 22:30:53
Haran_Banjo btw, is there a a way to speed up things up by putting some sources onto memory? 22:31:31
Haran_Banjo I have 14GB of ram and it's pity to not take advantage of it 22:31:53
Dazzozo you can create a ramdisk 22:32:48
Dazzozo and you could put $OUT on it 22:32:59
Dazzozo CCACHE helps a lot 22:33:07
Haran_Banjo but 14gb is still too small to hold a complete $OUT, right? 22:33:46
Dazzozo probs 22:33:54
Haran_Banjo and ccache is only useful for recompilation right? 22:34:03
Dazzozo yup 22:34:08
Haran_Banjo I would rather like to see a three-staged building system 22:34:18
Dazzozo but are you really that concerned about your first build lol 22:34:21
Haran_Banjo first stage takes some projects to ram, 2 stage compile it on ram, third stage move the output from ram to hdd 22:34:59
Haran_Banjo and so on 22:35:00
Dazzozo well thats what it does 22:35:30
Dazzozo it has to load it in to ram to compile it 22:35:46
Haran_Banjo ) I came from openwrt background 22:35:57
Haran_Banjo yes but it does it file by file 22:36:12
Dazzozo creating a pseudo ramdisk, copying it in, building it, copying it out and destroying it would be slower 22:36:24
Haran_Banjo much better if it does it project by projects... 22:36:43
Haran_Banjo not if you pipeline it 22:36:56
Haran_Banjo i mean, a worker-thread responsible to load into ram as much projects as it can, till, say, 1GB 22:37:24
Haran_Banjo in the meantime, as soon as say, 8 projects got copied to ram, a second worker-thread start compile them in parallel, 22:38:22
Haran_Banjo *starts 22:38:32
Haran_Banjo then the thrid worker-thread start coping the output of the second worker-thread to the disk as soon as there's something redy to be copied 22:39:24
Alkalinorap Uživatel Alkalinorap [~Alkalinor@] vstoupil do místnosti. 22:40:47
Dazzozo im pretty sure there would be an almost negligible time difference 22:45:14
Dazzozo it would probably be a little slower 22:45:20
Dazzozo this is not the major bottleneck in android builds though 22:45:34
Dazzozo hilariously parsing makefiles takes minutes of an android build 22:47:00
Dazzozo theres a few other stand out examples but the makefile one is pretty funny 22:47:22
djuroue this guy is going to bed 22:47:37
djuroue good night 22:47:40
Dazzozo cya lol 22:47:45
djuroue yeaaa 22:47:49
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Haran_Banjo finally!! it's assebling the image now I think 22:49:29
Haran_Banjo daz, I find however that compiling kernel directly in ram takes a lot less, 8-10 minutes AFAIR, compared to 17-20 minutes from disk 22:51:53
Dazzozo but 22:52:34
Haran_Banjo I mean, a sabayon kernel, with a lot of drivers compiled as module 22:52:36
Dazzozo we have ccache 22:52:36
Haran_Banjo doesn't ccache cache out objs files? 22:53:09
Haran_Banjo how is it related to sources? 22:53:22
Haran_Banjo *checking right know 22:53:37
Dazzozo hang on 22:56:32
Dazzozo http://ccache.samba.org/manual.html#_how_ccache_works 22:56:38
Dazzozo there 22:56:43
Haran_Banjo so it just saves you the costs of parsing and compiling an already compiled code 23:00:20
Haran_Banjo but you still need to go back and forth the slow IO of hdds 23:00:48
Haran_Banjo you still need ramdisk (I usually just copy kernel sources on /tmp and compile there ) 23:01:17
Dazzozo and instead we would do what exactly? 23:01:32
Dazzozo copy the entire cache to ramdisk? 23:01:40
Dazzozo GL 23:01:41
Haran_Banjo no abslutely 23:01:49
Dazzozo use an SSD 23:01:57
Haran_Banjo I can be faster than an SSD 23:02:13
Dazzozo unless you want to invest in a ton of RAM 23:02:15
Haran_Banjo with lots of ram 23:02:17
Dazzozo of course you can 23:02:23
Haran_Banjo te problem is understand how much RAM you really need 23:03:05
Dazzozo I doubt you can be faster than SSD + ccache though 23:03:06
Dazzozo honestly 23:03:20
Haran_Banjo consider that in order to compile a source project, you need to read it at least one time, so you walk the slow IO part at least one time 23:03:51
Haran_Banjo better to do it in batch mode, by copy a whole lot of files on ram, say, 1 GB 23:04:18
Dazzozo but you still have the IO issue copying in to RAM 23:04:58
Haran_Banjo then start compiling in ram, the output may be 500MB? 1GB? I don't care...I have say, 10GB available for compilation 23:05:01
Haran_Banjo you always have to move code from HDD to RAM, so there's no point there 23:05:22
Haran_Banjo after finishing compilation, you move the output to hdd again 23:05:58
Haran_Banjo I think that pipelining this workflow you can speed up a lot the whole compilation 23:06:35
Dazzozo so what are we saying here? remove ccache? 23:06:38
Haran_Banjo no, ccache os orthogonal 23:06:46
Haran_Banjo is 23:06:48
Dazzozo i dont understand what you're asking me to compare 23:06:52
Dazzozo so you want to load the entire cache in to ram? 23:07:04
Dazzozo because you will have to 23:07:10
Haran_Banjo it just saves you recompiling an already compiled source code 23:07:17
Dazzozo if you want to go ram-only 23:07:17
Dazzozo but if ccache isnt on ram 23:07:28
Dazzozo you're reading from hdd 23:07:34
Haran_Banjo I'm not saying to move eveything to ram: ofcourse you cannot becouse you need something like 50GB 23:08:17
Dazzozo yes 23:08:26
cybojenix 30 23:08:27
Dazzozo but if you're going to continue to use ccache 23:08:30
Dazzozo you need to have the cache SOMEWHERE 23:08:35
Dazzozo so 23:08:41
Dazzozo if you don't want 50gb RAM 23:08:44
Dazzozo it has to be on HDD 23:08:46
Dazzozo which means you have a HDD read 23:08:49
Haran_Banjo yes, but you don't work on 50GB at the same time? do you? so what I'm saying is to work on ram at say, 5-6GB at a time 23:09:31
cybojenix No 23:09:41
cybojenix Daz is right. The 23:10:05
cybojenix Bottleneck is the hhd 23:10:06
Haran_Banjo you always have to read source files in order to compile them, so better to do the read in batch 23:10:08
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Dazzozo but this is about ccache 23:10:32
Dazzozo if you're using ccache the cache needs to be somewhere 23:10:41
Dazzozo and it needs to be available 23:10:43
Haran_Banjo no, you are saying this is about ccache 23:10:46
Dazzozo yes, i was asking 23:10:53
Haran_Banjo ccache mybe on hdd or in ram, desn't matter where 23:10:57
Dazzozo are we keeping or removing ccache 23:10:58
Dazzozo thats what im asking 23:11:03
cybojenix Don't send ccache to ram 23:11:04
Haran_Banjo no you keep ccache 23:11:05
Dazzozo so if you keep it 23:11:10
Dazzozo and its on hdd 23:11:12
Dazzozo you have a hdd read 23:11:14
Dazzozo when you try to compare the source file 23:11:17
Dazzozo which you've already copied in to ram 23:11:21
Dazzozo against its preprocessed output 23:11:26
Dazzozo which is on the hdd 23:11:33
Haran_Banjo move ccche on ram 23:12:26
Haran_Banjo read 5GB of sources 23:12:38
Haran_Banjo that is, move them to ram 23:12:49
Haran_Banjo now start compilining, rading from ram 23:13:12
Dazzozo so 23:13:31
cybojenix That would be slower 23:13:33
Dazzozo what you're saying is 23:13:33
Dazzozo yeah 23:13:38
Haran_Banjo save the output of your builing with ccache in order to reuse it in uture 23:13:38
Haran_Banjo go straight till you compile the first project 23:14:00
Dazzozo this boils down to "when should we read the source files" 23:14:09
Haran_Banjo only now you move the output of the project to hdd 23:14:23
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Haran_Banjo it depends on how much work you can do in parallel 23:14:58
Haran_Banjo and this amount work depend on GB of RAM and # of cpus 23:15:19
Dazzozo yeah 23:15:25
Dazzozo its just 23:15:26
Dazzozo which bottleneck are you going to hit first 23:15:30
Haran_Banjo consider that you can hide the IO bottleneck of the disk 23:15:55
cybojenix You can't 23:16:07
Haran_Banjo during compilation 23:16:10
Haran_Banjo that is 23:16:17
Haran_Banjo at the beginiing , you start coping say, 4 projects, tot 4GB of sources 23:17:00
Haran_Banjo our cpu are idling, 23:17:05
Haran_Banjo as soon as the first project has been copied to ram, you start compiling it 23:17:22
Haran_Banjo during compilation, you still move the second project from HDD to ram, while CPU is still compiling the frst project 23:17:58
cybojenix where does the output go? 23:18:17
cybojenix All the objects and binaries 23:18:28
Haran_Banjo at some time, CPU ends compiling the first project and start compiling the second 23:18:33
Dazzozo honestly, i think any difference is negligible 23:18:35
Dazzozo at some point you're reading from disk 23:18:43
Haran_Banjo of coure you are 23:18:50
Dazzozo if you want a bottleneck, I'm not sure but apps used to build single threaded 23:19:03
Dazzozo i dunno if thats still the case 23:19:26
Haran_Banjo but you save a lot of cache-miss on CPU, batching IO also improve overall throughput 23:19:51
Dazzozo you're basically saying "lets copy a bunch of stuff to RAM" 23:19:57
Dazzozo instead of "lets copy a few things to RAM" 23:20:04
Dazzozo eventually you've copied it all to RAM 23:20:08
Haran_Banjo (my example was about a single cpu, but ou can extend it to multiple projects being compiled a the same time, like it is now) 23:20:20
Haran_Banjo exactly 23:20:28
Dazzozo but how is it faster? 23:20:40
Haran_Banjo becouse first it's a whole better to batch IO from hdd rather then doing the copy file by file with compilations in between 23:21:28
cybojenix It would only be effective with multiple builds. But then the cpu is the bottleneck 23:21:29
Dazzozo we're not "bottlenecking" by waiting for the rest of a module to copy 23:21:32
Haran_Banjo you're bottlenecking the sata bus, the memory bus 23:21:55
Dazzozo if you copied the entire module you would be waiting for the whole thing to copy 23:22:05
Haran_Banjo and god know how much other things in order to interleave radings and compilation 23:22:29
Haran_Banjo just at the beginning daz 23:22:44
Dazzozo so? 23:22:52
Haran_Banjo you just wait the time to copy t ram the first project 23:22:56
Dazzozo no you dont 23:23:03
Dazzozo you wait for it throughout the build 23:23:09
Haran_Banjo not at all 23:23:18
Dazzozo IO doesnt take place by itself 23:23:21
Haran_Banjo becouse it takes a lot more to compile an entire project rather then copying it to ram 23:23:43
Dazzozo so what assumptions are you making about the current build system? 23:24:08
Dazzozo that we do everything on a single thread and wait for all IO? 23:24:15
Haran_Banjo no 23:24:34
Haran_Banjo but you just parallelize the single compilation unit 23:24:55
Haran_Banjo actually a compilation unit is done by hdd->ram, compilation, ram->hdd 23:25:09
Haran_Banjo you have first and third staged that are IO-bounded 23:25:23
Dazzozo no it doesnt 23:25:25
Haran_Banjo and only the second stage to be CPU-bounde 23:25:33
Dazzozo everything is parallelised 23:25:41
Haran_Banjo yes, but how? 23:25:49
Dazzozo what do you mean how? 23:25:55
Haran_Banjo you invoke gcc on files that are on hdd right? 23:26:08
Dazzozo yes 23:26:15
Haran_Banjo so for eery gcc invocation 23:26:20
Haran_Banjo you do: hdd->ram, compilation, ram-hdd 23:26:31
Dazzozo as opposed to 23:26:37
Dazzozo a lot of hdd->ram 23:26:40
Dazzozo for a long time 23:26:42
Dazzozo and then compilation 23:26:45
Dazzozo and then a lot of ram->hdd 23:26:50
Dazzozo for a long time 23:26:51
Dazzozo i actually think that way is slower 23:26:56
Haran_Banjo no, yu pipeline them 23:27:07
Haran_Banjo you do lots f hdd->ram 23:27:16
cybojenix Theres also ram to ram, then back again 23:27:25
Dazzozo thats negligible tbh 23:27:35
Haran_Banjo say, 5projects 23:27:36
Dazzozo and we're simplifying here 23:27:47
Haran_Banjo then start compiling the first project 23:27:58
Haran_Banjo once you finished to do hdd->ram 23:28:08
cybojenix You're utilizing the ram more than usual so it takes effect 23:28:09
Dazzozo but we're not just running gcc once 23:28:28
Haran_Banjo you can start doing ram->hdd if compilation has finished a project or just do another bunch of hdd->ram 23:28:54
Dazzozo but thats not necessary 23:29:03
Dazzozo and its not going to be beneficial 23:29:13
Dazzozo compared to the current system 23:29:19
Haran_Banjo do you know how nvidia CUDA works? or openCL? 23:29:53
Dazzozo yes 23:31:40
Dazzozo that doesnt particularly apply here though 23:31:44
Dazzozo we're currently running in parallel 23:32:07
Dazzozo we go from running in parallel 23:32:12
Dazzozo to running in parallel 23:32:14
Dazzozo there is no gain or loss 23:32:17
Haran_Banjo actually it does if you consider io-bound computation r io-bound computation 23:33:19
Dazzozo but you've set up a system where 23:33:38
Dazzozo the IO is busy 23:33:40
Haran_Banjo in nvidia case, you have a very fast GPU that must be fed throuh slow IO channel 23:33:43
Dazzozo and the cpu is busy 23:33:43
Dazzozo and in the current system 23:33:48
Dazzozo we have the IO busy 23:33:52
Dazzozo and the cpu busy 23:33:53
Haran_Banjo the IO may be less busy if you batch the copies 23:34:42
Haran_Banjo that's my point 23:34:50
cybojenix But then there's the waiting period 23:35:06
Dazzozo i still think there's a negligible difference 23:35:25
Haran_Banjo also cpu may be more effective (les cache-misses) if you keep it working on the same data, or at least on data that is near eachother 23:35:39
Haran_Banjo well, it may be negligible on an ssd effectlively 23:36:05
Haran_Banjo but I'm on a 5400 rpm hdd..and feel all the pain of this setup 23:36:23
Dazzozo i dont know 23:36:37
Haran_Banjo compilation cmplete by the way 23:36:38
Dazzozo why do you want the IO less busy? 23:36:40
Dazzozo isnt the whole point of your system 23:36:47
Dazzozo to get the IO for one project done 23:36:53
Dazzozo start the compilation 23:36:55
Dazzozo so the IO can move on to the next project? 23:37:00
Dazzozo the IO is constantly busy in both setups 23:37:09
Dazzozo thats great 23:37:11
Dazzozo if the IO is always going to be the bottleneck 23:37:33
Dazzozo you always want it busy 23:37:35
Dazzozo why add artificial delay 23:37:39
Haran_Banjo fficial&client=firefox-a&channel=fflb#channel=fflb&q=nvidia+cuda+astream+pipeling&rls=org.mozilla:it%3Aofficial&safe=off">https://www.google.com/search?q=nvidia+cuda+astream&ie=utf-8&oe=utf-8&aq=t&rls=org.mozilla:itfficial&client=firefox-a&channel=fflb#channel=fflb&q=nvidia+cuda+astream+pipeling&rls=org.mozilla:it%3Aofficial&safe=off slide five 23:37:41
Dazzozo am i looking at the first result 23:37:57
Haran_Banjo sorry: http://on-demand.gputechconf.com/gtc-express/2011/presentations/StreamsAndConcurrencyWebinar.pdf 23:38:17
cybojenix What are you going to do for the processes after the compilation. Dex's. Linking. Because the io is busy it's going to go slow again 23:39:43
Haran_Banjo no, coping 20MB 2kB at a time is different than copying 20MB in a single run 23:39:52
Dazzozo what you've shown me here is an efficient use of threads 23:40:02
Dazzozo but 23:40:08
Dazzozo the current build system is not like the serial example 23:40:21
Haran_Banjo no, read better especially the 5th slide 23:40:30
Haran_Banjo yu have h->g and g->h the slow path 23:40:42
Haran_Banjo *g -> d 23:41:09
Dazzozo im not convinced :| 23:42:33
Dazzozo lol 23:42:34
Dazzozo i can understand a setup like that being useful in some cases 23:43:00
Dazzozo but i think its a negligible difference in this use case 23:43:23
Dazzozo implement it and show me 23:44:15
Dazzozo 23:44:17
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Haran_Banjo I think it may be beneficial, don't know how much however, especiall with nowadays SDD 23:45:15
Haran_Banjo how does the whole -j handling work? 23:45:38
Haran_Banjo is it script based or is specific to the make binary? 23:45:53
Dazzozo the latter 23:47:10
Dazzozo though for sure, there are far worse bottlenecks 23:52:55
Dazzozo than how we should use IO 23:53:06
Haran_Banjo I was taking a look at the build/core directory 23:54:13
Haran_Banjo seems aramaic to me 23:54:29
Haran_Banjo lol 23:54:31
Haran_Banjo let say I just believe in you and just forget the "implement it and show me" part 23:56:36
Dazzozo Haran_Banjo: http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=yDdwcNU_Xyo#t=6m30s 23:59:14
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