that's bad it does not boot up
now what?@178.79.46.121] vstoupil do místnosti. and this phone works for me, so buying a new one isn't that neededGenerated: 21.01.2025 23:17:20. Messages: 1254
Expected startup is about 10.2.2014
| SilvesterBot | Starting build #144 for job android | 00:00:49 |
| SilvesterBot | Project android build #144: SUCCESS in 29 min: http://jenkins.thebronasium.com/job/android/144/ | 00:30:06 |
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| Dazzozo | http://www.androidpolice.com/2013/09/19/focal-camera-app-removed-from-cyanogenmod-xplodwild-leaves-the-project-first-major-casualty-of-incorporating/ | 01:40:23 |
| Dazzozo | OUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUCHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHH | 01:40:26 |
| Dazzozo | that stings | 01:40:48 |
| Dazzozo | this is not about app instability at all thats for sure | 01:48:46 |
| Dazzozo | its not stable because he doesnt work on the app anymore | 01:49:17 |
| Dazzozo | because of conflict | 01:49:24 |
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| Dazzozo | >the community is our greatest asset | 01:58:01 |
| Dazzozo | >shit over it because it doesnt want to feed your kids with its work | 01:58:19 |
| Dazzozo | I hate how members of the CM team try to defend themselves with decisions | 02:13:55 |
| Dazzozo | and allegations | 02:14:11 |
| Dazzozo | "you really think we would do that" or "after all we've done" etc | 02:14:24 |
| Dazzozo | well, are you going to confirm or deny it or what | 02:14:47 |
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| djuroue | mornin | 05:59:11 |
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| cybojenix-away | Uživatel „cybojenix-away“ je nyní znám jako cybojenix. | 08:02:46 |
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| rymate1234 | Ββββββββ | 08:33:43 |
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| tilal6991 | Dazzozo: https://plus.google.com/106978520009932034644/posts | 10:04:36 |
| tilal6991 | This makes me sad |
10:04:41 |
| cybojenix-away | Uživatel „cybojenix-away“ je nyní znám jako cybojenix. | 10:11:07 |
| Eloimuns | Uživatel Eloimuns [~eloimuns@209.pool85-55-229.dynamic.orange.es] vstoupil do místnosti. | 10:22:09 |
| Solitary | tilal6991, wow... so now we know how they want to make money... by fucking everyone over | 10:28:43 |
| tilal6991 | Seems that way | 10:29:03 |
| modacouserr | Uživatel modacouserr [0251df1c@gateway/web/freenode/ip.2.81.223.28] vstoupil do místnosti. | 10:29:31 |
| Solitary | now the NSA backdoor doesnt seem to be that much of a sci-fi ... shipping different code from public one | 10:29:37 |
| modacouserr | hey | 10:29:57 |
| Solitary | hi | 10:30:07 |
| modacouserr | what's up? | 10:30:17 |
| Uživatel „Eloimuns“ opustil místnost (Quit: Read error: Connection reset by peer). | 10:30:31 | |
| Solitary | modacouserr, just some CM bullshit | 10:36:13 |
| modacouserr | hmmm, i wonder what so amazing things are they planning | 10:38:23 |
| Solitary | https://plus.google.com/106978520009932034644/posts | 10:42:28 |
| Solitary | not much | 10:42:49 |
| cybojenix | http://viewer.zmags.com/publication/add29178 | 10:43:26 |
| Solitary | cybojenix, I always wonder, who had that idea to make digital content and put it into magazine look-a-like provided by flash | 10:47:11 |
| cybojenix | would be better in html5 | 10:47:36 |
| Solitary | why not just make it into web content? | 10:47:38 |
| Solitary | magazine form is not outdated just because of the paper | 10:48:16 |
| Solitary | but because you have to list through it, you can't easily search through it | 10:48:40 |
| cybojenix | you can still get the animations without having to use flash | 10:49:08 |
| Solitary | well, the flash is just one part of the problem | 10:49:26 |
| Solitary | the animation itself is what bothers me... | 10:49:52 |
| cybojenix | yeah I know. I've been reading up on it all over the last few weeks | 10:49:56 |
| cybojenix | the animation is fine | 10:50:04 |
| cybojenix | however this is actually badly done.. | 10:50:21 |
| cybojenix | they have a page per side of the magazine, with an intro animation | 10:50:43 |
| cybojenix | at least it offers it's own search function (even if it is slow) | 10:51:08 |
| Solitary | why not just web page? | 10:52:20 |
| Solitary | why the need to have some sort of magazine animation? | 10:52:37 |
| cybojenix | why have any styling | 10:52:48 |
| cybojenix | can just have it all in raw form. | 10:52:56 |
| Solitary | this is not really a styling, is it... | 10:52:59 |
| Solitary | we are on the internet after all | 10:53:07 |
| Solitary | we have the technology! | 10:53:15 |
| cybojenix | then why not have the animation? | 10:53:27 |
| Solitary | so we make it look like a paper magazine which you have to rifle through | 10:53:29 |
| Solitary | because it's useless, slow, and basically tries to apply old outdated forms | 10:54:11 |
| Solitary | paper magazines or news were in that form, because they are from paper, so book form is the best what was invented... there is no real and good reason to do it on the internet | 10:55:05 |
| cybojenix | there are buttons on the bottom. maybe it's optimised for touch screens | 10:55:29 |
| Solitary | it's just inconvinient | 10:55:32 |
| Solitary | where do you run nonflash version? | 10:56:19 |
| Solitary | or did I misunderstood what you said | 10:56:44 |
| cybojenix | already said about the flash thing. it should be entirely in html | 10:56:46 |
| cybojenix | there is nothing there that can't be in html | 10:57:09 |
| Solitary | oh, I misunderstood then... "you can still get the animations without having to use flash" ... i thought you meant the page | 10:57:14 |
| Solitary | of course | 10:57:23 |
| Solitary | I am very patiently waiting for Mozilla Shumway | 10:57:48 |
| cybojenix | .g shumway | 10:57:58 |
| cybojenix | urgh | 10:58:02 |
| cybojenix | oh ok | 10:58:17 |
| Solitary | http://mozilla.github.io/shumway/ | 10:58:33 |
| cybojenix | yeah | 10:58:44 |
| Solitary | at this point it can do some little stuff, usually still with rendering or functionality errors, but they are moving fast | 10:59:13 |
| cybojenix | yeah | 10:59:24 |
| cybojenix | I want to start looking at app developement for firefox os | 10:59:35 |
| Solitary | I even saw youtube running, but couldn't reproduce it... even build my own firefox for it, still nothing... must be some more magic around it | 11:00:02 |
| cybojenix | yeah | 11:00:12 |
| Solitary | are you into html5 platform? | 11:00:18 |
| cybojenix | tbh, youtube is moving to html5 now | 11:00:20 |
| Solitary | youtube is moving to html5 for quite a long time | 11:00:35 |
| cybojenix | I'm getting there. learning the basics of the three | 11:00:38 |
| Solitary | they still have that html5 trial | 11:00:43 |
| cybojenix | as soon as the html5 testing came out, I was using it | 11:00:52 |
| Solitary | which only allows non-ad videos to be run wit html5 | 11:00:59 |
| Solitary | anything with ads in it needs flash | 11:01:11 |
| cybojenix | yeah | 11:01:15 |
| Solitary | and most of worthwhile content has ads... or would have, if I haven't used adblocker like it was end of the world | 11:01:54 |
| Solitary | |
11:02:02 |
| cybojenix | adblockers are the savior. | 11:02:06 |
| cybojenix | I know it's wrong to do, but I still use them. | 11:02:19 |
| Solitary | yea, I am kinda sorry that I will not make them revenue, but ads are something that I just can't get through | 11:02:35 |
| cybojenix | not as if they make money from me anyway, I don't click on them | 11:02:36 |
| Solitary | I don't even watch TV, so no ads for me | 11:03:27 |
| cybojenix | I'm learning the django framework atm to implement python into websites | 11:03:33 |
| cybojenix | we record everything, then skip through them | 11:03:41 |
| Solitary | I have a tv... with RPi connected, NFS share and G300 as a remote control |
11:03:45 |
| cybojenix | lol | 11:03:51 |
| cybojenix | gtg | 11:03:59 |
| Solitary | I remember when we recorded movies on VHS, we stopped recording, moved back a little, and then started again... ads insta-cut |
11:04:45 |
| costan | Uživatel costan [costan@adsl-198.176.58.144.tellas.gr] vstoupil do místnosti. | 11:07:38 |
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| Solitary_ | Uživatel Solitary_ [~Solitary@ip-94-112-195-124.net.upcbroadband.cz] vstoupil do místnosti. | 11:24:16 |
| ChanServ | Uživatel „ChanServ“ nastavil režim (Solitary_ +v). | 11:24:16 |
| Solitary_ | Uživatel „Solitary_“ je nyní znám jako Solitary. | 11:24:31 |
| modacouserr | http://www.androidpolice.com/2013/09/19/focal-camera-app-removed-cyanogenmod-developer-xplodwild-leaves-team-first-fallout-incorporating/ | 11:24:32 |
| modacouserr | lol | 11:24:33 |
| modacouserr | one down | 11:24:42 |
| unaszplodrmann | Uživatel unaszplodrmann [~nat@unaszplodrmann.plus.com] vstoupil do místnosti. | 11:34:16 |
| ChanServ | Uživatel „ChanServ“ nastavil režim (unaszplodrmann +v). | 11:34:16 |
| unaszplodrmann | Dazzozo: You broke my phone! |
11:35:04 |
| unaszplodrmann | I would try to be helpful, but can't get in to look at the logs... best just revert to last nightly I suppose | 11:36:10 |
| Solitary | unaszplodrmann, using 10.2? | 11:44:24 |
| unaszplodrmann | yep, today's nightly | 11:44:53 |
| unaszplodrmann | woke up early and was greeted by update notification, clicked on through and let it update, rolled over and went back to sleep... woke up again, dead battery lol | 11:46:09 |
| Solitary | unaszplodrmann, how's the battery life in idle? on par with 10.1? | 11:47:00 |
| Solitary | not counting today's nightly |
11:47:16 |
| unaszplodrmann | ah, I had adb disabled... that'd be why huh | 11:47:30 |
| unaszplodrmann | much better than 10.1, to the point where I'm wondering what/if Daz has done to reduce battery drain | 11:49:08 |
| Solitary | really? | 11:49:38 |
| Solitary | no placebo effect I hope |
11:49:47 |
| Solitary | 10.1 drained my battery after 2.5days of just sitting on the table | 11:50:09 |
| unaszplodrmann | same setup, same usage patterns | 11:50:18 |
| rymate1234 | I think there's a new kernel, not entirely sure though | 11:50:24 |
| unaszplodrmann | same here | 11:50:56 |
| unaszplodrmann | with normal usage, I'm lucky to get about 24-28 hours | 11:51:23 |
| Solitary | 10.1 ? | 11:51:32 |
| unaszplodrmann | yep | 11:51:40 |
| Solitary | and 10.2 ? | 11:51:44 |
| rymate1234 | wow | 11:51:45 |
| rymate1234 | I wish I got 28 hours :'( | 11:52:05 |
| unaszplodrmann | and then with 10.2, first thing I noticed was battery at about 75% after 12 hours, including 2 hours of music listening (which is more than usual) | 11:52:27 |
| Solitary | 75% after 12h means 50% after 24h that's bad |
11:53:01 |
| Solitary | I noticed that 10.1 drained (at its best) proximately 1% per 1hour | 11:53:28 |
| Solitary | but more like 30% in 24h | 11:53:39 |
| rymate1234 | With cm10.2? | 11:53:52 |
| Solitary | without any touching, no wifi, no nothing | 11:54:00 |
| Solitary | didn't bother trying 10.2 | 11:54:09 |
| Solitary | I went back to CM9 | 11:54:27 |
| unaszplodrmann | yeah, my app setup probably hurt quite a bit | 11:54:45 |
| rymate1234 | Solitary: How is 50% in 24 hours bad? | 11:54:52 |
| Solitary | with just 2hours of listening music? | 11:55:02 |
| Solitary | that's bad | 11:55:07 |
| rymate1234 | I'm lucky to get 50% over 2 hours |
11:55:15 |
| unaszplodrmann | depends how frequently you wish to, or can, charge | 11:55:21 |
| unaszplodrmann | rymate1234, that isn't just bad, that's unusable as a mobile device lol | 11:55:53 |
| Solitary | rymate1234, in your comparison it might be nice, but G300 is capable to go for a week and some more on battery with idle/music | 11:55:57 |
| rymate1234 | ..yeah | 11:56:03 |
| rymate1234 | Wait no I was exaggerating | 11:56:44 |
| rymate1234 | I'm down to 45% in 5 hours | 11:56:57 |
| rymate1234 | With literally no usage | 11:57:02 |
| rymate1234 | Apart from 1/2 hour tethering to iPad on a bus journey | 11:57:16 |
| Solitary | that's unusable | 11:57:18 |
| rymate1234 | yeah | 11:57:35 |
| Solitary | I was mad with that 1% per hour deal | 11:57:39 |
| rymate1234 | I don't go out much though | 11:57:47 |
| rymate1234 | I'm at school at the moment | 11:57:52 |
| rymate1234 | When I do go out, I take a second battery :> | 11:58:05 |
| Solitary | I remember that I got like 1% per 8hours with some ROM (I am not sure if it was CM9 or some older) | 11:58:11 |
| Solitary | non-CM ROM | 11:58:27 |
| rymate1234 | Solitary: What do you do on your phone? | 11:58:36 |
| rymate1234 | I typically browse the web and / or use irc | 11:59:14 |
| Solitary | mostly music (when I go shopping etc.), few calls (like 30mins a week), wifi | 11:59:17 |
| rymate1234 | Maybe the odd phone call or text | 11:59:37 |
| Dazzozo | back | 11:59:39 |
| rymate1234 | Used to use it for music but i don't have headphones at the moment that work with my phone | 12:00:19 |
| rymate1234 | I got these knockoff apple headphones that only work right on my iPad | 12:00:56 |
| Solitary | rymate1234, now I am at 27% after 3days, I think I did 30mins of calling with that, nonstop wifi, some browsing, maybe a little of 2D gaming (like 15mins) | 12:01:00 |
| rymate1234 | I wish I got that battery life |
12:01:31 |
| rymate1234 | Can't wait to get a y300 | 12:01:37 |
| Dazzozo | whats this about battery life? my scrollback = rip | 12:03:16 |
| Solitary | if I would buy something I would try that Blade V, seems good for that price | 12:03:19 |
| Dazzozo | does today's nightly suck or something? | 12:03:26 |
| unaszplodrmann | it kills phones | 12:03:41 |
| unaszplodrmann | ... | 12:03:46 |
| unaszplodrmann | lol | 12:03:48 |
| Dazzozo | wait | 12:03:49 |
| Dazzozo | wat. | 12:03:49 |
| Dazzozo | I changed nothing | 12:04:00 |
| unaszplodrmann | nah... | 12:04:00 |
| rymate1234 | wat | 12:04:00 |
| Dazzozo | absolutely nothing | 12:04:05 |
| unaszplodrmann | theres something very wrong with it though | 12:04:11 |
| Dazzozo | nightlies won't use the new kernel for some time | 12:04:14 |
| unaszplodrmann | I didn't have adb aenabled, and no-one posted anything useful on the forums, but it doesn't boot up to home screen anyway | 12:04:53 |
| Solitary | unaszplodrmann, just a quick question... why do you think that nightly is the culprit? Just because it died after the update? | 12:04:55 |
| rymate1234 | unaszplodrmann: What's the issue? | 12:04:56 |
| rymate1234 | Oh | 12:05:00 |
| Solitary | oh it does not boot up |
12:05:18 |
| rymate1234 | unaszplodrmann: can't you flash the previous nightly | 12:05:26 |
| unaszplodrmann | yeah, I was just taking the piss.. | 12:05:35 |
| Dazzozo | the last change I made to anything in the stable stuff is https://github.com/Dazzozo/android_kernel_huawei_u8815/commit/9c6c746bfe35e887dd5529b3843e1c0d7c0dbe16 | 12:05:40 |
| unaszplodrmann | yeah, I did | 12:05:44 |
| Dazzozo | and thats 4 days ago | 12:05:51 |
| unaszplodrmann | yeah, I read the changelogs | 12:06:14 |
| unaszplodrmann | odd innit | 12:06:23 |
| rymate1234 | DAMMIT CYANOGENMOD(R) | 12:06:35 |
| unaszplodrmann | notice the large difference is size between last two nightlies | 12:06:43 |
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| rymate1234 | (╯°□°)╯︵ ┻━┻ | 12:07:34 |
| Solitary | lol | 12:08:06 |
| Solitary | unaszplodrmann, probably heisenbug | 12:08:14 |
| unaszplodrmann | just don't read the forums today, unless you want to trawl through lots cm10.2 y u no boot posts lol | 12:08:43 |
| Solitary | |
12:08:58 |
| rymate1234 | xE | 12:09:40 |
| rymate1234 | |
12:09:42 |
| Dazzozo | yeah | 12:10:13 |
| Dazzozo | they removed focal | 12:10:16 |
| Dazzozo | but does focal account for 14mb | 12:10:20 |
| Dazzozo | maybe | 12:10:27 |
| Dazzozo | idk | 12:10:29 |
| unaszplodrmann | sec | 12:10:32 |
| Dazzozo | actually | 12:10:33 |
| Dazzozo | yeah | 12:10:34 |
| Dazzozo | definitely | 12:10:36 |
| Dazzozo | it has a ton of libs and shit | 12:10:39 |
| unaszplodrmann | really? lol | 12:10:41 |
| Dazzozo | it has a TON of shit | 12:10:46 |
| Dazzozo | https://github.com/CyanogenMod/android_external_Focal | 12:10:59 |
| Dazzozo | https://github.com/CyanogenMod/android_packages_apps_Focal | 12:11:10 |
| rymate1234 | Focal confirmed for shit | 12:12:28 |
| unaszplodrmann | aye, lots of stuff pulled in for post-processing | 12:13:01 |
| unaszplodrmann | gtg - work time :/ I'd say I'll grab logcat, but no time reflash today's nightly... | 12:14:50 |
| unaszplodrmann | ... and yeah, its prolly heisenbug ^^ lol | 12:15:01 |
| Dazzozo | have fun lol | 12:15:38 |
| modacouserr | dazzozo: is there a build for us to test the new kernel? |
12:23:38 |
| Dazzozo | no | 12:23:43 |
| Dazzozo | its not something you want to test | 12:23:48 |
| modacouserr | hmm ok |
12:23:55 |
| Dazzozo | its nowhere near that stage | 12:24:00 |
| modacouserr | yeah, maybe not in the meaning of the word |
12:24:09 |
| modacouserr | im very happy with latest nightlyes | 12:24:22 |
| modacouserr | is there any news about 4.4? never heard of it again since the day google got the new garden thing | 12:25:43 |
| modacouserr | wooo, google has office app now lol gonna try it | 12:26:27 |
| modacouserr | dazzozo: remember me saying that mms wasn't being received without activating 3g? | 12:27:35 |
| Dazzozo | yeah | 12:27:40 |
| modacouserr | it's all goo dnow | 12:27:43 |
| modacouserr | good now | 12:27:45 |
| Dazzozo | as of when? | 12:27:48 |
| Dazzozo | today's nightly? | 12:27:52 |
| modacouserr | maybe in the first ones it was already ok, i only tryed it yesterday with 1609 | 12:28:28 |
| Dazzozo | "The real problem is how they handled the incorporation: keeping the community, including most contributors, in the dark, was a dick move that will bite them back in the ass. | 12:34:17 |
| Dazzozo | Transparency is key in open source projects." | 12:34:17 |
| Dazzozo | gotta agree with that | 12:34:20 |
| Dazzozo | https://plus.google.com/106978520009932034644/posts/L8FJkrcahPs | 12:35:34 |
| tilal6991 | Dazzozo: https://plus.google.com/106978520009932034644/posts makes me sad | 12:43:08 |
| tilal6991 | |
12:43:11 |
| Dazzozo | fuck CM | 12:43:15 |
| Dazzozo | i'm done | 12:43:16 |
| Dazzozo | fuck it | 12:43:16 |
| Dazzozo | this is enough | 12:43:19 |
| Dazzozo | https://plus.google.com/u/0/101093310520661581786/posts/1ev1FJpSCE3 | 12:43:22 |
| Dazzozo | read this | 12:43:23 |
| Dazzozo | and the commentsd | 12:43:24 |
| Dazzozo | im fucking done | 12:43:27 |
| Dazzozo | fuck them | 12:43:27 |
| Dazzozo | fuuuckk k themmm | 12:43:31 |
| Dazzozo | ending the nightlies | 12:43:33 |
| Dazzozo | fuck them | 12:43:34 |
| tilal6991 | Not happy with how Steve's handled this | 12:45:27 |
| tilal6991 | Dazzozo: +Ibrahim Awwal +Obi Hörnchen It was Andrew who started the bullshitty link between him visiting a funeral and Cyanogen Inc, so it's hard to blame Steve for tastelessness there. Provoking was the sole intent of that post; which is what I would call immature. | 12:49:07 |
| tilal6991 | +Guillaume Lesniak I could understand the issues you're having with this whole thing, but why are you dragging false assertions into this? Things like the SD card thing (which actually was merged into the AOSP gallery) or DeviceParts (would CMHW have been adopted that quickly if the DeviceParts link wouldn't have been removed? And it's still possible to ship a standalone DeviceParts app...). | 12:49:07 |
| tilal6991 | I'm also not sure I understand the review process critique. Yes, review is too slow (we're severely lacking review bandwidth), but where are the random -2's you're referring to? | 12:49:07 |
| tilal6991 | +Tapio Valli Exactly. Most people seem to confuse "disable root by default" with "remove root". | 12:49:09 |
| tilal6991 | By Danny Bauman | 12:49:12 |
| tilal6991 | Seems pretty weak to me | 12:49:19 |
| rymate1234 | What's happening | 12:49:35 |
| tilal6991 | rymate1234: CM is properly closing up | 12:49:45 |
| Dazzozo | well looks like im going back to rolling my own AOSP builds when I get my N5 | 12:50:35 |
| tilal6991 | Dazzozo: See Entropy's comments at the end | 12:51:42 |
| tilal6991 | I want to see what his story is | 12:51:54 |
| tilal6991 | I really respect Entropy | 12:52:02 |
| rymate1234 | rip | 12:52:52 |
| rymate1234 | rip cm | 12:52:52 |
| rymate1234 | Also my phone just fell out of my pocket | 12:52:57 |
| rymate1234 | Now my screen is cracked |
12:53:06 |
| Dazzozo | rekt. | 12:53:18 |
| rymate1234 | It's not too bad | 12:53:24 |
| rymate1234 | Not that noticeable | 12:53:31 |
| tilal6991 | I really hope cyanogen and co change their attitude | 12:54:02 |
| rymate1234 | If I hold it at a standard angle of holding a phone it's fine | 12:54:15 |
| rymate1234 | Might invest in a screen protector so it doesn't get worse | 12:54:34 |
| Dazzozo | tilal6991: too late | 12:54:54 |
| Dazzozo | theyre gonna lose the community anyways | 12:55:04 |
| Dazzozo | most important asset my ass | 12:55:08 |
| Dazzozo | they treated it like shit | 12:55:11 |
| tilal6991 | Yeah I hope they do if they don't change the attitude | 12:55:20 |
| tilal6991 | What I'm worried is people will keep contributing even though they don't change | 12:56:05 |
| Dazzozo | of course... | 12:56:17 |
| Dazzozo | but all of their major long term contributors | 12:56:28 |
| Dazzozo | are gonna hop | 12:56:37 |
| rymate1234 | Oh shit the cracks are growing wtf | 12:56:42 |
| tilal6991 | Dazzozo: I do hope so | 12:56:54 |
| rymate1234 | Oh no | 12:57:25 |
| rymate1234 | All these cracks over the front camera | 12:57:38 |
| rymate1234 | The horror | 12:57:40 |
| tilal6991 | Lol | 12:57:44 |
| tilal6991 | You need a new phone | 12:57:51 |
| Dazzozo | if they'd done a mozilla | 12:58:16 |
| Dazzozo | i would love them more than ever | 12:58:20 |
| Dazzozo | but no | 12:58:23 |
| tilal6991 | Yeah agreed | 12:58:38 |
| tilal6991 | Mozilla would have been excellent | 12:58:49 |
| tilal6991 | Even if they'd done a Google I think I would have been OK | 12:58:59 |
| tilal6991 | But why relicense Focal in that case? | 12:59:08 |
| Dazzozo | doesnt focal have to be GPL anyway | 13:00:35 |
| Dazzozo | because of the external stuff it uses? | 13:00:44 |
| tilal6991 | Not if it's dynamically linked | 13:01:31 |
| rymate1234 | tilal6991: It's not too bad | 13:04:35 |
| rymate1234 | I've seen iPhones with worse physical damage | 13:04:48 |
| Dazzozo | "You know what happens when you get paid after the work is done? Your negotiating power is gone and you don't get anywhere near what you deserve for the work. Guillaume even mentioned in the OP that Steve reasons the devs don't deserve "to be rewarded" since they contributed before CM Inc was ever a thing. The "investor pressure" they have is something they took on by choice and without even consult | 13:04:50 |
| Dazzozo | ing the other devs." | 13:04:50 |
| tilal6991 | :/ | 13:05:10 |
| modacouserr | bye bye cm? | 13:06:42 |
| tilal6991 | Yup | 13:07:04 |
| Dazzozo | http://www.reddit.com/r/Android/comments/1mrp1t/how_it_really_is_with_cm_focal_etc/ccc0syl | 13:08:03 |
| rymate1234 | Rip cm | 13:08:24 |
| rymate1234 | So | 13:08:56 |
| rymate1234 | My birthday soon | 13:08:59 |
| rymate1234 | Hopefully I get enough money to fund a y300 | 13:09:16 |
| tilal6991 | Yup | 13:11:29 |
| rymate1234 | Or even a g300 | 13:11:45 |
| Dazzozo | almost no point getting a g300 | 13:12:06 |
| rymate1234 | Or I could miss out on getting lunch for 4 weeks | 13:12:18 |
| rymate1234 | Not like school serves anything decent anyway lol | 13:12:39 |
| Dazzozo | i did something like that once | 13:12:59 |
| Dazzozo | cant remember what for | 13:13:02 |
| tilal6991 | Deleting obsolete path /var/lib/jenkins/jobs/android-experimental/workspace/cm-10.2/external/Focal | 13:13:11 |
| tilal6991 | Deleting obsolete path /var/lib/jenkins/jobs/android-experimental/workspace/cm-10.2/packages/apps/Focal | 13:13:11 |
| tilal6991 | Bye Focal | 13:13:16 |
| Dazzozo | rip. | 13:13:17 |
| rymate1234 | rip | 13:14:02 |
| modacouserr | holy s%$"# now what? |
13:15:05 |
| tilal6991 | Dazzozo: We should fork lol | 13:15:06 |
| adfad666_ | Uživatel adfad666_ [~adfad666@cl-572.prg-01.cz.sixxs.net] vstoupil do místnosti. | 13:15:12 |
| Dazzozo | no | 13:15:12 |
| Dazzozo | we shouldnt | 13:15:13 |
| Dazzozo | because any project we do like that ends up dead | 13:15:19 |
| Dazzozo | look at androidarmv6 now | 13:15:22 |
| tilal6991 | No | 13:15:31 |
| tilal6991 | Because androidarmv6 had a very specific goal | 13:15:41 |
| tilal6991 | Which was fulfilled | 13:15:45 |
| Dazzozo | honestly i dont even want a fork of CM | 13:16:18 |
| Dazzozo | i want CM to just | 13:16:20 |
| Dazzozo | go | 13:16:20 |
| Dazzozo | away | 13:16:22 |
| Dazzozo | and not exist | 13:16:30 |
| tilal6991 | No not CM | 13:16:39 |
| tilal6991 | AOSP | 13:16:41 |
| Dazzozo | man i feel so bitter | 13:17:03 |
| Dazzozo | it feels like | 13:17:11 |
| rymate1234 | I just want AOSP for every device. | 13:17:15 |
| Dazzozo | im FORCED to use CM | 13:17:16 |
| tilal6991 | https://github.com/SlimRoms | 13:17:16 |
| Dazzozo | because of the device support | 13:17:20 |
| Dazzozo | its like buying in to an ecosystem and trying to move away from it | 13:17:35 |
| tilal6991 | Lol | 13:17:51 |
| tilal6991 | Dazzozo: The issue is no ROM ATM is as professional as CM is | 13:18:18 |
| tilal6991 | CM's way of doing things is very refined compared to the heavyhandedness of AOKP and co | 13:18:46 |
| rymate1234 | tilal6991: Aosp is better for nexuses | 13:22:04 |
| tilal6991 | No it's not | 13:22:10 |
| tilal6991 | IMHO | 13:22:12 |
| tilal6991 | I need quick settings customization | 13:22:20 |
| Dazzozo | AOSP is all i need really | 13:23:12 |
| rymate1234 | Lmao | 13:23:16 |
| rymate1234 | Teacher just went on a rant about iOS 7 | 13:23:25 |
| tilal6991 | Dazzozo: Yeah but device support | 13:24:42 |
| Dazzozo | dont need it for AOSP | 13:24:53 |
| Dazzozo | and nexus | 13:24:55 |
| tilal6991 | Yeah but other devices lol | 13:25:04 |
| Dazzozo | well i wont care when I have N5 lol | 13:25:14 |
| rymate1234 | Just merge all the device support changes from CM | 13:25:23 |
| tilal6991 | rymate1234: Lol | 13:26:09 |
| rymate1234 | MERGE ALL THE THINGS | 13:26:23 |
| Dazzozo | that said | 13:30:15 |
| Dazzozo | i would totally back a project like that | 13:30:20 |
| Dazzozo | its just i wouldnt personally have a use for it on a device i would be using | 13:30:36 |
| Dazzozo | but it would be useful for the g300 | 13:30:39 |
| Dazzozo | im surprised there is no project thats strictly AOSP + device enablement | 13:31:10 |
| Dazzozo | it would be a great base for other roms | 13:31:28 |
| Dazzozo | and it would be debian-like | 13:31:39 |
| tilal6991 | Dazzozo: Do you want to do that? | 13:31:43 |
| Dazzozo | i would happily work on it | 13:31:49 |
| tilal6991 | I'm downloading AOSP atm | 13:31:54 |
| tilal6991 | And I want to see how much work it takes to get mint working | 13:32:07 |
| tilal6991 | No CM repos | 13:32:13 |
| tilal6991 | Just plain AOSP | 13:32:23 |
| Dazzozo | i doubt it would take a lot to just get it to boot | 13:32:27 |
| Dazzozo | audio and shit would take some work though | 13:32:34 |
| tilal6991 | Yeah agreed | 13:32:38 |
| tilal6991 | display as well | 13:33:07 |
| Dazzozo | i dont know much about display-caf | 13:33:25 |
| tilal6991 | It's just CAF with compatibility patches | 13:35:45 |
| Dazzozo | my N4 should arrive at that guy's house today or tomorrow | 13:37:53 |
| cybojenix | Uživatel „cybojenix“ je nyní znám jako cybojenix-away. | 13:55:23 |
| SilvesterBot | Starting build #145 for job android | 14:00:48 |
| Uživatel „adfad666_“ opustil místnost (Quit: Read error: Connection reset by peer). | 14:00:57 | |
| adfad666_ | Uživatel adfad666_ [~adfad666@cl-572.prg-01.cz.sixxs.net] vstoupil do místnosti. | 14:02:38 |
| Uživatel „adfad666_“ opustil místnost (Quit: Read error: Connection reset by peer). | 14:03:50 | |
| adfad666_ | Uživatel adfad666_ [~adfad666@cl-572.prg-01.cz.sixxs.net] vstoupil do místnosti. | 14:04:23 |
| adfad666__ | Uživatel adfad666__ [~adfad666@cl-572.prg-01.cz.sixxs.net] vstoupil do místnosti. | 14:16:01 |
| Uživatel „adfad666_“ opustil místnost (Quit: Read error: Connection reset by peer). | 14:16:01 | |
| vladax | Uživatel vladax [~vladax@178-223-217-15.dynamic.isp.telekom.rs] vstoupil do místnosti. | 14:17:24 |
| cybojenix-away | Uživatel „cybojenix-away“ je nyní znám jako cybojenix. | 14:25:46 |
| SilvesterBot | Project android build #145: FAILURE in 25 min: http://jenkins.thebronasium.com/job/android/145/ | 14:26:13 |
| Dazzozo | seems like a lot of people are moving away from CM lol | 14:27:46 |
| vladax | |
14:27:59 |
| Dazzozo | the reddit hivemind is anti-CM | 14:28:07 |
| vladax | crazy things | 14:28:11 |
| SilvesterBot | Starting build #146 for job android | 14:28:48 |
| rymate1234 | rip cm | 14:34:19 |
| vladax | |
14:42:04 |
| rymate1234 | http://www.unwiredview.com/2013/09/20/is-htc-cyanogenmods-official-hardware-partner/ | 14:42:22 |
| SilvesterBot | Yippie, build fixed! | 14:43:19 |
| SilvesterBot | Project android build #146: FIXED in 14 min: http://jenkins.thebronasium.com/job/android/146/ | 14:43:20 |
| tilal6991 | Dazzozo: Good | 14:43:49 |
| tilal6991 | I want everyone to move away from CM | 14:43:58 |
| Dazzozo | they'll comment on it later surely | 14:44:09 |
| vladax | My s2 is fucked | 14:44:41 |
| vladax | |
14:44:43 |
| vladax | XplodWild-left | 14:44:53 |
| vladax | David-left | 14:45:04 |
| vladax | .... | 14:45:05 |
| tilal6991 | Has codeworkx left as well? | 14:45:36 |
| Uživatel „SilvesterBot“ opustil místnost (Quit). | 14:45:37 | |
| tilal6991 | Awesome | 14:45:38 |
| vladax | no words | 14:45:55 |
| vladax | from cody | 14:46:00 |
| vladax | yet | 14:46:14 |
| tilal6991 | K | 14:46:18 |
| tilal6991 | Hope he does | 14:46:20 |
| SilvesterBot | Uživatel SilvesterBot [~Silvester@thebronasium.com] vstoupil do místnosti. | 14:46:21 |
| Dazzozo | im doing jenkins updates | 14:46:38 |
| Dazzozo | so | 14:46:41 |
| rymate1234 | wow | 14:46:46 |
| Dazzozo | bot might leave etc | 14:46:49 |
| rymate1234 | Actual rip | 14:46:49 |
| rymate1234 | Not even sarcastic | 14:46:59 |
| rymate1234 | Cm is ripping | 14:47:04 |
| tilal6991 | The person I'm most interested to hear from is arcee | 14:48:07 |
| Dazzozo | why | 14:48:11 |
| Uživatel „SilvesterBot“ opustil místnost (Quit: Client Quit). | 14:48:15 | |
| Dazzozo | arcee is in on this lol | 14:48:15 |
| tilal6991 | He's not in the CM core team is he? | 14:48:17 |
| Dazzozo | he is | 14:48:18 |
| Dazzozo | he works for them ffs | 14:48:20 |
| tilal6991 | Oh screw that then | 14:48:22 |
| vladax | https://plus.google.com/101093310520661581786/posts/1ev1FJpSCE3 | 14:48:38 |
| vladax | seen this? | 14:48:45 |
| Dazzozo | yeah | 14:48:49 |
| Dazzozo | http://cyngn.com/ | 14:48:50 |
| SilvesterBot | Uživatel SilvesterBot [~Silvester@thebronasium.com] vstoupil do místnosti. | 14:48:53 |
| Dazzozo | hes listed | 14:48:55 |
| Dazzozo | oh | 14:49:02 |
| Dazzozo | he isnt anymore | 14:49:04 |
| Dazzozo | wow | 14:49:04 |
| Dazzozo | they removed him | 14:49:06 |
| Dazzozo | he was there yesterday | 14:49:09 |
| Dazzozo | interesting | 14:49:11 |
| Dazzozo | .... |
14:49:13 |
| Dazzozo | oh | 14:49:24 |
| Dazzozo | no hes back | 14:49:25 |
| Dazzozo | what | 14:49:25 |
| Dazzozo | i refreshed | 14:49:27 |
| Dazzozo | and hes back | 14:49:28 |
| Dazzozo | what the fuck is this | 14:49:32 |
| adfad666__ | magic | 14:49:34 |
| vladax | steve is eating popcorns on funeral post :S | 14:49:35 |
| tilal6991 | Lol | 14:49:39 |
| Dazzozo | yeah | 14:49:42 |
| Dazzozo | i have no idea | 14:49:48 |
| Solitary | dick | 14:49:49 |
| Dazzozo | what that was | 14:49:50 |
| rymate1234 | So cm fucked up | 14:49:53 |
| tilal6991 | Big time | 14:50:12 |
| tilal6991 | They've pissed off most of the community it seems | 14:50:22 |
| adfad666__ | nah | 14:50:51 |
| tilal6991 | Dazzozo: Just noticed that the newest nightly for mako 9/20 focal was removed? Is there a reason why? I loved focal. | 14:51:08 |
| adfad666__ | it'll be like when they added the google trackimg stuff, it'll blow over soon | 14:51:08 |
| tilal6991 | Srsly? | 14:51:11 |
| Dazzozo | LOL | 14:51:17 |
| tilal6991 | Where have you been the past day? | 14:51:27 |
| Dazzozo | adfad666__: they removed the tracking stuff... | 14:51:29 |
| Dazzozo | as a result | 14:51:38 |
| Dazzozo | of the shitstorm | 14:51:39 |
| tilal6991 | adfad666__: Unless a big change of attitude is incoming I don't see much hope | 14:51:43 |
| adfad666__ | it was added back differently later though right? | 14:51:51 |
| tilal6991 | No | 14:52:03 |
| Dazzozo | nope. | 14:52:06 |
| Dazzozo | it was only added once | 14:52:11 |
| adfad666__ | oh ok, i though it was | 14:52:13 |
| Dazzozo | and it was removed | 14:52:14 |
| vladax | https://plus.google.com/106978520009932034644/posts/L8FJkrcahPs | 14:52:22 |
| Dazzozo | yes | 14:52:28 |
| Dazzozo | we've seen that, too. | 14:52:31 |
| Dazzozo | in fact the first post was linked from it | 14:52:35 |
| Dazzozo | rule of thumb | 14:52:42 |
| tilal6991 | Lol | 14:52:43 |
| Dazzozo | if you have a link | 14:52:44 |
| vladax | ah sry | 14:52:46 |
| Dazzozo | we've probably seen it already | 14:52:47 |
| adfad666__ | Dazzozo is a link whore | 14:53:02 |
| Dazzozo | |
14:53:09 |
| tilal6991 | codeworkx and Entropy's full story are what I want to hear now | 14:53:44 |
| tilal6991 | I have a lot of respect for both of them | 14:54:12 |
| adfad666__ | why is there a balding man with blue hair on the CM team | 14:54:14 |
| vladax | codeworkx recently moved to a new house,he is very busy with that recently | 14:54:43 |
| adfad666__ | it looks like a normal bunch of folks, then BAM blue hair and big belly | 14:54:49 |
| tilal6991 | Think Red Hat or Mozilla: they're both successful businesses based on open source. | 14:55:36 |
| tilal6991 | THIS ^ | 14:55:38 |
| Dazzozo | CM has pretty much | 14:56:18 |
| Dazzozo | done everything poorly | 14:56:21 |
| Dazzozo | so far | 14:56:22 |
| cybojenix | Uživatel „cybojenix“ je nyní znám jako cybojenix-away. | 14:56:22 |
| Dazzozo | like | 14:56:35 |
| Dazzozo | everything | 14:56:36 |
| cybojenix-away | Uživatel „cybojenix-away“ je nyní znám jako cybojenix. | 14:56:37 |
| Dazzozo | if you could fuck it up | 14:56:38 |
| Dazzozo | CM did | 14:56:39 |
| tilal6991 | Yup | 14:56:55 |
| tilal6991 | Also http://review.cyanogenmod.org/#/c/50180/ | 14:56:59 |
| tilal6991 | Why? | 14:57:01 |
| tilal6991 | Why has the battery bar been rejected every time? | 14:57:10 |
| tilal6991 | In the first instance it was a straight copy of MIUI | 14:57:18 |
| tilal6991 | But after that? | 14:57:24 |
| cybojenix | Uživatel „cybojenix“ je nyní znám jako cybojenix-away. | 14:57:31 |
| Dazzozo | because a few guys in the core team dont use the feature | 14:58:12 |
| Dazzozo | therefore it will never be merged | 14:58:15 |
| cybojenix-away | Uživatel „cybojenix-away“ je nyní znám jako cybojenix. | 14:58:19 |
| Dazzozo | thought you knew this by now tilal6991 | 14:58:24 |
| tilal6991 | Dazzozo: Tnks | 14:58:33 |
| tilal6991 | Just finished downloading AOSP | 14:59:12 |
| Dazzozo | i find it amazing how in any writing steve did about the changes to CM | 14:59:49 |
| Dazzozo | he always talks about | 14:59:53 |
| Dazzozo | "i wouldnt let it happen any other way" | 14:59:57 |
| Dazzozo | "this is what CM is all about" | 15:00:00 |
| Dazzozo | frankly | 15:00:02 |
| Dazzozo | I don't think even YOU know wht CM is about | 15:00:06 |
| Dazzozo | *what | 15:00:09 |
| Dazzozo | and its your fucking project | 15:00:15 |
| Dazzozo | community? you hardly interact with it | 15:00:25 |
| Uživatel „jordilopez94“ opustil místnost (Quit: Ping timeout: 245 seconds). | 15:00:35 | |
| tilal6991 | Yup | 15:00:40 |
| tilal6991 | Apart from -2ing things | 15:00:47 |
| Dazzozo | he spoke once in #cyanogenmod-dev | 15:00:47 |
| Dazzozo | in this year | 15:00:48 |
| Dazzozo | once | 15:00:49 |
| Dazzozo | once. | 15:00:50 |
| adfad666__ | Steve's community is koush and arcee | 15:00:51 |
| tilal6991 | ^^^^^^^^^^^^ | 15:00:57 |
| tilal6991 | And Koush | 15:01:04 |
| tilal6991 | Man | 15:01:05 |
| tilal6991 | He has to be one of the most arrogant people alive | 15:01:16 |
| Dazzozo | the chromecast shit was funny i have to agree | 15:01:36 |
| tilal6991 | Yeah | 15:01:45 |
| jordilopez94 | Uživatel jordilopez94 [~jordilope@77.224.208.20] vstoupil do místnosti. | 15:02:23 |
| Dazzozo | "Not only were these good ideas, they were exactly in line with what CM is all about. What we have with CM could not have happened any other waya huge community came together and created something awesome that did not exist before, because it was needed." | 15:02:57 |
| Dazzozo | is his exact words | 15:03:00 |
| tilal6991 | Then why is he trying to stop that? | 15:03:15 |
| tilal6991 | Ugh | 15:03:21 |
| tilal6991 | So irritating | 15:03:33 |
| tilal6991 | Screw trying to get mint merged for 4.3 | 15:03:54 |
| tilal6991 | IDC anymore | 15:04:01 |
| rymate1234 | welp | 15:04:22 |
| rymate1234 | rip g300 | 15:04:25 |
| rymate1234 | rip crescent | 15:04:28 |
| rymate1234 | rip y300 | 15:04:32 |
| rymate1234 | rip skate | 15:04:35 |
| rymate1234 | rip cm | 15:04:37 |
| Dazzozo | rip everything | 15:04:39 |
| tilal6991 | rip alllllll the things | 15:04:43 |
| tilal6991 | rymate1234: No worries | 15:04:49 |
| rymate1234 | welp thats it guys | 15:04:49 |
| rymate1234 | we might as well get windows phones now | 15:05:00 |
| tilal6991 | Lol | 15:05:03 |
| rymate1234 | tilal6991, no worries about what? | 15:05:20 |
| tilal6991 | Skate dying | 15:05:26 |
| tilal6991 | My mum still uses it | 15:05:30 |
| rymate1234 | oh lol | 15:05:33 |
| tilal6991 | So I'll keep supporting it | 15:05:36 |
| rymate1234 | well IDC about skate any more | 15:05:43 |
| Dazzozo | doing it for mommy | 15:05:50 |
| tilal6991 | Plus I really want to know about kitkat now | 15:05:52 |
| tilal6991 | And how it will affect everything | 15:06:00 |
| rymate1234 | tilal6991, maybe it just means it'll be worldwide | 15:06:25 |
| tilal6991 | Because honestly I think over 50% of CM users are there because they want an almost stock ROM that is in the latest version | 15:06:30 |
| rymate1234 | nexus 5 will be sold everywheere | 15:06:33 |
| tilal6991 | Stock being AOSP not stock manufacturer | 15:06:49 |
| tilal6991 | rymate1234: ahhahahahhahaha | 15:06:55 |
| tilal6991 | Lol | 15:06:56 |
| Dazzozo | i still dont think 4.4 is worth another letter | 15:06:57 |
| Dazzozo | it feels less of an update than 4.1 did | 15:07:04 |
| tilal6991 | That's a ridiculous interpretation | 15:07:05 |
| tilal6991 | Dazzozo: If it solves fragmentation it's worth a 5.0 release | 15:07:20 |
| rymate1234 | well | 15:07:54 |
| Dazzozo | really? | 15:07:58 |
| tilal6991 | Yes | 15:08:01 |
| Dazzozo | is a solution to fragmentation as big of a step up | 15:08:04 |
| Dazzozo | as honeycomb to ics? | 15:08:08 |
| tilal6991 | It might very well be | 15:08:10 |
| tilal6991 | srsly in it's current state a solution to fragmentation looks a long way away | 15:08:31 |
| tilal6991 | Progress has been made (seperating up frameworks/base) but it's still a long way to go | 15:08:51 |
| tilal6991 | If they JUST focused on that this release I'd be happy | 15:09:01 |
| tilal6991 | AOSP done | 15:09:16 |
| Dazzozo | im interested but i seriously dont see what they could do | 15:09:18 |
| tilal6991 | Let's do this | 15:09:19 |
| tilal6991 | Dazzozo: Seperate out the native libs and the framework | 15:09:35 |
| tilal6991 | libandroid_runtime is one of the few links | 15:09:45 |
| Dazzozo | that doesnt stop people running gingerbread | 15:09:47 |
| tilal6991 | Yes | 15:09:50 |
| tilal6991 | SO? | 15:09:52 |
| Dazzozo | thats what fragmentation is. | 15:09:56 |
| tilal6991 | It's the framework that matters to app developers and for the actual OS itself | 15:10:08 |
| tilal6991 | If the libs are GB so be it | 15:10:13 |
| rymate1234 | but | 15:10:13 |
| rymate1234 | you can't replace the framework | 15:10:19 |
| rymate1234 | on a device | 15:10:21 |
| rymate1234 | that's why it's the framework | 15:10:27 |
| tilal6991 | rymate1234: In it's current state yes | 15:10:27 |
| tilal6991 | But who knows what they've done? | 15:10:36 |
| Dazzozo | so what are you actually suggesting? | 15:10:37 |
| Dazzozo | downloadable framework? | 15:10:40 |
| rymate1234 | tilal6991, but | 15:10:41 |
| tilal6991 | Yes | 15:10:43 |
| Dazzozo | thats actually impossible. | 15:10:45 |
| tilal6991 | Not really | 15:10:48 |
| Dazzozo | because of hardware customisation. | 15:10:49 |
| rymate1234 | it won't apply for gingerbread devices | 15:10:53 |
| tilal6991 | Nope | 15:10:54 |
| Dazzozo | you dont know | 15:10:57 |
| tilal6991 | rymate1234: Maybe not | 15:10:59 |
| Dazzozo | whats in the framework already | 15:11:00 |
| Dazzozo | for some devices | 15:11:04 |
| tilal6991 | ICS and later? | 15:11:04 |
| Dazzozo | when gingerbread has 30%? | 15:11:21 |
| tilal6991 | Yeah | 15:11:25 |
| Dazzozo | not a solution to fragmentation | 15:11:26 |
| tilal6991 | GB will slowly die | 15:11:30 |
| Dazzozo | ics is dying faster | 15:11:33 |
| tilal6991 | And in the future no fragmentation | 15:11:37 |
| tilal6991 | It's not a solution to fix what's there | 15:11:45 |
| rymate1234 | but | 15:11:51 |
| tilal6991 | It's a solution to fix the future | 15:11:52 |
| rymate1234 | the problem is | 15:11:54 |
| rymate1234 | the present | 15:11:57 |
| rymate1234 | not the future | 15:12:01 |
| tilal6991 | Yes | 15:12:04 |
| tilal6991 | But the future | 15:12:07 |
| tilal6991 | Will be the present | 15:12:10 |
| rymate1234 | but | 15:12:12 |
| rymate1234 | the reason there's fragmentation now | 15:12:19 |
| rymate1234 | is because 4.x is drastically different to 2.x | 15:12:27 |
| tilal6991 | I'm not sure you guys understand what I'm saying | 15:12:36 |
| rymate1234 | and yet you can still get devices with 2.x | 15:12:37 |
| tilal6991 | I don't think google is trying to solve fragmentation in the current state | 15:12:49 |
| tilal6991 | And I don't think they can | 15:12:55 |
| rymate1234 | once 2.x goes away. unless there's another drastic change fragmentation will no longer exist | 15:13:00 |
| Dazzozo | then the description of kitkat is misleadin g | 15:13:12 |
| Dazzozo | *misleading | 15:13:15 |
| tilal6991 | Meh | 15:13:21 |
| tilal6991 | We'll see | 15:13:24 |
| Dazzozo | "It's our goal with Android KitKat to make an amazing Android experience available for everybody." | 15:13:30 |
| tilal6991 | I'm interested to see what they mean | 15:13:35 |
| Dazzozo | not available to everybody if it cant run on gingerbread devices | 15:13:39 |
| rymate1234 | IT'S ACCESSIBILITY CHANGES | 15:13:48 |
| Dazzozo | LOL | 15:13:52 |
| rymate1234 | CALLING IT NOW | 15:13:52 |
| Dazzozo | that would be pretty funny | 15:14:03 |
| tilal6991 | Well technically it needs to run on donut/froyo as well | 15:14:03 |
| tilal6991 | But that's not going to happen | 15:14:11 |
| rymate1234 | >froyo | 15:14:16 |
| tilal6991 | rymate1234: Might well be that | 15:14:18 |
| Dazzozo | dont they have less than 3% | 15:14:21 |
| Dazzozo | honestly, that can be ignored | 15:14:25 |
| Dazzozo | gingerbread is the real problem | 15:14:29 |
| rymate1234 | there's another issue | 15:14:38 |
| tilal6991 | That's because Samsung | 15:14:39 |
| tilal6991 | They're still selling GB phones | 15:14:46 |
| tilal6991 | STILL | 15:14:48 |
| Dazzozo | not really | 15:14:55 |
| rymate1234 | >convincing gingerbread users to use 4.4 | 15:14:56 |
| tilal6991 | Dazzozo: Yup | 15:15:00 |
| Dazzozo | a lot of people STILL have old htc phones | 15:15:02 |
| rymate1234 | ^ my mum does | 15:15:09 |
| tilal6991 | I know | 15:16:30 |
| tilal6991 | But 'sung is still selling Galaxy aces | 15:16:41 |
| tilal6991 | Dazzozo: Did you fix agl copybits? | 15:17:53 |
| rymate1234 | http://www.carphonewarehouse.com/mobiles/mobile-phones/SAMSUNG_GALAXY_ACE/PPAY?colourCode=BLACK | 15:17:54 |
| rymate1234 | yup | 15:17:59 |
| Dazzozo | oh fuck i forgot | 15:18:04 |
| tilal6991 | TOLD YOU ^ | 15:18:06 |
| rymate1234 | "Inside the Samsung Galaxy Ace is a 1,350mAh battery that powers the phone on standby for up to 420 hours and 6.5 hours for calls. The software in the Ace is Android Gingerbread 2.3, the most popular version, and it still has access to over 850,000 apps. The 800MHz processor is plenty fast enough for most activities, and the 3.5" screen is good for its class. A resolution of 320x480 gives 165 pix | 15:18:13 |
| rymate1234 | els per inch (PPI), while the 5MP camera is also good and sharp. Built-in memory is 158MB, but there's space for a microSD card (sold separately) up to 32GB for more space for photos and your music." | 15:18:13 |
| rymate1234 | my god it's terrible | 15:18:29 |
| Dazzozo | >the most popular version. | 15:18:30 |
| tilal6991 | "Android Gingerbread 2.3, the most popular version," WRONG | 15:18:32 |
| Dazzozo | its funny though | 15:18:37 |
| tilal6991 | Used to be | 15:18:39 |
| Dazzozo | because its close. | 15:18:39 |
| tilal6991 | Not anymore lol | 15:18:41 |
| tilal6991 | Yeah I guess | 15:18:45 |
| rymate1234 | y300 is cheaper guys http://www.carphonewarehouse.com/mobiles/mobile-phones/HUAWEI_Y300/PPAY?colourCode=WHITE | 15:19:02 |
| rymate1234 | but it doesn't samsung | 15:19:06 |
| rymate1234 | so is shit | 15:19:08 |
| tilal6991 | Yup | 15:19:20 |
| tilal6991 | |
15:19:21 |
| tilal6991 | The phone actually ooks pretty good | 15:19:48 |
| tilal6991 | Shame about capacitive keys though | 15:20:02 |
| rymate1234 | so | 15:20:19 |
| Dazzozo | WOW the y300 is cheap | 15:20:44 |
| Dazzozo | didnt think it was that cheap | 15:20:52 |
| Dazzozo | thought it was closer to £100 | 15:20:58 |
| tilal6991 | Yeah that's really cheap | 15:21:19 |
| tilal6991 | Dazzozo: All I'll say about the people creating drama today is that you can either listen to angry rants full of inaccurate information, or you can listen to the guys who have consistently delivered quality stuff for years and who will continue to do so. | 15:22:08 |
| tilal6991 | OH | 15:22:10 |
| tilal6991 | Cyanogen ^ | 15:22:14 |
| Dazzozo | where'd he say that? | 15:22:26 |
| tilal6991 | His G+ | 15:22:45 |
| tilal6991 | Just a few mins ago | 15:22:50 |
| Dazzozo | seems like a cop out | 15:23:30 |
| Dazzozo | again | 15:23:37 |
| Dazzozo | a "you really think we would do that" | 15:23:41 |
| Dazzozo | well, thats what the drama is for | 15:23:48 |
| Dazzozo | are you going to confirm or deny that happened | 15:23:51 |
| tilal6991 | Yup | 15:25:16 |
| Dazzozo | "No single person or even a group of 15 people can take the credit of all the features that are available today." | 15:25:46 |
| Dazzozo | thats a good point. | 15:25:48 |
| Dazzozo | he pretty much just claimed | 15:25:51 |
| Dazzozo | that everything in CM | 15:25:53 |
| Dazzozo | is down to that team | 15:25:55 |
| tilal6991 | Dazzozo: | 15:26:09 |
| tilal6991 | A future conversation with Steve Kondik will reveal that they might need to put hardware-specific enhancement for some camera devices, and that has to be hacked in the Camera app code. [...] Of course, those hardware enhancements are trade secrets, so they cannot be published back to CyanogenMod’s public repositories... | 15:26:09 |
| tilal6991 | That's what worries me the most about a commercial CyanogenMod. It doesn't really matter if they remove a few power-user features or disable root by default - that's what AOKP and PA are for. However, AOKP and PA both depend on CyanogenMod's device trees for hardware support. | 15:26:10 |
| tilal6991 | If CM starts adding closed source bits for certain hardware features to comply with "trade secrets", then "fork it" is no longer an answer. Forks wouldn't be able to just add back in what CM took out, they would have to do to CM what CM has spent years doing to hardware - reverse engineer or reimplement hardware features. And if CM, Inc. starts snatching up the top Android talent, that might be a very hard thing to do. | 15:26:12 |
| Dazzozo | seen it | 15:26:21 |
| tilal6991 | Linux is what CM should be like | 15:28:29 |
| Dazzozo | is Steve going to tell us how the info is inaccurate? | 15:29:18 |
| Dazzozo | is he going to confirm or deny it? | 15:29:22 |
| Dazzozo | no | 15:29:32 |
| Dazzozo | he fucking isnt | 15:29:34 |
| tilal6991 | Koush has struck me as a money first guy since he ripped out a stock launcher (Froyo, I think) and put it on the Market for a price. Shame to see CM spiral down this path. | 15:31:03 |
| tilal6991 | So true | 15:31:06 |
| adfad666__ | lol you guys | 15:32:27 |
| adfad666__ | so much hate | 15:32:31 |
| Dazzozo | i dont hate anything | 15:32:40 |
| Dazzozo | i think steve's response is so typical | 15:32:57 |
| Dazzozo | and im really tired of it | 15:33:02 |
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| tilal6991 | Dazzozo: Starting AOSP for mint | 15:35:04 |
| Dazzozo | lol | 15:35:10 |
| adfad666 | Uživatel adfad666 [adfad666@melon.bnc4free.com] vstoupil do místnosti. | 15:35:17 |
| Uživatel „adfad666“ opustil místnost (Quit: Changing host). | 15:35:22 | |
| adfad666 | Uživatel adfad666 [adfad666@cyanogenmod/maintainer/adfad666] vstoupil do místnosti. | 15:35:23 |
| tilal6991 | Dazzozo: I'm serious about the hardware support thing though | 15:38:15 |
| Dazzozo | it was an idea on reddit a while back | 15:38:41 |
| Dazzozo | and it seemed pretty popular | 15:38:54 |
| tilal6991 | Well I think now might be the time to do it | 15:38:55 |
| Dazzozo | i think its about getting people on board more than anything | 15:38:58 |
| tilal6991 | Well with your awesome power in the android community I'm sure you can manage lol | 15:39:21 |
| Dazzozo | its not a particularly hard project | 15:39:30 |
| tilal6991 | Well yeah | 15:39:36 |
| Dazzozo | it just needs to be popular | 15:39:38 |
| tilal6991 | It's my sort of thing though | 15:39:45 |
| tilal6991 | I'm not good with frameworks/base and settings | 15:39:53 |
| tilal6991 | but HW code | 15:39:56 |
| tilal6991 | That's what I can do | 15:39:59 |
| adfad666 | pretty much all you need to do is fork CAF | 15:40:13 |
| tilal6991 | Integrated kernel build system | 15:40:16 |
| tilal6991 | adfad666: Noooooooooooooooooo | 15:40:19 |
| Dazzozo | no way | 15:40:25 |
| tilal6991 | That's a minefield we DON'T want to enter | 15:40:28 |
| Dazzozo | CAF is a lot more than just MSM support for Android | 15:40:44 |
| Kra1o5 | Uživatel Kra1o5 [~kratos@252.47.218.87.dynamic.jazztel.es] vstoupil do místnosti. | 15:40:46 |
| Kra1o5 | yo | 15:40:54 |
| adfad666 | well, what's the difference with pure CAF and AOSP, apart from hardware support? | 15:40:58 |
| tilal6991 | A lot | 15:41:10 |
| tilal6991 | They add a ton of other code | 15:41:20 |
| Dazzozo | you want an example or something? | 15:41:53 |
| Dazzozo | straight from the CAF repo listing | 15:42:00 |
| Dazzozo | right at the top | 15:42:03 |
| Dazzozo | AllJoyn. | 15:42:04 |
| Dazzozo | additionally, CAF isolates code in branches, not in ifdefs | 15:43:00 |
| Dazzozo | I can't build for msm7627a on the latest branch | 15:43:10 |
| cybojenix | Uživatel „cybojenix“ je nyní znám jako cybojenix-away. | 15:43:29 |
| Uživatel „jordilopez94“ opustil místnost (Quit: Read error: Connection reset by peer). | 15:43:53 | |
| Dazzozo | you can cry "it's deprecated!" but 8225 and 8225q arent | 15:44:24 |
| adfad666 | does either of 8225/q have a higher branch than 4.1? | 15:45:39 |
| adfad666 | i haven't seen a new 7x27a branch for a long time | 15:46:19 |
| rymate1234 | 7x27a suxx | 15:47:10 |
| rymate1234 | y300 is where it's at | 15:47:18 |
| fefifofum | Uživatel fefifofum [~fefifofum@84.123.0.34.dyn.user.ono.com] vstoupil do místnosti. | 15:49:19 |
| ChanServ | Uživatel „ChanServ“ nastavil režim (fefifofum +v). | 15:49:19 |
| fefifofum | hi | 15:49:22 |
| Dazzozo | adfad666: i dont know but i remember a device running 4.2 | 15:51:19 |
| Dazzozo | yo | 15:51:22 |
| Kra1o5 | ZTE | 15:53:40 |
| Kra1o5 | probably | 15:53:50 |
| tilal6991 | Dazzozo: Build has started | 15:55:49 |
| Kra1o5 | http://www.gsmarena.com/zte_n880e-4880.php | 15:55:54 |
| Dazzozo | oh god | 15:55:54 |
| tilal6991 | Needed like 5 changes in the build system to get it started itsel | 15:56:04 |
| tilal6991 | * itself | 15:56:07 |
| cybojenix-away | Uživatel „cybojenix-away“ je nyní znám jako cybojenix. | 15:57:10 |
| tilal6991 | Dazzozo: Which inaccuracies? grabs popcorn | 15:59:20 |
| tilal6991 | LOL | 15:59:22 |
| Dazzozo | where | 15:59:32 |
| tilal6991 | On cyanogen's post | 15:59:47 |
| tilal6991 | xplodwid | 15:59:51 |
| Dazzozo | oh my god. | 15:59:56 |
| rymate1234 | link? | 16:00:04 |
| tilal6991 | https://plus.google.com/100275307499530023476/posts/W69a552ZYiN | 16:00:23 |
| Dazzozo | yeah | 16:00:34 |
| Dazzozo | you cant permalink comments on g+ | 16:00:43 |
| Dazzozo | gay as a hell | 16:00:45 |
| tilal6991 | Lol | 16:00:48 |
| rymate1234 | This post could not be found. | 16:00:55 |
| rymate1234 | Your URL may be incorrect, the post may have been deleted, or this account may not have access to the post. | 16:00:55 |
| Dazzozo | works for me | 16:01:03 |
| tilal6991 | And me | 16:01:08 |
| Dazzozo | im not even signed in to G+ | 16:01:10 |
| rymate1234 | odd | 16:01:12 |
| tilal6991 | https://plus.google.com/100275307499530023476 | 16:01:30 |
| tilal6991 | Latest post | 16:01:34 |
| Dazzozo | so fucking true though | 16:02:01 |
| Dazzozo | no inaccuracy there | 16:02:06 |
| Dazzozo | he DID say that | 16:02:09 |
| Dazzozo | i dont really think xplodwild has a reason to lie, either | 16:02:29 |
| Dazzozo | CM has to defend itself now | 16:02:42 |
| Dazzozo | if they didnt do this shit | 16:03:01 |
| adfad666 | 7.7 million total install of CyanogenMod | 16:03:06 |
| Dazzozo | that would be great! focal would stay, xplodwild would stay and we would all be happy | 16:03:10 |
| adfad666 | isn't that more than windows Phone? | 16:03:12 |
| tilal6991 | Lol | 16:03:14 |
| Dazzozo | yeah | 16:03:16 |
| rymate1234 | well yeah | 16:03:18 |
| Dazzozo | but windows phone is growing quicker | 16:03:20 |
| Dazzozo | than CM | 16:03:21 |
| rymate1234 | 7.7 million > 10 | 16:03:26 |
| adfad666 | the stats is broken though, last 24 hours says 0 even though the number is increasing if you refresh | 16:04:17 |
| adfad666 | http://stats.cyanogenmod.org/ | 16:04:38 |
| adfad666 | p500 still in the top list |
16:05:10 |
| rymate1234 | Dazzozo, im getting this post could not be found with every google+ post | 16:14:03 |
| Dazzozo | LOL | 16:14:10 |
| Dazzozo | rymate1234: http://i.thebronasium.com/yuki/20130920-171315.png | 16:14:30 |
| rymate1234 | oh lol | 16:14:57 |
| Solitary_ | Uživatel Solitary_ [~Solitary@ip-94-112-195-124.net.upcbroadband.cz] vstoupil do místnosti. | 16:17:39 |
| ChanServ | Uživatel „ChanServ“ nastavil režim (Solitary_ +v). | 16:17:39 |
| Dazzozo | "Sounds like a "everyone on the other side is wrong" argument to me. Instead of providing "accurate information" with proof, or simply manning up to admit it, they are resorting to name-calling. I'm not impressed. | 16:19:41 |
| Dazzozo | " | 16:19:42 |
| Dazzozo | so | 16:20:01 |
| Dazzozo | goddamn | 16:20:02 |
| Dazzozo | typical | 16:20:02 |
| tilal6991 | Who is this? | 16:20:15 |
| tilal6991 | Dazzozo: ^ | 16:21:53 |
| Dazzozo | someone on reddit | 16:22:49 |
| tilal6991 | About? | 16:23:37 |
| Dazzozo | what do you think | 16:24:39 |
| Dazzozo | lol | 16:24:41 |
| Dazzozo | what post mentioned "inaccurate information" | 16:24:48 |
| tilal6991 | Oh yeah I guess | 16:26:01 |
| Dazzozo | http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=uqj4aRfOjXI | 16:28:45 |
| tilal6991 | LOL | 16:29:19 |
| lakyljuk78 | Uživatel lakyljuk78 [~spravce@188-175-36-228.client.rionet.cz] vstoupil do místnosti. | 16:32:25 |
| Dazzozo | tilal6991: hows AOSP | 16:34:13 |
| tilal6991 | Meh | 16:34:20 |
| tilal6991 | Build is taking a while to fix | 16:34:27 |
| rymate1234 | no shit | 16:34:31 |
| tilal6991 | rymate1234: Not as bad as you might thing | 16:35:45 |
| tilal6991 | * think | 16:35:47 |
| tilal6991 | Integrated kernel building is a pain | 16:35:57 |
| rymate1234 | lol | 16:36:11 |
| tilal6991 | Just cloning busybox now | 16:36:14 |
| Dazzozo | http://store.steampowered.com/livingroom/ | 16:36:58 |
| Dazzozo | tilal6991 | 16:40:29 |
| Dazzozo | rymate1234 | 16:40:30 |
| Dazzozo | https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=lV1c8nzDp5s | 16:40:31 |
| Dazzozo | great. | 16:40:36 |
| Dazzozo | fucking | 16:40:39 |
| Dazzozo | great. | 16:40:40 |
| tilal6991 | What | 16:40:52 |
| tilal6991 | a | 16:40:53 |
| tilal6991 | surprise | 16:40:55 |
| tilal6991 | But | 16:41:02 |
| tilal6991 | Wait | 16:41:03 |
| tilal6991 | AHAHAHHAHAHA | 16:41:05 |
| Dazzozo | kill me now | 16:41:13 |
| tilal6991 | Their main contact until now was Entropy | 16:41:13 |
| tilal6991 | Pahahahahhaha | 16:41:17 |
| Dazzozo | this was quite possibly the worst time for the trailer to go live | 16:42:00 |
| tilal6991 | Yup | 16:42:33 |
| rymate1234 | Rip oppo | 16:44:23 |
| Dazzozo | BREAKING NEWS a anonymous source has confirmed that CM also known as Cyanogen Mod will be partnering with OPPO as their hardware partner. CM who had recently made waves all across the internet when the announced they will be partnering with a hardware OEM will be shipping on future OPPO devices as a option right from boot. Apparently their will be no money to be exchanged in the deal so we are not 1 | 16:44:25 |
| Dazzozo | 00% on the details but it is confirmed to be shipping with 10.1 and not 10.2 . | 16:44:25 |
| cybojenix | Uživatel „cybojenix“ je nyní znám jako cybojenix-away. | 16:45:11 |
| adfad666 | 7 million and they couldn't find a microphone | 16:45:31 |
| Dazzozo | and hes still pointlessly showing off google glass | 16:45:56 |
| Dazzozo | it also looked like he went on camera without knowing what to say | 16:46:05 |
| unaszplodrmann | tosspot | 16:46:14 |
| Dazzozo | "in beijing" | 16:46:16 |
| Dazzozo | was like | 16:46:17 |
| unaszplodrmann | steve, that is | 16:46:20 |
| Dazzozo | slow teleprompter reading | 16:46:24 |
| tilal6991 | Lol | 16:47:21 |
| unaszplodrmann | I wonder why poking the community in the eye just as alternatives that might lure devs away are emerging? Seems a risky strat to me | 16:56:54 |
| Dazzozo | i have a feeling | 17:00:14 |
| Dazzozo | they might've gone live with the oppo trailer | 17:00:20 |
| Dazzozo | to try and drown out the focal news | 17:00:27 |
| Dazzozo | lol | 17:00:29 |
| Dazzozo | +Steve Kondik If you feel content with your decisions, then you shouldn't need to defend them with this post. Are you implying that +Guillaume Lesniak doesn't deliver "quality stuff"? Your attitude towards this makes me think that you're losing sight of why/how CM is what it is today. This is disheartening to say the least. | 17:04:10 |
| Dazzozo | i said something so similar earlier lol | 17:04:18 |
| Dazzozo | "losing sight" | 17:04:22 |
| tilal6991 | Dazzozo: I think there's definitely a neeed and want for AODP now | 17:06:10 |
| tilal6991 | That's the provisional name for this | 17:06:16 |
| Dazzozo | android open duck project | 17:08:08 |
| tilal6991 | Device | 17:08:23 |
| tilal6991 | Close | 17:08:25 |
| Dazzozo | dam | 17:08:29 |
| Dazzozo | +nick martin Actually, I had suggested a MySQL-style dual GPL license because I know that this is a complicated area and after talking to Xplod, I mistakenly thought he shared my desire to grow the project. A breach of trust (now confirmed in one of Andy's posts) soured the whole thing for me. | 17:10:23 |
| Dazzozo | Anyway +Guillaume Lesniak I'm really sorry we ended up here. I feel like my intentions were good and some miscommunication on both sides caused this mess. | 17:10:23 |
| Dazzozo | lol | 17:10:24 |
| tilal6991 | +nick martin Actually, I had suggested a MySQL-style dual GPL license because I know that this is a complicated area and after talking to Xplod, I mistakenly thought he shared my desire to grow the project. A breach of trust (now confirmed in one of Andy's posts) soured the whole thing for me. | 17:11:20 |
| tilal6991 | Anyway +Guillaume Lesniak I'm really sorry we ended up here. I feel like my intentions were good and some miscommunication on both sides caused this mess. | 17:11:21 |
| tilal6991 | Lol | 17:11:23 |
| tilal6991 | Minute too late | 17:11:27 |
| Dazzozo | rekt. | 17:11:31 |
| tilal6991 | I was just reading that post to the end | 17:11:42 |
| tilal6991 | libwebcore | 17:12:56 |
| tilal6991 | I think it's building |
17:13:01 |
| adfad666 | Android Open Development Project? | 17:13:03 |
| tilal6991 | Device project | 17:13:08 |
| tilal6991 | It's focus is devices | 17:13:12 |
| tilal6991 | Only devices | 17:13:14 |
| tilal6991 | I'm not even going to bother forking any packages | 17:13:25 |
| Dazzozo | remember the simpler times | 17:13:34 |
| tilal6991 | Or even frameworks/base if I can help it | 17:13:36 |
| Dazzozo | when all we had to shit on | 17:13:38 |
| Dazzozo | was OEMs | 17:13:44 |
| tilal6991 | Lol | 17:13:48 |
| tilal6991 | Join #aodp | 17:13:57 |
| tilal6991 | Lol | 17:13:58 |
| Dazzozo | you probably will have to fork packages | 17:14:05 |
| adfad666 | then call it Android Devices or GTFO Project | 17:14:06 |
| Dazzozo | for device support | 17:14:07 |
| Dazzozo | eventually | 17:14:14 |
| tilal6991 | Maybe | 17:14:19 |
| tilal6991 | Phone? | 17:14:22 |
| Dazzozo | and frameworks/base too | 17:14:23 |
| tilal6991 | Mmms? | 17:14:24 |
| tilal6991 | That's about it though | 17:14:29 |
| Dazzozo | Bluetooth too I would reckon | 17:14:29 |
| tilal6991 | Deffo not settings | 17:14:32 |
| tilal6991 | Yeah BT as well | 17:14:46 |
| Dazzozo | it'll only be a few | 17:14:47 |
| tilal6991 | Yeah | 17:14:51 |
| Dazzozo | but cross those bridges when you come to them | 17:14:53 |
| Rostilj | Uživatel Rostilj [~Rostilj@178.79.46.121] vstoupil do místnosti. |
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| tilal6991 | Nowhere near the total forking CM does | 17:15:01 |
| adfad666 | CM uses the google toolchains at least | 17:16:12 |
| adfad666 | last i checked, anyway | 17:16:17 |
| Dazzozo | yus | 17:16:30 |
| tilal6991 | Yup | 17:16:33 |
| tilal6991 | That's it though | 17:16:38 |
| tilal6991 | Evevrything else is forked pretty much | 17:16:45 |
| tilal6991 | Uživatel „tilal6991“ je nyní znám jako tilal6991|away. | 17:20:06 |
| tilal6991|away | Uživatel „tilal6991|away“ je nyní znám jako tilal6991. | 17:20:20 |
| tilal6991 | Dazzozo: getting fibre on the 26th | 17:20:38 |
| tilal6991 | 2 days before I leave lol | 17:20:42 |
| Dazzozo | lol | 17:23:02 |
| cybojenix-away | Uživatel „cybojenix-away“ je nyní znám jako cybojenix. | 17:27:18 |
| unaszplodrmann | http://packages.debian.org/jessie/steam bye, bye Ubuntu | 17:42:17 |
| rymate1234 | THAT'S NON FREE SOFTWARE | 17:42:44 |
| rymate1234 | DAMMIT DEBIAN | 17:42:51 |
| unaszplodrmann | rofl | 17:42:51 |
| unaszplodrmann | that's why it's in non-free, eh | 17:43:21 |
| Dazzozo | http://www.androidpolice.com/2013/09/20/google-adds-probable-android-4-4-screenshot-to-korean-keyboard-update-shows-new-status-bar-with-gray-icons-and-klp-debug-icon/ | 17:45:29 |
| Dazzozo | unaszplodrmann: couldnt you use it on debian before? | 17:46:18 |
| Dazzozo | steam updates itself | 17:46:20 |
| tilal6991 | Yay | 17:47:12 |
| Dazzozo | but tilal6991 | 17:49:17 |
| Dazzozo | #33b5e5 | 17:49:19 |
| Dazzozo | ;-; | 17:49:20 |
| tilal6991 | NOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOO | 17:49:23 |
| tilal6991 | I'm sure it'll be customizable | 17:49:30 |
| tilal6991 | Otherwise | 17:49:33 |
| tilal6991 | I'll be annoyed | 17:49:35 |
| tilal6991 | Considering I'll have to update my app again | 17:49:45 |
| Dazzozo | it must be | 17:49:48 |
| tilal6991 | Yeah | 17:49:53 |
| Dazzozo | otherwise android is basically | 17:49:54 |
| Dazzozo | colourless | 17:49:56 |
| tilal6991 | So we're OK | 17:49:57 |
| tilal6991 | Lol | 17:49:59 |
| tilal6991 | Dazzozo: http://www.androidpolice.com/2013/09/20/omate-truesmart-finishes-kickstarter-campaign-with-10x-100k-target-bulks-up-with-multiple-stretch-goal-improvements/ | 17:50:38 |
| rymate1234 | tilal6991, it's a guideline | 17:50:39 |
| tilal6991 | Oh | 17:50:39 |
| rymate1234 | lmao | 17:50:40 |
| tilal6991 | My | 17:50:40 |
| tilal6991 | Gawd | 17:50:42 |
| rymate1234 | you don't have to fucking use holo blue | 17:50:50 |
| tilal6991 | rymate1234: YESSSSSSSSSSSSS IIIIIIIIIIIIIIII DOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOO | 17:51:04 |
| rymate1234 | and you won't have to change your app colour if google changes the main colour | 17:51:08 |
| tilal6991 | That's true though | 17:51:21 |
| Dazzozo | tilal6991: http://b.thumbs.redditmedia.com/hviWJJ6evPSqU7W1.png | 17:51:29 |
| tilal6991 | Exactly ^ | 17:51:39 |
| rymate1234 | #HOLO #SWAG | 17:51:46 |
| tilal6991 | #HOLOYOLO | 17:52:00 |
| rymate1234 | http://www.ebay.com.au/itm/4-X-one-direction-tickets-sydney-Friday-25th-October-/171129708772 | 17:53:11 |
| rymate1234 | LMAO | 17:53:12 |
| tilal6991 | http://www.androidpolice.com/2013/09/20/sprint-one-up-is-official-get-yearly-upgrades-and-unlimited-talk-text-and-data-guaranteed-for-life-for-65-a-month/ | 17:53:41 |
| tilal6991 | rymate1234: BLODDY HELL | 17:53:51 |
| rymate1234 | yeah | 17:53:59 |
| Dazzozo | LOL | 17:54:01 |
| tilal6991 | Laughing at the state of the American contract market | 17:54:05 |
| rymate1234 | i just | 17:54:20 |
| rymate1234 | buy a phone | 17:54:22 |
| rymate1234 | and keep it for however long i want | 17:54:27 |
| Dazzozo | ^ | 17:54:35 |
| rymate1234 | i can get unlimited data for £12 | 17:54:43 |
| rymate1234 | talking and texting is meh as I don't use them | 17:54:52 |
| tilal6991 | LOL | 17:54:59 |
| tilal6991 | I didn't read the description | 17:55:08 |
| tilal6991 | I thought you were talking about how much they were seeling for | 17:55:21 |
| tilal6991 | But ROFL at the description | 17:55:28 |
| Dazzozo | Uživatel Dazzozo změnil téma na: #huawei-g300 | G300 innovation station | home of the G300's CyanogenMod® port and children | News: Cyanogen Inc. is literally Hitler. | 17:55:38 |
| adfad666 | the contract system there seems nothing but absolute butt rape | 17:55:45 |
| rymate1234 | tilal6991, I'm talking about both lmao | 17:56:06 |
| tilal6991 | Lol | 17:56:10 |
| tilal6991 | The desctiption is more hilarious than the price TBH | 17:56:21 |
| adfad666 | well, it's one other the other, cheap phones or cheap contracts | 17:56:26 |
| unaszplodrmann | Dazzozo: you could yeah, but it wasn't in the official repos | 17:57:38 |
| Dazzozo | didnt really need to be | 17:57:49 |
| Dazzozo | you only need to install it | 17:57:55 |
| Dazzozo | once | 17:58:03 |
| Dazzozo | and then it sorts itself out | 17:58:10 |
| unaszplodrmann | you can run in loads of distros... doesn't mean it will won't be a bugfest though | 17:59:17 |
| unaszplodrmann | having Debian officially supported is good news | 17:59:39 |
| Dazzozo | i expect it to be a bugfest on ubuntu | 17:59:45 |
| Dazzozo | never mind anything else | 17:59:47 |
| Dazzozo | its a bugfest on windows | 17:59:54 |
| Dazzozo | friend tweeted earlier | 18:00:02 |
| Dazzozo | new steam features, no steam IMPROVEMENTS | 18:00:07 |
| Dazzozo | the client sucks ever since the 2010 (i think) redesign | 18:00:44 |
| tilal6991 | Lol | 18:00:55 |
| unaszplodrmann | when you put it that way lol | 18:02:18 |
| unaszplodrmann | yeah, I'm on raring atm and yup, Steam is a pretty grissly affair | 18:03:02 |
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| lakyljuk78 | Dazz, any ideas why cm 10.2 20/9 nightly makes phone unable to boot? Read a few reports on forum. | 18:33:48 |
| rymate1234 | because cm suxx | 18:34:24 |
| Dazzozo | its broken | 18:34:29 |
| Dazzozo | no idea why | 18:34:38 |
| adfad666 | cyanogen removed ALL the things | 18:34:39 |
| adfad666 | you have to pay him to make it work again | 18:34:45 |
| Dazzozo | nothing in the changelog seems to be that fatal | 18:34:50 |
| lakyljuk78 | adfad666: seems legit | 18:35:32 |
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| cybojenix | Uživatel „cybojenix“ je nyní znám jako cybojenix-away. | 18:57:01 |
| cybojenix-away | Uživatel „cybojenix-away“ je nyní znám jako cybojenix. | 19:08:28 |
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| Valicek1 | Nyní jste znám jako Valicek2. | 19:33:44 |
| Téma konverzace „#huawei-g300“ je: #huawei-g300 | G300 innovation station | home of the G300's CyanogenMod® port and children | News: Cyanogen Inc. is literally Hitler. | 19:33:50 | |
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| Dazzozo | http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=XewXEA8aWr8 | 19:39:59 |
| tilal6991 | Dazzozo: LOLOLOLOL | 19:42:29 |
| Dazzozo | http://ifixit.org/5315/apples-a7-processor-is-made-by-samsung/ | 19:43:40 |
| tilal6991 | Yeah I saw | 19:45:00 |
| rymate1234 | it would wake me up | 19:52:34 |
| modacouserr | what are you going to work with dazzozo? now that cm is gone |
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| modacouserr | i really wanna try slimbean 4.3 |
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| rymate1234 | aosp | 19:54:52 |
| modacouserr | oh, right | 19:55:03 |
| modacouserr | so the last usable build is 19/09 | 19:56:29 |
| modacouserr | 20/09 is broken | 19:56:40 |
| modacouserr | gonna update now, if that's worth it lol | 19:56:49 |
| rymate1234 | http://www.carphonewarehouse.com/mobiles/mobile-phones/HUAWEI_Y300/PPAYUPG?colourCode=BLACK http://www.carphonewarehouse.com/mobiles/mobile-phones/HUAWEI_G510/PPAYUPG?colourCode=BLACK | 20:06:21 |
| rymate1234 | what's the difference | 20:06:25 |
| rymate1234 | nvm screens bigger | 20:06:43 |
| Dazzozo | the device is practically the same | 20:07:10 |
| rymate1234 | wat | 20:07:18 |
| Dazzozo | same kernel release | 20:07:19 |
| rymate1234 | so it's a skate / crescent situation | 20:07:31 |
| rymate1234 | but with an actual decent chipset | 20:07:44 |
| modacouserr | i think im in a bootloop | 20:09:27 |
| modacouserr | oh no, just ended lol after this much minutes | 20:09:39 |
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| jordilopez94 | Uživatel jordilopez94 [~jordilope@77.224.208.20] vstoupil do místnosti. | 20:10:00 |
| rymate1234 | OH MY | 20:10:07 |
| rymate1234 | THE Y300 HAS | 20:10:11 |
| rymate1234 | AN INTERNET BROWSER | 20:10:16 |
| modacouserr | if it gives you internet access without wifi/3g on, then i really really want it |
20:11:40 |
| modacouserr | omg | 20:19:28 |
| modacouserr | every time i reboot into recovery, my battery just drops like hell | 20:19:47 |
| modacouserr | now i rebooted after change density | 20:19:54 |
| modacouserr | and gained 3% | 20:19:58 |
| Dazzozo | recovery destroys battery on every device lol | 20:22:17 |
| tilal6991 | Yup | 20:22:22 |
| tilal6991 | Mint loses several percent in recovery | 20:22:32 |
| Dazzozo | i think it runs at max clock speed | 20:22:36 |
| Dazzozo | 100% of the time | 20:22:41 |
| tilal6991 | |
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| tilal6991 | http://www.xda-developers.com/android/leaked-t-mobile-moto-x-4-3-dump-appears-now-flashable/ | 20:23:05 |
| rymate1234 | so yeah | 20:48:30 |
| rymate1234 | i think the y300 and my mums birthday present is achievable | 20:48:41 |
| tilal6991 | Dazzozo: Where do I need to put the init files? | 20:49:36 |
| rymate1234 | - i can spend just £10 a week on lunch instead of £20 by not buying drinks (£10 a week) | 20:49:44 |
| rymate1234 | - I already have £40 | 20:49:56 |
| Dazzozo | tilal6991: wat | 20:50:04 |
| modacouserr | you are just like me rymate1234 lol | 20:50:06 |
| tilal6991 | Dazzozo: For logging | 20:50:10 |
| Dazzozo | logging? | 20:50:16 |
| tilal6991 | I don't have adb logcat | 20:50:18 |
| Dazzozo | you mean the script? | 20:50:24 |
| tilal6991 | Yeah | 20:50:27 |
| Dazzozo | data/local/userinit.sh | 20:50:33 |
| Dazzozo | iirc | 20:50:34 |
| rymate1234 | - I have birthday coming up, which means I might recieve an unknown amount of money between £5 and £20 per family member | 20:50:36 |
| modacouserr | well, i'm not that lucky in family member number soooo |
20:51:24 |
| rymate1234 | i have like 3 who could potentially give me money this year | 20:51:43 |
| modacouserr | lucky you |
20:52:13 |
| modacouserr | good luck btw | 20:52:25 |
| rymate1234 | I might buy my y300 around christmas time assuming my crescent doesn't totally break before then | 20:52:59 |
| rymate1234 | why? | 20:53:02 |
| rymate1234 | christmas sales <3 | 20:53:10 |
| modacouserr | true | 20:53:27 |
| modacouserr | i would love to get a new phone, one with 1gb ram | 20:53:37 |
| modacouserr | but it's not the right time to do such | 20:53:45 |
| modacouserr | driver license + car ... well, i have to work A LOT to get them | 20:54:01 |
| modacouserr | plus, fuel |
20:54:07 |
| rymate1234 | save money! | 20:54:23 |
| rymate1234 | don't bother with a fucking car | 20:54:27 |
| rymate1234 | ...unless you need it to travel long distances | 20:55:25 |
| modacouserr | i do save money, but i do more need a car and this phone works for me, so buying a new one isn't that needed |
20:55:28 |
| modacouserr | dog walking, brb | 20:55:41 |
| rymate1234 | yeah well mine has the following faults | 20:56:31 |
| rymate1234 | 1. shit processor | 20:56:36 |
| rymate1234 | 2. cracked screen | 20:56:42 |
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| Dazzozo | holoyolo | 22:22:29 |
| tilal6991 | Uživatel „tilal6991“ je nyní znám jako tilal6991|away. | 22:22:47 |
| fefifofum | wat | 22:22:57 |
| tilal6991|away | Uživatel „tilal6991|away“ je nyní znám jako tilal6991. | 23:06:18 |
| tilal6991 | +fefifofum: #holoyolo | 23:14:17 |
| tilal6991 | Dazzozo: can't sleep. | 23:14:29 |
| Dazzozo | i can never sleep until 4am | 23:14:40 |
| tilal6991 | Good reaction on reedit so far. | 23:14:44 |
| Dazzozo | night owl | 23:14:46 |
| fefifofum | |
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| tilal6991 | Lol | 23:14:50 |
| fefifofum | i'm fighting with bluetooth on cm10.1 | 23:15:26 |
| Dazzozo | a bunch of people have started restoring bluez in cm10.1 instead | 23:16:17 |
| Dazzozo | because it works better on older hardware | 23:16:26 |
| Dazzozo | loool | 23:16:26 |
| fefifofum | i have to check that option | 23:16:52 |
| Dazzozo | yeah | 23:16:57 |
| Dazzozo | it is an option if bluedroid wont stop being an ass | 23:17:06 |
| tilal6991 | Lol | 23:17:06 |
| fefifofum | but i'm close now, it starts and can see other devices, but cannot pair | 23:17:11 |
| Dazzozo | G300 works pretty well on bluedroid | 23:19:00 |
| Dazzozo | sleep is pretty awkward | 23:19:08 |
| Dazzozo | and tethering doesnt work on 10.2 for god knows what fucking reason | 23:19:16 |
| Dazzozo | i'd like to fix everything on bluedroid but yeah | 23:20:01 |
| Dazzozo | easier said than done etc | 23:20:06 |
| fefifofum | yes | 23:20:12 |
| fefifofum | now it detect the chip with the wrong name, so I had to rename the firmware file to the wrong name | 23:21:34 |
| fefifofum | otherwise it's not used and bluetooth cannot see other devices | 23:21:49 |
| tilal6991 | @Dazzozo: I have indirect contact with xplodwid | 23:23:18 |
| Dazzozo | how | 23:24:22 |
| Dazzozo | also does your app add these extraneous +s and @s to name tagging | 23:24:51 |
| Dazzozo | theyre not necessary in chat messages | 23:24:58 |
| tilal6991 | @Dazzozo: guy called uberlaggydarwin that I know through holoirc | 23:25:08 |
| tilal6991 | Yes it does. | 23:25:13 |
| tilal6991 | It was a remnant from ages ago. | 23:25:22 |
| Dazzozo | thought so | 23:25:26 |
| tilal6991 | I can get rid of it now. | 23:25:30 |
| Dazzozo | do it | 23:25:38 |
| Dazzozo | its bothering me lol | 23:25:40 |
| tilal6991 | The code it depended on changes. | 23:25:42 |
| tilal6991 | * changed. | 23:25:45 |
| tilal6991 | So its possible now. | 23:25:52 |
| Dazzozo | lol | 23:25:55 |
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| Dazzozo | tilal6991: you found a dev on reddit | 23:37:44 |
| Dazzozo | lol | 23:37:48 |
| tilal6991 | Yay | 23:37:52 |
| tilal6991 | Ill have to put out another post in a few days time actually announcing the start of the project. | 23:38:36 |
| Dazzozo | lol | 23:39:04 |
| tilal6991 | Then I get people to pester their devs. | 23:40:15 |
| tilal6991 | It seems xplodwid likes the idea. Dazzozo < | 23:43:06 |
| Dazzozo | did he comment? | 23:43:46 |
| tilal6991 | And more people are leaving cm. Dazzozo. | 23:43:47 |
| Dazzozo | where | 23:43:52 |
| Dazzozo | omg | 23:43:52 |
| Dazzozo | where are you finding this | 23:43:56 |
| Dazzozo | i must know the news | 23:43:59 |
| tilal6991 | Uberlaggydarwin. | 23:44:03 |
| Dazzozo | o | 23:44:12 |
| tilal6991 | He spike with xplodwid on g talk. | 23:44:14 |
| tilal6991 | Seems like more people are leaving. | 23:44:37 |
| tilal6991 | And the BABBq is where its all gonna go down. | 23:44:53 |
| tilal6991 | Massive meeting where it all happens. | 23:46:06 |
| tilal6991 | Omg. | 23:46:09 |
| tilal6991 | I want the day to arrive. | 23:46:22 |
| tilal6991 | And pronto. | 23:46:25 |
| Dazzozo | lol | 23:47:12 |
| Dazzozo | my N4 arrived at that guy's house | 23:49:05 |
| tilal6991 | Nice | 23:49:23 |
| Dazzozo | and I have proof of delivery )) | 23:49:30 |
| Dazzozo | dat tracking | 23:49:40 |
| tilal6991 | Lol | 23:50:05 |
| tilal6991 | @Dazzozo: bloody hell. | 23:51:28 |
| tilal6991 | Every time I refresh the post is up voted a few votes more | 23:51:46 |
| Dazzozo | yeah its hot on /r/Android now | 23:52:23 |
| tilal6991 | Awesome. | 23:53:00 |
| Dazzozo | i told you people think its a cool idea lol | 23:53:13 |
| tilal6991 | Love it when a plan comes together. | 23:53:15 |
| tilal6991 | Lol | 23:53:22 |
| tilal6991 | @Dazzozo: going to have another attempt at sleeping. | 23:56:36 |
| tilal6991 | Gn | 23:56:40 |
| Dazzozo | cya | 23:56:42 |
| fefifofum | gl | 23:57:00 |
| tilal6991 | Uživatel „tilal6991“ je nyní znám jako tilal6991|away. | 23:57:16 |