#huawei-g300 chanel log 2013-09-20

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I'm sorry for not actual logs - my FTP uploads are reduced a lot, i'm working on new solution..

Expected startup is about 10.2.2014

SilvesterBot Starting build #144 for job android 00:00:49
SilvesterBot Project android build #144: SUCCESS in 29 min: http://jenkins.thebronasium.com/job/android/144/ 00:30:06
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Dazzozo http://www.androidpolice.com/2013/09/19/focal-camera-app-removed-from-cyanogenmod-xplodwild-leaves-the-project-first-major-casualty-of-incorporating/ 01:40:23
Dazzozo OUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUCHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHH 01:40:26
Dazzozo that stings 01:40:48
Dazzozo this is not about app instability at all thats for sure 01:48:46
Dazzozo its not stable because he doesnt work on the app anymore 01:49:17
Dazzozo because of conflict 01:49:24
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Dazzozo >the community is our greatest asset 01:58:01
Dazzozo >shit over it because it doesnt want to feed your kids with its work 01:58:19
Dazzozo I hate how members of the CM team try to defend themselves with decisions 02:13:55
Dazzozo and allegations 02:14:11
Dazzozo "you really think we would do that" or "after all we've done" etc 02:14:24
Dazzozo well, are you going to confirm or deny it or what 02:14:47
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djuroue mornin 05:59:11
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rymate1234 Ββββββββ 08:33:43
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tilal6991 Dazzozo: https://plus.google.com/106978520009932034644/posts 10:04:36
tilal6991 This makes me sad 10:04:41
cybojenix-away Uživatel „cybojenix-away“ je nyní znám jako cybojenix. 10:11:07
Eloimuns Uživatel Eloimuns [~eloimuns@209.pool85-55-229.dynamic.orange.es] vstoupil do místnosti. 10:22:09
Solitary tilal6991, wow... so now we know how they want to make money... by fucking everyone over 10:28:43
tilal6991 Seems that way 10:29:03
modacouserr Uživatel modacouserr [0251df1c@gateway/web/freenode/ip.2.81.223.28] vstoupil do místnosti. 10:29:31
Solitary now the NSA backdoor doesnt seem to be that much of a sci-fi ... shipping different code from public one 10:29:37
modacouserr hey 10:29:57
Solitary hi 10:30:07
modacouserr what's up? 10:30:17
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Solitary modacouserr, just some CM bullshit 10:36:13
modacouserr hmmm, i wonder what so amazing things are they planning 10:38:23
Solitary https://plus.google.com/106978520009932034644/posts 10:42:28
Solitary not much 10:42:49
cybojenix http://viewer.zmags.com/publication/add29178 10:43:26
Solitary cybojenix, I always wonder, who had that idea to make digital content and put it into magazine look-a-like provided by flash 10:47:11
cybojenix would be better in html5 10:47:36
Solitary why not just make it into web content? 10:47:38
Solitary magazine form is not outdated just because of the paper 10:48:16
Solitary but because you have to list through it, you can't easily search through it 10:48:40
cybojenix you can still get the animations without having to use flash 10:49:08
Solitary well, the flash is just one part of the problem 10:49:26
Solitary the animation itself is what bothers me... 10:49:52
cybojenix yeah I know. I've been reading up on it all over the last few weeks 10:49:56
cybojenix the animation is fine 10:50:04
cybojenix however this is actually badly done.. 10:50:21
cybojenix they have a page per side of the magazine, with an intro animation 10:50:43
cybojenix at least it offers it's own search function (even if it is slow) 10:51:08
Solitary why not just web page? 10:52:20
Solitary why the need to have some sort of magazine animation? 10:52:37
cybojenix why have any styling 10:52:48
cybojenix can just have it all in raw form. 10:52:56
Solitary this is not really a styling, is it... 10:52:59
Solitary we are on the internet after all 10:53:07
Solitary we have the technology! 10:53:15
cybojenix then why not have the animation? 10:53:27
Solitary so we make it look like a paper magazine which you have to rifle through 10:53:29
Solitary because it's useless, slow, and basically tries to apply old outdated forms 10:54:11
Solitary paper magazines or news were in that form, because they are from paper, so book form is the best what was invented... there is no real and good reason to do it on the internet 10:55:05
cybojenix there are buttons on the bottom. maybe it's optimised for touch screens 10:55:29
Solitary it's just inconvinient 10:55:32
Solitary where do you run nonflash version? 10:56:19
Solitary or did I misunderstood what you said 10:56:44
cybojenix already said about the flash thing. it should be entirely in html 10:56:46
cybojenix there is nothing there that can't be in html 10:57:09
Solitary oh, I misunderstood then... "you can still get the animations without having to use flash" ... i thought you meant the page 10:57:14
Solitary of course 10:57:23
Solitary I am very patiently waiting for Mozilla Shumway 10:57:48
cybojenix .g shumway 10:57:58
cybojenix urgh 10:58:02
cybojenix oh ok 10:58:17
Solitary http://mozilla.github.io/shumway/ 10:58:33
cybojenix yeah 10:58:44
Solitary at this point it can do some little stuff, usually still with rendering or functionality errors, but they are moving fast 10:59:13
cybojenix yeah 10:59:24
cybojenix I want to start looking at app developement for firefox os 10:59:35
Solitary I even saw youtube running, but couldn't reproduce it... even build my own firefox for it, still nothing... must be some more magic around it 11:00:02
cybojenix yeah 11:00:12
Solitary are you into html5 platform? 11:00:18
cybojenix tbh, youtube is moving to html5 now 11:00:20
Solitary youtube is moving to html5 for quite a long time 11:00:35
cybojenix I'm getting there. learning the basics of the three 11:00:38
Solitary they still have that html5 trial 11:00:43
cybojenix as soon as the html5 testing came out, I was using it 11:00:52
Solitary which only allows non-ad videos to be run wit html5 11:00:59
Solitary anything with ads in it needs flash 11:01:11
cybojenix yeah 11:01:15
Solitary and most of worthwhile content has ads... or would have, if I haven't used adblocker like it was end of the world 11:01:54
Solitary 11:02:02
cybojenix adblockers are the savior. 11:02:06
cybojenix I know it's wrong to do, but I still use them. 11:02:19
Solitary yea, I am kinda sorry that I will not make them revenue, but ads are something that I just can't get through 11:02:35
cybojenix not as if they make money from me anyway, I don't click on them 11:02:36
Solitary I don't even watch TV, so no ads for me 11:03:27
cybojenix I'm learning the django framework atm to implement python into websites 11:03:33
cybojenix we record everything, then skip through them 11:03:41
Solitary I have a tv... with RPi connected, NFS share and G300 as a remote control 11:03:45
cybojenix lol 11:03:51
cybojenix gtg 11:03:59
Solitary I remember when we recorded movies on VHS, we stopped recording, moved back a little, and then started again... ads insta-cut 11:04:45
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modacouserr http://www.androidpolice.com/2013/09/19/focal-camera-app-removed-cyanogenmod-developer-xplodwild-leaves-team-first-fallout-incorporating/ 11:24:32
modacouserr lol 11:24:33
modacouserr one down 11:24:42
unaszplodrmann Uživatel unaszplodrmann [~nat@unaszplodrmann.plus.com] vstoupil do místnosti. 11:34:16
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unaszplodrmann Dazzozo: You broke my phone! 11:35:04
unaszplodrmann I would try to be helpful, but can't get in to look at the logs... best just revert to last nightly I suppose 11:36:10
Solitary unaszplodrmann, using 10.2? 11:44:24
unaszplodrmann yep, today's nightly 11:44:53
unaszplodrmann woke up early and was greeted by update notification, clicked on through and let it update, rolled over and went back to sleep... woke up again, dead battery lol 11:46:09
Solitary unaszplodrmann, how's the battery life in idle? on par with 10.1? 11:47:00
Solitary not counting today's nightly 11:47:16
unaszplodrmann ah, I had adb disabled... that'd be why huh 11:47:30
unaszplodrmann much better than 10.1, to the point where I'm wondering what/if Daz has done to reduce battery drain 11:49:08
Solitary really? 11:49:38
Solitary no placebo effect I hope 11:49:47
Solitary 10.1 drained my battery after 2.5days of just sitting on the table 11:50:09
unaszplodrmann same setup, same usage patterns 11:50:18
rymate1234 I think there's a new kernel, not entirely sure though 11:50:24
unaszplodrmann same here 11:50:56
unaszplodrmann with normal usage, I'm lucky to get about 24-28 hours 11:51:23
Solitary 10.1 ? 11:51:32
unaszplodrmann yep 11:51:40
Solitary and 10.2 ? 11:51:44
rymate1234 wow 11:51:45
rymate1234 I wish I got 28 hours :'( 11:52:05
unaszplodrmann and then with 10.2, first thing I noticed was battery at about 75% after 12 hours, including 2 hours of music listening (which is more than usual) 11:52:27
Solitary 75% after 12h means 50% after 24h that's bad 11:53:01
Solitary I noticed that 10.1 drained (at its best) proximately 1% per 1hour 11:53:28
Solitary but more like 30% in 24h 11:53:39
rymate1234 With cm10.2? 11:53:52
Solitary without any touching, no wifi, no nothing 11:54:00
Solitary didn't bother trying 10.2 11:54:09
Solitary I went back to CM9 11:54:27
unaszplodrmann yeah, my app setup probably hurt quite a bit 11:54:45
rymate1234 Solitary: How is 50% in 24 hours bad? 11:54:52
Solitary with just 2hours of listening music? 11:55:02
Solitary that's bad 11:55:07
rymate1234 I'm lucky to get 50% over 2 hours 11:55:15
unaszplodrmann depends how frequently you wish to, or can, charge 11:55:21
unaszplodrmann rymate1234, that isn't just bad, that's unusable as a mobile device lol 11:55:53
Solitary rymate1234, in your comparison it might be nice, but G300 is capable to go for a week and some more on battery with idle/music 11:55:57
rymate1234 ..yeah 11:56:03
rymate1234 Wait no I was exaggerating 11:56:44
rymate1234 I'm down to 45% in 5 hours 11:56:57
rymate1234 With literally no usage 11:57:02
rymate1234 Apart from 1/2 hour tethering to iPad on a bus journey 11:57:16
Solitary that's unusable 11:57:18
rymate1234 yeah 11:57:35
Solitary I was mad with that 1% per hour deal 11:57:39
rymate1234 I don't go out much though 11:57:47
rymate1234 I'm at school at the moment 11:57:52
rymate1234 When I do go out, I take a second battery :> 11:58:05
Solitary I remember that I got like 1% per 8hours with some ROM (I am not sure if it was CM9 or some older) 11:58:11
Solitary non-CM ROM 11:58:27
rymate1234 Solitary: What do you do on your phone? 11:58:36
rymate1234 I typically browse the web and / or use irc 11:59:14
Solitary mostly music (when I go shopping etc.), few calls (like 30mins a week), wifi 11:59:17
rymate1234 Maybe the odd phone call or text 11:59:37
Dazzozo back 11:59:39
rymate1234 Used to use it for music but i don't have headphones at the moment that work with my phone 12:00:19
rymate1234 I got these knockoff apple headphones that only work right on my iPad 12:00:56
Solitary rymate1234, now I am at 27% after 3days, I think I did 30mins of calling with that, nonstop wifi, some browsing, maybe a little of 2D gaming (like 15mins) 12:01:00
rymate1234 I wish I got that battery life 12:01:31
rymate1234 Can't wait to get a y300 12:01:37
Dazzozo whats this about battery life? my scrollback = rip 12:03:16
Solitary if I would buy something I would try that Blade V, seems good for that price 12:03:19
Dazzozo does today's nightly suck or something? 12:03:26
unaszplodrmann it kills phones 12:03:41
unaszplodrmann ... 12:03:46
unaszplodrmann lol 12:03:48
Dazzozo wait 12:03:49
Dazzozo wat. 12:03:49
Dazzozo I changed nothing 12:04:00
unaszplodrmann nah... 12:04:00
rymate1234 wat 12:04:00
Dazzozo absolutely nothing 12:04:05
unaszplodrmann theres something very wrong with it though 12:04:11
Dazzozo nightlies won't use the new kernel for some time 12:04:14
unaszplodrmann I didn't have adb aenabled, and no-one posted anything useful on the forums, but it doesn't boot up to home screen anyway 12:04:53
Solitary unaszplodrmann, just a quick question... why do you think that nightly is the culprit? Just because it died after the update? 12:04:55
rymate1234 unaszplodrmann: What's the issue? 12:04:56
rymate1234 Oh 12:05:00
Solitary oh it does not boot up 12:05:18
rymate1234 unaszplodrmann: can't you flash the previous nightly 12:05:26
unaszplodrmann yeah, I was just taking the piss.. 12:05:35
Dazzozo the last change I made to anything in the stable stuff is https://github.com/Dazzozo/android_kernel_huawei_u8815/commit/9c6c746bfe35e887dd5529b3843e1c0d7c0dbe16 12:05:40
unaszplodrmann yeah, I did 12:05:44
Dazzozo and thats 4 days ago 12:05:51
unaszplodrmann yeah, I read the changelogs 12:06:14
unaszplodrmann odd innit 12:06:23
rymate1234 DAMMIT CYANOGENMOD(R) 12:06:35
unaszplodrmann notice the large difference is size between last two nightlies 12:06:43
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rymate1234 (╯°□°)╯︵ ┻━┻ 12:07:34
Solitary lol 12:08:06
Solitary unaszplodrmann, probably heisenbug 12:08:14
unaszplodrmann just don't read the forums today, unless you want to trawl through lots cm10.2 y u no boot posts lol 12:08:43
Solitary 12:08:58
rymate1234 xE 12:09:40
rymate1234 12:09:42
Dazzozo yeah 12:10:13
Dazzozo they removed focal 12:10:16
Dazzozo but does focal account for 14mb 12:10:20
Dazzozo maybe 12:10:27
Dazzozo idk 12:10:29
unaszplodrmann sec 12:10:32
Dazzozo actually 12:10:33
Dazzozo yeah 12:10:34
Dazzozo definitely 12:10:36
Dazzozo it has a ton of libs and shit 12:10:39
unaszplodrmann really? lol 12:10:41
Dazzozo it has a TON of shit 12:10:46
Dazzozo https://github.com/CyanogenMod/android_external_Focal 12:10:59
Dazzozo https://github.com/CyanogenMod/android_packages_apps_Focal 12:11:10
rymate1234 Focal confirmed for shit 12:12:28
unaszplodrmann aye, lots of stuff pulled in for post-processing 12:13:01
unaszplodrmann gtg - work time :/ I'd say I'll grab logcat, but no time reflash today's nightly... 12:14:50
unaszplodrmann ... and yeah, its prolly heisenbug ^^ lol 12:15:01
Dazzozo have fun lol 12:15:38
modacouserr dazzozo: is there a build for us to test the new kernel? 12:23:38
Dazzozo no 12:23:43
Dazzozo its not something you want to test 12:23:48
modacouserr hmm ok 12:23:55
Dazzozo its nowhere near that stage 12:24:00
modacouserr yeah, maybe not in the meaning of the word 12:24:09
modacouserr im very happy with latest nightlyes 12:24:22
modacouserr is there any news about 4.4? never heard of it again since the day google got the new garden thing 12:25:43
modacouserr wooo, google has office app now lol gonna try it 12:26:27
modacouserr dazzozo: remember me saying that mms wasn't being received without activating 3g? 12:27:35
Dazzozo yeah 12:27:40
modacouserr it's all goo dnow 12:27:43
modacouserr good now 12:27:45
Dazzozo as of when? 12:27:48
Dazzozo today's nightly? 12:27:52
modacouserr maybe in the first ones it was already ok, i only tryed it yesterday with 1609 12:28:28
Dazzozo "The real problem is how they handled the incorporation: keeping the community, including most contributors, in the dark, was a dick move that will bite them back in the ass. 12:34:17
Dazzozo Transparency is key in open source projects." 12:34:17
Dazzozo gotta agree with that 12:34:20
Dazzozo https://plus.google.com/106978520009932034644/posts/L8FJkrcahPs 12:35:34
tilal6991 Dazzozo: https://plus.google.com/106978520009932034644/posts makes me sad 12:43:08
tilal6991 12:43:11
Dazzozo fuck CM 12:43:15
Dazzozo i'm done 12:43:16
Dazzozo fuck it 12:43:16
Dazzozo this is enough 12:43:19
Dazzozo https://plus.google.com/u/0/101093310520661581786/posts/1ev1FJpSCE3 12:43:22
Dazzozo read this 12:43:23
Dazzozo and the commentsd 12:43:24
Dazzozo im fucking done 12:43:27
Dazzozo fuck them 12:43:27
Dazzozo fuuuckk k themmm 12:43:31
Dazzozo ending the nightlies 12:43:33
Dazzozo fuck them 12:43:34
tilal6991 Not happy with how Steve's handled this 12:45:27
tilal6991 Dazzozo: +Ibrahim Awwal +Obi Hörnchen It was Andrew who started the bullshitty link between him visiting a funeral and Cyanogen Inc, so it's hard to blame Steve for tastelessness there. Provoking was the sole intent of that post; which is what I would call immature. 12:49:07
tilal6991 +Guillaume Lesniak I could understand the issues you're having with this whole thing, but why are you dragging false assertions into this? Things like the SD card thing (which actually was merged into the AOSP gallery) or DeviceParts (would CMHW have been adopted that quickly if the DeviceParts link wouldn't have been removed? And it's still possible to ship a standalone DeviceParts app...). 12:49:07
tilal6991 I'm also not sure I understand the review process critique. Yes, review is too slow (we're severely lacking review bandwidth), but where are the random -2's you're referring to? 12:49:07
tilal6991 +Tapio Valli Exactly. Most people seem to confuse "disable root by default" with "remove root". 12:49:09
tilal6991 By Danny Bauman 12:49:12
tilal6991 Seems pretty weak to me 12:49:19
rymate1234 What's happening 12:49:35
tilal6991 rymate1234: CM is properly closing up 12:49:45
Dazzozo well looks like im going back to rolling my own AOSP builds when I get my N5 12:50:35
tilal6991 Dazzozo: See Entropy's comments at the end 12:51:42
tilal6991 I want to see what his story is 12:51:54
tilal6991 I really respect Entropy 12:52:02
rymate1234 rip 12:52:52
rymate1234 rip cm 12:52:52
rymate1234 Also my phone just fell out of my pocket 12:52:57
rymate1234 Now my screen is cracked 12:53:06
Dazzozo rekt. 12:53:18
rymate1234 It's not too bad 12:53:24
rymate1234 Not that noticeable 12:53:31
tilal6991 I really hope cyanogen and co change their attitude 12:54:02
rymate1234 If I hold it at a standard angle of holding a phone it's fine 12:54:15
rymate1234 Might invest in a screen protector so it doesn't get worse 12:54:34
Dazzozo tilal6991: too late 12:54:54
Dazzozo theyre gonna lose the community anyways 12:55:04
Dazzozo most important asset my ass 12:55:08
Dazzozo they treated it like shit 12:55:11
tilal6991 Yeah I hope they do if they don't change the attitude 12:55:20
tilal6991 What I'm worried is people will keep contributing even though they don't change 12:56:05
Dazzozo of course... 12:56:17
Dazzozo but all of their major long term contributors 12:56:28
Dazzozo are gonna hop 12:56:37
rymate1234 Oh shit the cracks are growing wtf 12:56:42
tilal6991 Dazzozo: I do hope so 12:56:54
rymate1234 Oh no 12:57:25
rymate1234 All these cracks over the front camera 12:57:38
rymate1234 The horror 12:57:40
tilal6991 Lol 12:57:44
tilal6991 You need a new phone 12:57:51
Dazzozo if they'd done a mozilla 12:58:16
Dazzozo i would love them more than ever 12:58:20
Dazzozo but no 12:58:23
tilal6991 Yeah agreed 12:58:38
tilal6991 Mozilla would have been excellent 12:58:49
tilal6991 Even if they'd done a Google I think I would have been OK 12:58:59
tilal6991 But why relicense Focal in that case? 12:59:08
Dazzozo doesnt focal have to be GPL anyway 13:00:35
Dazzozo because of the external stuff it uses? 13:00:44
tilal6991 Not if it's dynamically linked 13:01:31
rymate1234 tilal6991: It's not too bad 13:04:35
rymate1234 I've seen iPhones with worse physical damage 13:04:48
Dazzozo "You know what happens when you get paid after the work is done? Your negotiating power is gone and you don't get anywhere near what you deserve for the work. Guillaume even mentioned in the OP that Steve reasons the devs don't deserve "to be rewarded" since they contributed before CM Inc was ever a thing. The "investor pressure" they have is something they took on by choice and without even consult 13:04:50
Dazzozo ing the other devs." 13:04:50
tilal6991 :/ 13:05:10
modacouserr bye bye cm? 13:06:42
tilal6991 Yup 13:07:04
Dazzozo http://www.reddit.com/r/Android/comments/1mrp1t/how_it_really_is_with_cm_focal_etc/ccc0syl 13:08:03
rymate1234 Rip cm 13:08:24
rymate1234 So 13:08:56
rymate1234 My birthday soon 13:08:59
rymate1234 Hopefully I get enough money to fund a y300 13:09:16
tilal6991 Yup 13:11:29
rymate1234 Or even a g300 13:11:45
Dazzozo almost no point getting a g300 13:12:06
rymate1234 Or I could miss out on getting lunch for 4 weeks 13:12:18
rymate1234 Not like school serves anything decent anyway lol 13:12:39
Dazzozo i did something like that once 13:12:59
Dazzozo cant remember what for 13:13:02
tilal6991 Deleting obsolete path /var/lib/jenkins/jobs/android-experimental/workspace/cm-10.2/external/Focal 13:13:11
tilal6991 Deleting obsolete path /var/lib/jenkins/jobs/android-experimental/workspace/cm-10.2/packages/apps/Focal 13:13:11
tilal6991 Bye Focal 13:13:16
Dazzozo rip. 13:13:17
rymate1234 rip 13:14:02
modacouserr holy s%$"# now what? 13:15:05
tilal6991 Dazzozo: We should fork lol 13:15:06
adfad666_ Uživatel adfad666_ [~adfad666@cl-572.prg-01.cz.sixxs.net] vstoupil do místnosti. 13:15:12
Dazzozo no 13:15:12
Dazzozo we shouldnt 13:15:13
Dazzozo because any project we do like that ends up dead 13:15:19
Dazzozo look at androidarmv6 now 13:15:22
tilal6991 No 13:15:31
tilal6991 Because androidarmv6 had a very specific goal 13:15:41
tilal6991 Which was fulfilled 13:15:45
Dazzozo honestly i dont even want a fork of CM 13:16:18
Dazzozo i want CM to just 13:16:20
Dazzozo go 13:16:20
Dazzozo away 13:16:22
Dazzozo and not exist 13:16:30
tilal6991 No not CM 13:16:39
tilal6991 AOSP 13:16:41
Dazzozo man i feel so bitter 13:17:03
Dazzozo it feels like 13:17:11
rymate1234 I just want AOSP for every device. 13:17:15
Dazzozo im FORCED to use CM 13:17:16
tilal6991 https://github.com/SlimRoms 13:17:16
Dazzozo because of the device support 13:17:20
Dazzozo its like buying in to an ecosystem and trying to move away from it 13:17:35
tilal6991 Lol 13:17:51
tilal6991 Dazzozo: The issue is no ROM ATM is as professional as CM is 13:18:18
tilal6991 CM's way of doing things is very refined compared to the heavyhandedness of AOKP and co 13:18:46
rymate1234 tilal6991: Aosp is better for nexuses 13:22:04
tilal6991 No it's not 13:22:10
tilal6991 IMHO 13:22:12
tilal6991 I need quick settings customization 13:22:20
Dazzozo AOSP is all i need really 13:23:12
rymate1234 Lmao 13:23:16
rymate1234 Teacher just went on a rant about iOS 7 13:23:25
tilal6991 Dazzozo: Yeah but device support 13:24:42
Dazzozo dont need it for AOSP 13:24:53
Dazzozo and nexus 13:24:55
tilal6991 Yeah but other devices lol 13:25:04
Dazzozo well i wont care when I have N5 lol 13:25:14
rymate1234 Just merge all the device support changes from CM 13:25:23
tilal6991 rymate1234: Lol 13:26:09
rymate1234 MERGE ALL THE THINGS 13:26:23
Dazzozo that said 13:30:15
Dazzozo i would totally back a project like that 13:30:20
Dazzozo its just i wouldnt personally have a use for it on a device i would be using 13:30:36
Dazzozo but it would be useful for the g300 13:30:39
Dazzozo im surprised there is no project thats strictly AOSP + device enablement 13:31:10
Dazzozo it would be a great base for other roms 13:31:28
Dazzozo and it would be debian-like 13:31:39
tilal6991 Dazzozo: Do you want to do that? 13:31:43
Dazzozo i would happily work on it 13:31:49
tilal6991 I'm downloading AOSP atm 13:31:54
tilal6991 And I want to see how much work it takes to get mint working 13:32:07
tilal6991 No CM repos 13:32:13
tilal6991 Just plain AOSP 13:32:23
Dazzozo i doubt it would take a lot to just get it to boot 13:32:27
Dazzozo audio and shit would take some work though 13:32:34
tilal6991 Yeah agreed 13:32:38
tilal6991 display as well 13:33:07
Dazzozo i dont know much about display-caf 13:33:25
tilal6991 It's just CAF with compatibility patches 13:35:45
Dazzozo my N4 should arrive at that guy's house today or tomorrow 13:37:53
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Dazzozo seems like a lot of people are moving away from CM lol 14:27:46
vladax 14:27:59
Dazzozo the reddit hivemind is anti-CM 14:28:07
vladax crazy things 14:28:11
SilvesterBot Starting build #146 for job android 14:28:48
rymate1234 rip cm 14:34:19
vladax 14:42:04
rymate1234 http://www.unwiredview.com/2013/09/20/is-htc-cyanogenmods-official-hardware-partner/ 14:42:22
SilvesterBot Yippie, build fixed! 14:43:19
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tilal6991 Dazzozo: Good 14:43:49
tilal6991 I want everyone to move away from CM 14:43:58
Dazzozo they'll comment on it later surely 14:44:09
vladax My s2 is fucked 14:44:41
vladax 14:44:43
vladax XplodWild-left 14:44:53
vladax David-left 14:45:04
vladax .... 14:45:05
tilal6991 Has codeworkx left as well? 14:45:36
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tilal6991 Awesome 14:45:38
vladax no words 14:45:55
vladax from cody 14:46:00
vladax yet 14:46:14
tilal6991 K 14:46:18
tilal6991 Hope he does 14:46:20
SilvesterBot Uživatel SilvesterBot [~Silvester@thebronasium.com] vstoupil do místnosti. 14:46:21
Dazzozo im doing jenkins updates 14:46:38
Dazzozo so 14:46:41
rymate1234 wow 14:46:46
Dazzozo bot might leave etc 14:46:49
rymate1234 Actual rip 14:46:49
rymate1234 Not even sarcastic 14:46:59
rymate1234 Cm is ripping 14:47:04
tilal6991 The person I'm most interested to hear from is arcee 14:48:07
Dazzozo why 14:48:11
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Dazzozo arcee is in on this lol 14:48:15
tilal6991 He's not in the CM core team is he? 14:48:17
Dazzozo he is 14:48:18
Dazzozo he works for them ffs 14:48:20
tilal6991 Oh screw that then 14:48:22
vladax https://plus.google.com/101093310520661581786/posts/1ev1FJpSCE3 14:48:38
vladax seen this? 14:48:45
Dazzozo yeah 14:48:49
Dazzozo http://cyngn.com/ 14:48:50
SilvesterBot Uživatel SilvesterBot [~Silvester@thebronasium.com] vstoupil do místnosti. 14:48:53
Dazzozo hes listed 14:48:55
Dazzozo oh 14:49:02
Dazzozo he isnt anymore 14:49:04
Dazzozo wow 14:49:04
Dazzozo they removed him 14:49:06
Dazzozo he was there yesterday 14:49:09
Dazzozo interesting 14:49:11
Dazzozo .... 14:49:13
Dazzozo oh 14:49:24
Dazzozo no hes back 14:49:25
Dazzozo what 14:49:25
Dazzozo i refreshed 14:49:27
Dazzozo and hes back 14:49:28
Dazzozo what the fuck is this 14:49:32
adfad666__ magic 14:49:34
vladax steve is eating popcorns on funeral post :S 14:49:35
tilal6991 Lol 14:49:39
Dazzozo yeah 14:49:42
Dazzozo i have no idea 14:49:48
Solitary dick 14:49:49
Dazzozo what that was 14:49:50
rymate1234 So cm fucked up 14:49:53
tilal6991 Big time 14:50:12
tilal6991 They've pissed off most of the community it seems 14:50:22
adfad666__ nah 14:50:51
tilal6991 Dazzozo: Just noticed that the newest nightly for mako 9/20 focal was removed? Is there a reason why? I loved focal. 14:51:08
adfad666__ it'll be like when they added the google trackimg stuff, it'll blow over soon 14:51:08
tilal6991 Srsly? 14:51:11
Dazzozo LOL 14:51:17
tilal6991 Where have you been the past day? 14:51:27
Dazzozo adfad666__: they removed the tracking stuff... 14:51:29
Dazzozo as a result 14:51:38
Dazzozo of the shitstorm 14:51:39
tilal6991 adfad666__: Unless a big change of attitude is incoming I don't see much hope 14:51:43
adfad666__ it was added back differently later though right? 14:51:51
tilal6991 No 14:52:03
Dazzozo nope. 14:52:06
Dazzozo it was only added once 14:52:11
adfad666__ oh ok, i though it was 14:52:13
Dazzozo and it was removed 14:52:14
vladax https://plus.google.com/106978520009932034644/posts/L8FJkrcahPs 14:52:22
Dazzozo yes 14:52:28
Dazzozo we've seen that, too. 14:52:31
Dazzozo in fact the first post was linked from it 14:52:35
Dazzozo rule of thumb 14:52:42
tilal6991 Lol 14:52:43
Dazzozo if you have a link 14:52:44
vladax ah sry 14:52:46
Dazzozo we've probably seen it already 14:52:47
adfad666__ Dazzozo is a link whore 14:53:02
Dazzozo 14:53:09
tilal6991 codeworkx and Entropy's full story are what I want to hear now 14:53:44
tilal6991 I have a lot of respect for both of them 14:54:12
adfad666__ why is there a balding man with blue hair on the CM team 14:54:14
vladax codeworkx recently moved to a new house,he is very busy with that recently 14:54:43
adfad666__ it looks like a normal bunch of folks, then BAM blue hair and big belly 14:54:49
tilal6991 Think Red Hat or Mozilla: they're both successful businesses based on open source. 14:55:36
tilal6991 THIS ^ 14:55:38
Dazzozo CM has pretty much 14:56:18
Dazzozo done everything poorly 14:56:21
Dazzozo so far 14:56:22
cybojenix Uživatel „cybojenix“ je nyní znám jako cybojenix-away. 14:56:22
Dazzozo like 14:56:35
Dazzozo everything 14:56:36
cybojenix-away Uživatel „cybojenix-away“ je nyní znám jako cybojenix. 14:56:37
Dazzozo if you could fuck it up 14:56:38
Dazzozo CM did 14:56:39
tilal6991 Yup 14:56:55
tilal6991 Also http://review.cyanogenmod.org/#/c/50180/ 14:56:59
tilal6991 Why? 14:57:01
tilal6991 Why has the battery bar been rejected every time? 14:57:10
tilal6991 In the first instance it was a straight copy of MIUI 14:57:18
tilal6991 But after that? 14:57:24
cybojenix Uživatel „cybojenix“ je nyní znám jako cybojenix-away. 14:57:31
Dazzozo because a few guys in the core team dont use the feature 14:58:12
Dazzozo therefore it will never be merged 14:58:15
cybojenix-away Uživatel „cybojenix-away“ je nyní znám jako cybojenix. 14:58:19
Dazzozo thought you knew this by now tilal6991 14:58:24
tilal6991 Dazzozo: Tnks 14:58:33
tilal6991 Just finished downloading AOSP 14:59:12
Dazzozo i find it amazing how in any writing steve did about the changes to CM 14:59:49
Dazzozo he always talks about 14:59:53
Dazzozo "i wouldnt let it happen any other way" 14:59:57
Dazzozo "this is what CM is all about" 15:00:00
Dazzozo frankly 15:00:02
Dazzozo I don't think even YOU know wht CM is about 15:00:06
Dazzozo *what 15:00:09
Dazzozo and its your fucking project 15:00:15
Dazzozo community? you hardly interact with it 15:00:25
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tilal6991 Yup 15:00:40
tilal6991 Apart from -2ing things 15:00:47
Dazzozo he spoke once in #cyanogenmod-dev 15:00:47
Dazzozo in this year 15:00:48
Dazzozo once 15:00:49
Dazzozo once. 15:00:50
adfad666__ Steve's community is koush and arcee 15:00:51
tilal6991 ^^^^^^^^^^^^ 15:00:57
tilal6991 And Koush 15:01:04
tilal6991 Man 15:01:05
tilal6991 He has to be one of the most arrogant people alive 15:01:16
Dazzozo the chromecast shit was funny i have to agree 15:01:36
tilal6991 Yeah 15:01:45
jordilopez94 Uživatel jordilopez94 [~jordilope@77.224.208.20] vstoupil do místnosti. 15:02:23
Dazzozo "Not only were these good ideas, they were exactly in line with what CM is all about. What we have with CM could not have happened any other way—a huge community came together and created something awesome that did not exist before, because it was needed." 15:02:57
Dazzozo is his exact words 15:03:00
tilal6991 Then why is he trying to stop that? 15:03:15
tilal6991 Ugh 15:03:21
tilal6991 So irritating 15:03:33
tilal6991 Screw trying to get mint merged for 4.3 15:03:54
tilal6991 IDC anymore 15:04:01
rymate1234 welp 15:04:22
rymate1234 rip g300 15:04:25
rymate1234 rip crescent 15:04:28
rymate1234 rip y300 15:04:32
rymate1234 rip skate 15:04:35
rymate1234 rip cm 15:04:37
Dazzozo rip everything 15:04:39
tilal6991 rip alllllll the things 15:04:43
tilal6991 rymate1234: No worries 15:04:49
rymate1234 welp thats it guys 15:04:49
rymate1234 we might as well get windows phones now 15:05:00
tilal6991 Lol 15:05:03
rymate1234 tilal6991, no worries about what? 15:05:20
tilal6991 Skate dying 15:05:26
tilal6991 My mum still uses it 15:05:30
rymate1234 oh lol 15:05:33
tilal6991 So I'll keep supporting it 15:05:36
rymate1234 well IDC about skate any more 15:05:43
Dazzozo doing it for mommy 15:05:50
tilal6991 Plus I really want to know about kitkat now 15:05:52
tilal6991 And how it will affect everything 15:06:00
rymate1234 tilal6991, maybe it just means it'll be worldwide 15:06:25
tilal6991 Because honestly I think over 50% of CM users are there because they want an almost stock ROM that is in the latest version 15:06:30
rymate1234 nexus 5 will be sold everywheere 15:06:33
tilal6991 Stock being AOSP not stock manufacturer 15:06:49
tilal6991 rymate1234: ahhahahahhahaha 15:06:55
tilal6991 Lol 15:06:56
Dazzozo i still dont think 4.4 is worth another letter 15:06:57
Dazzozo it feels less of an update than 4.1 did 15:07:04
tilal6991 That's a ridiculous interpretation 15:07:05
tilal6991 Dazzozo: If it solves fragmentation it's worth a 5.0 release 15:07:20
rymate1234 well 15:07:54
Dazzozo really? 15:07:58
tilal6991 Yes 15:08:01
Dazzozo is a solution to fragmentation as big of a step up 15:08:04
Dazzozo as honeycomb to ics? 15:08:08
tilal6991 It might very well be 15:08:10
tilal6991 srsly in it's current state a solution to fragmentation looks a long way away 15:08:31
tilal6991 Progress has been made (seperating up frameworks/base) but it's still a long way to go 15:08:51
tilal6991 If they JUST focused on that this release I'd be happy 15:09:01
tilal6991 AOSP done 15:09:16
Dazzozo im interested but i seriously dont see what they could do 15:09:18
tilal6991 Let's do this 15:09:19
tilal6991 Dazzozo: Seperate out the native libs and the framework 15:09:35
tilal6991 libandroid_runtime is one of the few links 15:09:45
Dazzozo that doesnt stop people running gingerbread 15:09:47
tilal6991 Yes 15:09:50
tilal6991 SO? 15:09:52
Dazzozo thats what fragmentation is. 15:09:56
tilal6991 It's the framework that matters to app developers and for the actual OS itself 15:10:08
tilal6991 If the libs are GB so be it 15:10:13
rymate1234 but 15:10:13
rymate1234 you can't replace the framework 15:10:19
rymate1234 on a device 15:10:21
rymate1234 that's why it's the framework 15:10:27
tilal6991 rymate1234: In it's current state yes 15:10:27
tilal6991 But who knows what they've done? 15:10:36
Dazzozo so what are you actually suggesting? 15:10:37
Dazzozo downloadable framework? 15:10:40
rymate1234 tilal6991, but 15:10:41
tilal6991 Yes 15:10:43
Dazzozo thats actually impossible. 15:10:45
tilal6991 Not really 15:10:48
Dazzozo because of hardware customisation. 15:10:49
rymate1234 it won't apply for gingerbread devices 15:10:53
tilal6991 Nope 15:10:54
Dazzozo you dont know 15:10:57
tilal6991 rymate1234: Maybe not 15:10:59
Dazzozo whats in the framework already 15:11:00
Dazzozo for some devices 15:11:04
tilal6991 ICS and later? 15:11:04
Dazzozo when gingerbread has 30%? 15:11:21
tilal6991 Yeah 15:11:25
Dazzozo not a solution to fragmentation 15:11:26
tilal6991 GB will slowly die 15:11:30
Dazzozo ics is dying faster 15:11:33
tilal6991 And in the future no fragmentation 15:11:37
tilal6991 It's not a solution to fix what's there 15:11:45
rymate1234 but 15:11:51
tilal6991 It's a solution to fix the future 15:11:52
rymate1234 the problem is 15:11:54
rymate1234 the present 15:11:57
rymate1234 not the future 15:12:01
tilal6991 Yes 15:12:04
tilal6991 But the future 15:12:07
tilal6991 Will be the present 15:12:10
rymate1234 but 15:12:12
rymate1234 the reason there's fragmentation now 15:12:19
rymate1234 is because 4.x is drastically different to 2.x 15:12:27
tilal6991 I'm not sure you guys understand what I'm saying 15:12:36
rymate1234 and yet you can still get devices with 2.x 15:12:37
tilal6991 I don't think google is trying to solve fragmentation in the current state 15:12:49
tilal6991 And I don't think they can 15:12:55
rymate1234 once 2.x goes away. unless there's another drastic change fragmentation will no longer exist 15:13:00
Dazzozo then the description of kitkat is misleadin g 15:13:12
Dazzozo *misleading 15:13:15
tilal6991 Meh 15:13:21
tilal6991 We'll see 15:13:24
Dazzozo "It's our goal with Android KitKat to make an amazing Android experience available for everybody." 15:13:30
tilal6991 I'm interested to see what they mean 15:13:35
Dazzozo not available to everybody if it cant run on gingerbread devices 15:13:39
rymate1234 IT'S ACCESSIBILITY CHANGES 15:13:48
Dazzozo LOL 15:13:52
rymate1234 CALLING IT NOW 15:13:52
Dazzozo that would be pretty funny 15:14:03
tilal6991 Well technically it needs to run on donut/froyo as well 15:14:03
tilal6991 But that's not going to happen 15:14:11
rymate1234 >froyo 15:14:16
tilal6991 rymate1234: Might well be that 15:14:18
Dazzozo dont they have less than 3% 15:14:21
Dazzozo honestly, that can be ignored 15:14:25
Dazzozo gingerbread is the real problem 15:14:29
rymate1234 there's another issue 15:14:38
tilal6991 That's because Samsung 15:14:39
tilal6991 They're still selling GB phones 15:14:46
tilal6991 STILL 15:14:48
Dazzozo not really 15:14:55
rymate1234 >convincing gingerbread users to use 4.4 15:14:56
tilal6991 Dazzozo: Yup 15:15:00
Dazzozo a lot of people STILL have old htc phones 15:15:02
rymate1234 ^ my mum does 15:15:09
tilal6991 I know 15:16:30
tilal6991 But 'sung is still selling Galaxy aces 15:16:41
tilal6991 Dazzozo: Did you fix agl copybits? 15:17:53
rymate1234 http://www.carphonewarehouse.com/mobiles/mobile-phones/SAMSUNG_GALAXY_ACE/PPAY?colourCode=BLACK 15:17:54
rymate1234 yup 15:17:59
Dazzozo oh fuck i forgot 15:18:04
tilal6991 TOLD YOU ^ 15:18:06
rymate1234 "Inside the Samsung Galaxy Ace is a 1,350mAh battery that powers the phone on standby for up to 420 hours and 6.5 hours for calls. The software in the Ace is Android Gingerbread 2.3, the most popular version, and it still has access to over 850,000 apps. The 800MHz processor is plenty fast enough for most activities, and the 3.5" screen is good for its class. A resolution of 320x480 gives 165 pix 15:18:13
rymate1234 els per inch (PPI), while the 5MP camera is also good and sharp. Built-in memory is 158MB, but there's space for a microSD card (sold separately) up to 32GB for more space for photos and your music." 15:18:13
rymate1234 my god it's terrible 15:18:29
Dazzozo >the most popular version. 15:18:30
tilal6991 "Android Gingerbread 2.3, the most popular version," WRONG 15:18:32
Dazzozo its funny though 15:18:37
tilal6991 Used to be 15:18:39
Dazzozo because its close. 15:18:39
tilal6991 Not anymore lol 15:18:41
tilal6991 Yeah I guess 15:18:45
rymate1234 y300 is cheaper guys http://www.carphonewarehouse.com/mobiles/mobile-phones/HUAWEI_Y300/PPAY?colourCode=WHITE 15:19:02
rymate1234 but it doesn't samsung 15:19:06
rymate1234 so is shit 15:19:08
tilal6991 Yup 15:19:20
tilal6991 15:19:21
tilal6991 The phone actually ooks pretty good 15:19:48
tilal6991 Shame about capacitive keys though 15:20:02
rymate1234 so 15:20:19
Dazzozo WOW the y300 is cheap 15:20:44
Dazzozo didnt think it was that cheap 15:20:52
Dazzozo thought it was closer to £100 15:20:58
tilal6991 Yeah that's really cheap 15:21:19
tilal6991 Dazzozo: All I'll say about the people creating drama today is that you can either listen to angry rants full of inaccurate information, or you can listen to the guys who have consistently delivered quality stuff for years and who will continue to do so. 15:22:08
tilal6991 OH 15:22:10
tilal6991 Cyanogen ^ 15:22:14
Dazzozo where'd he say that? 15:22:26
tilal6991 His G+ 15:22:45
tilal6991 Just a few mins ago 15:22:50
Dazzozo seems like a cop out 15:23:30
Dazzozo again 15:23:37
Dazzozo a "you really think we would do that" 15:23:41
Dazzozo well, thats what the drama is for 15:23:48
Dazzozo are you going to confirm or deny that happened 15:23:51
tilal6991 Yup 15:25:16
Dazzozo "No single person or even a group of 15 people can take the credit of all the features that are available today." 15:25:46
Dazzozo thats a good point. 15:25:48
Dazzozo he pretty much just claimed 15:25:51
Dazzozo that everything in CM 15:25:53
Dazzozo is down to that team 15:25:55
tilal6991 Dazzozo: 15:26:09
tilal6991 A future conversation with Steve Kondik will reveal that they might need to put hardware-specific enhancement for some camera devices, and that has to be hacked in the Camera app code. [...] Of course, those hardware enhancements are trade secrets, so they cannot be published back to CyanogenMod’s public repositories... 15:26:09
tilal6991 That's what worries me the most about a commercial CyanogenMod. It doesn't really matter if they remove a few power-user features or disable root by default - that's what AOKP and PA are for. However, AOKP and PA both depend on CyanogenMod's device trees for hardware support. 15:26:10
tilal6991 If CM starts adding closed source bits for certain hardware features to comply with "trade secrets", then "fork it" is no longer an answer. Forks wouldn't be able to just add back in what CM took out, they would have to do to CM what CM has spent years doing to hardware - reverse engineer or reimplement hardware features. And if CM, Inc. starts snatching up the top Android talent, that might be a very hard thing to do. 15:26:12
Dazzozo seen it 15:26:21
tilal6991 Linux is what CM should be like 15:28:29
Dazzozo is Steve going to tell us how the info is inaccurate? 15:29:18
Dazzozo is he going to confirm or deny it? 15:29:22
Dazzozo no 15:29:32
Dazzozo he fucking isnt 15:29:34
tilal6991 Koush has struck me as a money first guy since he ripped out a stock launcher (Froyo, I think) and put it on the Market for a price. Shame to see CM spiral down this path. 15:31:03
tilal6991 So true 15:31:06
adfad666__ lol you guys 15:32:27
adfad666__ so much hate 15:32:31
Dazzozo i dont hate anything 15:32:40
Dazzozo i think steve's response is so typical 15:32:57
Dazzozo and im really tired of it 15:33:02
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tilal6991 Dazzozo: Starting AOSP for mint 15:35:04
Dazzozo lol 15:35:10
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tilal6991 Dazzozo: I'm serious about the hardware support thing though 15:38:15
Dazzozo it was an idea on reddit a while back 15:38:41
Dazzozo and it seemed pretty popular 15:38:54
tilal6991 Well I think now might be the time to do it 15:38:55
Dazzozo i think its about getting people on board more than anything 15:38:58
tilal6991 Well with your awesome power in the android community I'm sure you can manage lol 15:39:21
Dazzozo its not a particularly hard project 15:39:30
tilal6991 Well yeah 15:39:36
Dazzozo it just needs to be popular 15:39:38
tilal6991 It's my sort of thing though 15:39:45
tilal6991 I'm not good with frameworks/base and settings 15:39:53
tilal6991 but HW code 15:39:56
tilal6991 That's what I can do 15:39:59
adfad666 pretty much all you need to do is fork CAF 15:40:13
tilal6991 Integrated kernel build system 15:40:16
tilal6991 adfad666: Noooooooooooooooooo 15:40:19
Dazzozo no way 15:40:25
tilal6991 That's a minefield we DON'T want to enter 15:40:28
Dazzozo CAF is a lot more than just MSM support for Android 15:40:44
Kra1o5 Uživatel Kra1o5 [~kratos@252.47.218.87.dynamic.jazztel.es] vstoupil do místnosti. 15:40:46
Kra1o5 yo 15:40:54
adfad666 well, what's the difference with pure CAF and AOSP, apart from hardware support? 15:40:58
tilal6991 A lot 15:41:10
tilal6991 They add a ton of other code 15:41:20
Dazzozo you want an example or something? 15:41:53
Dazzozo straight from the CAF repo listing 15:42:00
Dazzozo right at the top 15:42:03
Dazzozo AllJoyn. 15:42:04
Dazzozo additionally, CAF isolates code in branches, not in ifdefs 15:43:00
Dazzozo I can't build for msm7627a on the latest branch 15:43:10
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Dazzozo you can cry "it's deprecated!" but 8225 and 8225q arent 15:44:24
adfad666 does either of 8225/q have a higher branch than 4.1? 15:45:39
adfad666 i haven't seen a new 7x27a branch for a long time 15:46:19
rymate1234 7x27a suxx 15:47:10
rymate1234 y300 is where it's at 15:47:18
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fefifofum hi 15:49:22
Dazzozo adfad666: i dont know but i remember a device running 4.2 15:51:19
Dazzozo yo 15:51:22
Kra1o5 ZTE 15:53:40
Kra1o5 probably 15:53:50
tilal6991 Dazzozo: Build has started 15:55:49
Kra1o5 http://www.gsmarena.com/zte_n880e-4880.php 15:55:54
Dazzozo oh god 15:55:54
tilal6991 Needed like 5 changes in the build system to get it started itsel 15:56:04
tilal6991 * itself 15:56:07
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tilal6991 Dazzozo: Which inaccuracies? grabs popcorn 15:59:20
tilal6991 LOL 15:59:22
Dazzozo where 15:59:32
tilal6991 On cyanogen's post 15:59:47
tilal6991 xplodwid 15:59:51
Dazzozo oh my god. 15:59:56
rymate1234 link? 16:00:04
tilal6991 https://plus.google.com/100275307499530023476/posts/W69a552ZYiN 16:00:23
Dazzozo yeah 16:00:34
Dazzozo you cant permalink comments on g+ 16:00:43
Dazzozo gay as a hell 16:00:45
tilal6991 Lol 16:00:48
rymate1234 This post could not be found. 16:00:55
rymate1234 Your URL may be incorrect, the post may have been deleted, or this account may not have access to the post. 16:00:55
Dazzozo works for me 16:01:03
tilal6991 And me 16:01:08
Dazzozo im not even signed in to G+ 16:01:10
rymate1234 odd 16:01:12
tilal6991 https://plus.google.com/100275307499530023476 16:01:30
tilal6991 Latest post 16:01:34
Dazzozo so fucking true though 16:02:01
Dazzozo no inaccuracy there 16:02:06
Dazzozo he DID say that 16:02:09
Dazzozo i dont really think xplodwild has a reason to lie, either 16:02:29
Dazzozo CM has to defend itself now 16:02:42
Dazzozo if they didnt do this shit 16:03:01
adfad666 7.7 million total install of CyanogenMod 16:03:06
Dazzozo that would be great! focal would stay, xplodwild would stay and we would all be happy 16:03:10
adfad666 isn't that more than windows Phone? 16:03:12
tilal6991 Lol 16:03:14
Dazzozo yeah 16:03:16
rymate1234 well yeah 16:03:18
Dazzozo but windows phone is growing quicker 16:03:20
Dazzozo than CM 16:03:21
rymate1234 7.7 million > 10 16:03:26
adfad666 the stats is broken though, last 24 hours says 0 even though the number is increasing if you refresh 16:04:17
adfad666 http://stats.cyanogenmod.org/ 16:04:38
adfad666 p500 still in the top list 16:05:10
rymate1234 Dazzozo, im getting this post could not be found with every google+ post 16:14:03
Dazzozo LOL 16:14:10
Dazzozo rymate1234: http://i.thebronasium.com/yuki/20130920-171315.png 16:14:30
rymate1234 oh lol 16:14:57
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Dazzozo "Sounds like a "everyone on the other side is wrong" argument to me. Instead of providing "accurate information" with proof, or simply manning up to admit it, they are resorting to name-calling. I'm not impressed. 16:19:41
Dazzozo " 16:19:42
Dazzozo so 16:20:01
Dazzozo goddamn 16:20:02
Dazzozo typical 16:20:02
tilal6991 Who is this? 16:20:15
tilal6991 Dazzozo: ^ 16:21:53
Dazzozo someone on reddit 16:22:49
tilal6991 About? 16:23:37
Dazzozo what do you think 16:24:39
Dazzozo lol 16:24:41
Dazzozo what post mentioned "inaccurate information" 16:24:48
tilal6991 Oh yeah I guess 16:26:01
Dazzozo http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=uqj4aRfOjXI 16:28:45
tilal6991 LOL 16:29:19
lakyljuk78 Uživatel lakyljuk78 [~spravce@188-175-36-228.client.rionet.cz] vstoupil do místnosti. 16:32:25
Dazzozo tilal6991: hows AOSP 16:34:13
tilal6991 Meh 16:34:20
tilal6991 Build is taking a while to fix 16:34:27
rymate1234 no shit 16:34:31
tilal6991 rymate1234: Not as bad as you might thing 16:35:45
tilal6991 * think 16:35:47
tilal6991 Integrated kernel building is a pain 16:35:57
rymate1234 lol 16:36:11
tilal6991 Just cloning busybox now 16:36:14
Dazzozo http://store.steampowered.com/livingroom/ 16:36:58
Dazzozo tilal6991 16:40:29
Dazzozo rymate1234 16:40:30
Dazzozo https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=lV1c8nzDp5s 16:40:31
Dazzozo great. 16:40:36
Dazzozo fucking 16:40:39
Dazzozo great. 16:40:40
tilal6991 What 16:40:52
tilal6991 a 16:40:53
tilal6991 surprise 16:40:55
tilal6991 But 16:41:02
tilal6991 Wait 16:41:03
tilal6991 AHAHAHHAHAHA 16:41:05
Dazzozo kill me now 16:41:13
tilal6991 Their main contact until now was Entropy 16:41:13
tilal6991 Pahahahahhaha 16:41:17
Dazzozo this was quite possibly the worst time for the trailer to go live 16:42:00
tilal6991 Yup 16:42:33
rymate1234 Rip oppo 16:44:23
Dazzozo BREAKING NEWS a anonymous source has confirmed that CM also known as Cyanogen Mod will be partnering with OPPO as their hardware partner. CM who had recently made waves all across the internet when the announced they will be partnering with a hardware OEM will be shipping on future OPPO devices as a option right from boot. Apparently their will be no money to be exchanged in the deal so we are not 1 16:44:25
Dazzozo 00% on the details but it is confirmed to be shipping with 10.1 and not 10.2 . 16:44:25
cybojenix Uživatel „cybojenix“ je nyní znám jako cybojenix-away. 16:45:11
adfad666 7 million and they couldn't find a microphone 16:45:31
Dazzozo and hes still pointlessly showing off google glass 16:45:56
Dazzozo it also looked like he went on camera without knowing what to say 16:46:05
unaszplodrmann tosspot 16:46:14
Dazzozo "in beijing" 16:46:16
Dazzozo was like 16:46:17
unaszplodrmann steve, that is 16:46:20
Dazzozo slow teleprompter reading 16:46:24
tilal6991 Lol 16:47:21
unaszplodrmann I wonder why poking the community in the eye just as alternatives that might lure devs away are emerging? Seems a risky strat to me 16:56:54
Dazzozo i have a feeling 17:00:14
Dazzozo they might've gone live with the oppo trailer 17:00:20
Dazzozo to try and drown out the focal news 17:00:27
Dazzozo lol 17:00:29
Dazzozo +Steve Kondik If you feel content with your decisions, then you shouldn't need to defend them with this post. Are you implying that +Guillaume Lesniak doesn't deliver "quality stuff"? Your attitude towards this makes me think that you're losing sight of why/how CM is what it is today. This is disheartening to say the least. 17:04:10
Dazzozo i said something so similar earlier lol 17:04:18
Dazzozo "losing sight" 17:04:22
tilal6991 Dazzozo: I think there's definitely a neeed and want for AODP now 17:06:10
tilal6991 That's the provisional name for this 17:06:16
Dazzozo android open duck project 17:08:08
tilal6991 Device 17:08:23
tilal6991 Close 17:08:25
Dazzozo dam 17:08:29
Dazzozo +nick martin Actually, I had suggested a MySQL-style dual GPL license because I know that this is a complicated area and after talking to Xplod, I mistakenly thought he shared my desire to grow the project. A breach of trust (now confirmed in one of Andy's posts) soured the whole thing for me. 17:10:23
Dazzozo Anyway +Guillaume Lesniak I'm really sorry we ended up here. I feel like my intentions were good and some miscommunication on both sides caused this mess. 17:10:23
Dazzozo lol 17:10:24
tilal6991 +nick martin Actually, I had suggested a MySQL-style dual GPL license because I know that this is a complicated area and after talking to Xplod, I mistakenly thought he shared my desire to grow the project. A breach of trust (now confirmed in one of Andy's posts) soured the whole thing for me. 17:11:20
tilal6991 Anyway +Guillaume Lesniak I'm really sorry we ended up here. I feel like my intentions were good and some miscommunication on both sides caused this mess. 17:11:21
tilal6991 Lol 17:11:23
tilal6991 Minute too late 17:11:27
Dazzozo rekt. 17:11:31
tilal6991 I was just reading that post to the end 17:11:42
tilal6991 libwebcore 17:12:56
tilal6991 I think it's building 17:13:01
adfad666 Android Open Development Project? 17:13:03
tilal6991 Device project 17:13:08
tilal6991 It's focus is devices 17:13:12
tilal6991 Only devices 17:13:14
tilal6991 I'm not even going to bother forking any packages 17:13:25
Dazzozo remember the simpler times 17:13:34
tilal6991 Or even frameworks/base if I can help it 17:13:36
Dazzozo when all we had to shit on 17:13:38
Dazzozo was OEMs 17:13:44
tilal6991 Lol 17:13:48
tilal6991 Join #aodp 17:13:57
tilal6991 Lol 17:13:58
Dazzozo you probably will have to fork packages 17:14:05
adfad666 then call it Android Devices or GTFO Project 17:14:06
Dazzozo for device support 17:14:07
Dazzozo eventually 17:14:14
tilal6991 Maybe 17:14:19
tilal6991 Phone? 17:14:22
Dazzozo and frameworks/base too 17:14:23
tilal6991 Mmms? 17:14:24
tilal6991 That's about it though 17:14:29
Dazzozo Bluetooth too I would reckon 17:14:29
tilal6991 Deffo not settings 17:14:32
tilal6991 Yeah BT as well 17:14:46
Dazzozo it'll only be a few 17:14:47
tilal6991 Yeah 17:14:51
Dazzozo but cross those bridges when you come to them 17:14:53
Rostilj Uživatel Rostilj [~Rostilj@178.79.46.121] vstoupil do místnosti. 17:14:54
tilal6991 Nowhere near the total forking CM does 17:15:01
adfad666 CM uses the google toolchains at least 17:16:12
adfad666 last i checked, anyway 17:16:17
Dazzozo yus 17:16:30
tilal6991 Yup 17:16:33
tilal6991 That's it though 17:16:38
tilal6991 Evevrything else is forked pretty much 17:16:45
tilal6991 Uživatel „tilal6991“ je nyní znám jako tilal6991|away. 17:20:06
tilal6991|away Uživatel „tilal6991|away“ je nyní znám jako tilal6991. 17:20:20
tilal6991 Dazzozo: getting fibre on the 26th 17:20:38
tilal6991 2 days before I leave lol 17:20:42
Dazzozo lol 17:23:02
cybojenix-away Uživatel „cybojenix-away“ je nyní znám jako cybojenix. 17:27:18
unaszplodrmann http://packages.debian.org/jessie/steam bye, bye Ubuntu 17:42:17
rymate1234 THAT'S NON FREE SOFTWARE 17:42:44
rymate1234 DAMMIT DEBIAN 17:42:51
unaszplodrmann rofl 17:42:51
unaszplodrmann that's why it's in non-free, eh 17:43:21
Dazzozo http://www.androidpolice.com/2013/09/20/google-adds-probable-android-4-4-screenshot-to-korean-keyboard-update-shows-new-status-bar-with-gray-icons-and-klp-debug-icon/ 17:45:29
Dazzozo unaszplodrmann: couldnt you use it on debian before? 17:46:18
Dazzozo steam updates itself 17:46:20
tilal6991 Yay 17:47:12
Dazzozo but tilal6991 17:49:17
Dazzozo #33b5e5 17:49:19
Dazzozo ;-; 17:49:20
tilal6991 NOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOO 17:49:23
tilal6991 I'm sure it'll be customizable 17:49:30
tilal6991 Otherwise 17:49:33
tilal6991 I'll be annoyed 17:49:35
tilal6991 Considering I'll have to update my app again 17:49:45
Dazzozo it must be 17:49:48
tilal6991 Yeah 17:49:53
Dazzozo otherwise android is basically 17:49:54
Dazzozo colourless 17:49:56
tilal6991 So we're OK 17:49:57
tilal6991 Lol 17:49:59
tilal6991 Dazzozo: http://www.androidpolice.com/2013/09/20/omate-truesmart-finishes-kickstarter-campaign-with-10x-100k-target-bulks-up-with-multiple-stretch-goal-improvements/ 17:50:38
rymate1234 tilal6991, it's a guideline 17:50:39
tilal6991 Oh 17:50:39
rymate1234 lmao 17:50:40
tilal6991 My 17:50:40
tilal6991 Gawd 17:50:42
rymate1234 you don't have to fucking use holo blue 17:50:50
tilal6991 rymate1234: YESSSSSSSSSSSSS IIIIIIIIIIIIIIII DOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOO 17:51:04
rymate1234 and you won't have to change your app colour if google changes the main colour 17:51:08
tilal6991 That's true though 17:51:21
Dazzozo tilal6991: http://b.thumbs.redditmedia.com/hviWJJ6evPSqU7W1.png 17:51:29
tilal6991 Exactly ^ 17:51:39
rymate1234 #HOLO #SWAG 17:51:46
tilal6991 #HOLOYOLO 17:52:00
rymate1234 http://www.ebay.com.au/itm/4-X-one-direction-tickets-sydney-Friday-25th-October-/171129708772 17:53:11
rymate1234 LMAO 17:53:12
tilal6991 http://www.androidpolice.com/2013/09/20/sprint-one-up-is-official-get-yearly-upgrades-and-unlimited-talk-text-and-data-guaranteed-for-life-for-65-a-month/ 17:53:41
tilal6991 rymate1234: BLODDY HELL 17:53:51
rymate1234 yeah 17:53:59
Dazzozo LOL 17:54:01
tilal6991 Laughing at the state of the American contract market 17:54:05
rymate1234 i just 17:54:20
rymate1234 buy a phone 17:54:22
rymate1234 and keep it for however long i want 17:54:27
Dazzozo ^ 17:54:35
rymate1234 i can get unlimited data for £12 17:54:43
rymate1234 talking and texting is meh as I don't use them 17:54:52
tilal6991 LOL 17:54:59
tilal6991 I didn't read the description 17:55:08
tilal6991 I thought you were talking about how much they were seeling for 17:55:21
tilal6991 But ROFL at the description 17:55:28
Dazzozo Uživatel Dazzozo změnil téma na: #huawei-g300 | G300 innovation station | home of the G300's CyanogenMod® port and children | News: Cyanogen Inc. is literally Hitler. 17:55:38
adfad666 the contract system there seems nothing but absolute butt rape 17:55:45
rymate1234 tilal6991, I'm talking about both lmao 17:56:06
tilal6991 Lol 17:56:10
tilal6991 The desctiption is more hilarious than the price TBH 17:56:21
adfad666 well, it's one other the other, cheap phones or cheap contracts 17:56:26
unaszplodrmann Dazzozo: you could yeah, but it wasn't in the official repos 17:57:38
Dazzozo didnt really need to be 17:57:49
Dazzozo you only need to install it 17:57:55
Dazzozo once 17:58:03
Dazzozo and then it sorts itself out 17:58:10
unaszplodrmann you can run in loads of distros... doesn't mean it will won't be a bugfest though 17:59:17
unaszplodrmann having Debian officially supported is good news 17:59:39
Dazzozo i expect it to be a bugfest on ubuntu 17:59:45
Dazzozo never mind anything else 17:59:47
Dazzozo its a bugfest on windows 17:59:54
Dazzozo friend tweeted earlier 18:00:02
Dazzozo new steam features, no steam IMPROVEMENTS 18:00:07
Dazzozo the client sucks ever since the 2010 (i think) redesign 18:00:44
tilal6991 Lol 18:00:55
unaszplodrmann when you put it that way lol 18:02:18
unaszplodrmann yeah, I'm on raring atm and yup, Steam is a pretty grissly affair 18:03:02
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lakyljuk78 Dazz, any ideas why cm 10.2 20/9 nightly makes phone unable to boot? Read a few reports on forum. 18:33:48
rymate1234 because cm suxx 18:34:24
Dazzozo its broken 18:34:29
Dazzozo no idea why 18:34:38
adfad666 cyanogen removed ALL the things 18:34:39
adfad666 you have to pay him to make it work again 18:34:45
Dazzozo nothing in the changelog seems to be that fatal 18:34:50
lakyljuk78 adfad666: seems legit 18:35:32
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Valicek1 Nyní jste znám jako Valicek2. 19:33:44
Téma konverzace „#huawei-g300“ je: #huawei-g300 | G300 innovation station | home of the G300's CyanogenMod® port and children | News: Cyanogen Inc. is literally Hitler. 19:33:50
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Dazzozo http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=XewXEA8aWr8 19:39:59
tilal6991 Dazzozo: LOLOLOLOL 19:42:29
Dazzozo http://ifixit.org/5315/apples-a7-processor-is-made-by-samsung/ 19:43:40
tilal6991 Yeah I saw 19:45:00
rymate1234 it would wake me up 19:52:34
modacouserr what are you going to work with dazzozo? now that cm is gone 19:54:18
modacouserr i really wanna try slimbean 4.3 19:54:51
rymate1234 aosp 19:54:52
modacouserr oh, right 19:55:03
modacouserr so the last usable build is 19/09 19:56:29
modacouserr 20/09 is broken 19:56:40
modacouserr gonna update now, if that's worth it lol 19:56:49
rymate1234 http://www.carphonewarehouse.com/mobiles/mobile-phones/HUAWEI_Y300/PPAYUPG?colourCode=BLACK http://www.carphonewarehouse.com/mobiles/mobile-phones/HUAWEI_G510/PPAYUPG?colourCode=BLACK 20:06:21
rymate1234 what's the difference 20:06:25
rymate1234 nvm screens bigger 20:06:43
Dazzozo the device is practically the same 20:07:10
rymate1234 wat 20:07:18
Dazzozo same kernel release 20:07:19
rymate1234 so it's a skate / crescent situation 20:07:31
rymate1234 but with an actual decent chipset 20:07:44
modacouserr i think im in a bootloop 20:09:27
modacouserr oh no, just ended lol after this much minutes 20:09:39
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jordilopez94 Uživatel jordilopez94 [~jordilope@77.224.208.20] vstoupil do místnosti. 20:10:00
rymate1234 OH MY 20:10:07
rymate1234 THE Y300 HAS 20:10:11
rymate1234 AN INTERNET BROWSER 20:10:16
modacouserr if it gives you internet access without wifi/3g on, then i really really want it 20:11:40
modacouserr omg 20:19:28
modacouserr every time i reboot into recovery, my battery just drops like hell 20:19:47
modacouserr now i rebooted after change density 20:19:54
modacouserr and gained 3% 20:19:58
Dazzozo recovery destroys battery on every device lol 20:22:17
tilal6991 Yup 20:22:22
tilal6991 Mint loses several percent in recovery 20:22:32
Dazzozo i think it runs at max clock speed 20:22:36
Dazzozo 100% of the time 20:22:41
tilal6991 20:22:44
tilal6991 http://www.xda-developers.com/android/leaked-t-mobile-moto-x-4-3-dump-appears-now-flashable/ 20:23:05
rymate1234 so yeah 20:48:30
rymate1234 i think the y300 and my mums birthday present is achievable 20:48:41
tilal6991 Dazzozo: Where do I need to put the init files? 20:49:36
rymate1234 - i can spend just £10 a week on lunch instead of £20 by not buying drinks (£10 a week) 20:49:44
rymate1234 - I already have £40 20:49:56
Dazzozo tilal6991: wat 20:50:04
modacouserr you are just like me rymate1234 lol 20:50:06
tilal6991 Dazzozo: For logging 20:50:10
Dazzozo logging? 20:50:16
tilal6991 I don't have adb logcat 20:50:18
Dazzozo you mean the script? 20:50:24
tilal6991 Yeah 20:50:27
Dazzozo data/local/userinit.sh 20:50:33
Dazzozo iirc 20:50:34
rymate1234 - I have birthday coming up, which means I might recieve an unknown amount of money between £5 and £20 per family member 20:50:36
modacouserr well, i'm not that lucky in family member number soooo 20:51:24
rymate1234 i have like 3 who could potentially give me money this year 20:51:43
modacouserr lucky you 20:52:13
modacouserr good luck btw 20:52:25
rymate1234 I might buy my y300 around christmas time assuming my crescent doesn't totally break before then 20:52:59
rymate1234 why? 20:53:02
rymate1234 christmas sales <3 20:53:10
modacouserr true 20:53:27
modacouserr i would love to get a new phone, one with 1gb ram 20:53:37
modacouserr but it's not the right time to do such 20:53:45
modacouserr driver license + car ... well, i have to work A LOT to get them 20:54:01
modacouserr plus, fuel 20:54:07
rymate1234 save money! 20:54:23
rymate1234 don't bother with a fucking car 20:54:27
rymate1234 ...unless you need it to travel long distances 20:55:25
modacouserr i do save money, but i do more need a car and this phone works for me, so buying a new one isn't that needed 20:55:28
modacouserr dog walking, brb 20:55:41
rymate1234 yeah well mine has the following faults 20:56:31
rymate1234 1. shit processor 20:56:36
rymate1234 2. cracked screen 20:56:42
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Dazzozo holoyolo 22:22:29
tilal6991 Uživatel „tilal6991“ je nyní znám jako tilal6991|away. 22:22:47
fefifofum wat 22:22:57
tilal6991|away Uživatel „tilal6991|away“ je nyní znám jako tilal6991. 23:06:18
tilal6991 +fefifofum: #holoyolo 23:14:17
tilal6991 Dazzozo: can't sleep. 23:14:29
Dazzozo i can never sleep until 4am 23:14:40
tilal6991 Good reaction on reedit so far. 23:14:44
Dazzozo night owl 23:14:46
fefifofum 23:14:49
tilal6991 Lol 23:14:50
fefifofum i'm fighting with bluetooth on cm10.1 23:15:26
Dazzozo a bunch of people have started restoring bluez in cm10.1 instead 23:16:17
Dazzozo because it works better on older hardware 23:16:26
Dazzozo loool 23:16:26
fefifofum i have to check that option 23:16:52
Dazzozo yeah 23:16:57
Dazzozo it is an option if bluedroid wont stop being an ass 23:17:06
tilal6991 Lol 23:17:06
fefifofum but i'm close now, it starts and can see other devices, but cannot pair 23:17:11
Dazzozo G300 works pretty well on bluedroid 23:19:00
Dazzozo sleep is pretty awkward 23:19:08
Dazzozo and tethering doesnt work on 10.2 for god knows what fucking reason 23:19:16
Dazzozo i'd like to fix everything on bluedroid but yeah 23:20:01
Dazzozo easier said than done etc 23:20:06
fefifofum yes 23:20:12
fefifofum now it detect the chip with the wrong name, so I had to rename the firmware file to the wrong name 23:21:34
fefifofum otherwise it's not used and bluetooth cannot see other devices 23:21:49
tilal6991 @Dazzozo: I have indirect contact with xplodwid 23:23:18
Dazzozo how 23:24:22
Dazzozo also does your app add these extraneous +s and @s to name tagging 23:24:51
Dazzozo theyre not necessary in chat messages 23:24:58
tilal6991 @Dazzozo: guy called uberlaggydarwin that I know through holoirc 23:25:08
tilal6991 Yes it does. 23:25:13
tilal6991 It was a remnant from ages ago. 23:25:22
Dazzozo thought so 23:25:26
tilal6991 I can get rid of it now. 23:25:30
Dazzozo do it 23:25:38
Dazzozo its bothering me lol 23:25:40
tilal6991 The code it depended on changes. 23:25:42
tilal6991 * changed. 23:25:45
tilal6991 So its possible now. 23:25:52
Dazzozo lol 23:25:55
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Dazzozo tilal6991: you found a dev on reddit 23:37:44
Dazzozo lol 23:37:48
tilal6991 Yay 23:37:52
tilal6991 Ill have to put out another post in a few days time actually announcing the start of the project. 23:38:36
Dazzozo lol 23:39:04
tilal6991 Then I get people to pester their devs. 23:40:15
tilal6991 It seems xplodwid likes the idea. Dazzozo < 23:43:06
Dazzozo did he comment? 23:43:46
tilal6991 And more people are leaving cm. Dazzozo. 23:43:47
Dazzozo where 23:43:52
Dazzozo omg 23:43:52
Dazzozo where are you finding this 23:43:56
Dazzozo i must know the news 23:43:59
tilal6991 Uberlaggydarwin. 23:44:03
Dazzozo o 23:44:12
tilal6991 He spike with xplodwid on g talk. 23:44:14
tilal6991 Seems like more people are leaving. 23:44:37
tilal6991 And the BABBq is where its all gonna go down. 23:44:53
tilal6991 Massive meeting where it all happens. 23:46:06
tilal6991 Omg. 23:46:09
tilal6991 I want the day to arrive. 23:46:22
tilal6991 And pronto. 23:46:25
Dazzozo lol 23:47:12
Dazzozo my N4 arrived at that guy's house 23:49:05
tilal6991 Nice 23:49:23
Dazzozo and I have proof of delivery )) 23:49:30
Dazzozo dat tracking 23:49:40
tilal6991 Lol 23:50:05
tilal6991 @Dazzozo: bloody hell. 23:51:28
tilal6991 Every time I refresh the post is up voted a few votes more 23:51:46
Dazzozo yeah its hot on /r/Android now 23:52:23
tilal6991 Awesome. 23:53:00
Dazzozo i told you people think its a cool idea lol 23:53:13
tilal6991 Love it when a plan comes together. 23:53:15
tilal6991 Lol 23:53:22
tilal6991 @Dazzozo: going to have another attempt at sleeping. 23:56:36
tilal6991 Gn 23:56:40
Dazzozo cya 23:56:42
fefifofum gl 23:57:00
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