#huawei-g300 chanel log 2013-09-18

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I'm sorry for not actual logs - my FTP uploads are reduced a lot, i'm working on new solution..

Expected startup is about 10.2.2014

SilvesterBot Starting build #142 for job android 00:00:57
SilvesterBot Project android build #142: SUCCESS in 30 min: http://jenkins.thebronasium.com/job/android/142/ 00:31:13
Dazzozo wow tonight is boring 00:45:50
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Valicek1 Nyní jste znám jako Valicek2. 03:13:15
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Kra1o5 yo 11:30:51
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djuroue yo Kra1o5 12:00:27
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Dazzozo yo 13:17:46
Alkalinorap hi 13:21:26
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Dazzozo dude i got up half hour ago 13:29:54
Dazzozo what 13:29:54
Dazzozo happened 13:29:56
Dazzozo to my sleep schedule 13:29:59
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rymate1234 Want to update apps on iOS? 14:36:32
rymate1234 No money in your bank account? 14:36:40
rymate1234 TOUGH SHIT 14:36:46
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cybojenix hecatae been on in a while? 14:38:48
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Dazzozo who? 15:04:07
Dazzozo 15:04:08
Dazzozo dddd 15:04:10
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cybojenix l3 person, one of the mods at modaco 15:07:08
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rymate1234 http://www.theverge.com/2013/9/18/4742828/cyanogen-raises-7-million-to-build-the-best-version-of-android 16:23:40
rymate1234 ITS HAPPENING 16:23:43
Dazzozo finally lol 16:28:32
Dazzozo 1 month late 16:28:34
rymate1234 sounds meh 16:29:39
Dazzozo tbh this was obvious 16:30:06
Dazzozo so 16:30:23
Dazzozo they got investment 16:30:25
Dazzozo now wheres the profit 16:30:28
cybojenix I hope the installer doesn't have ads 16:30:46
Solitary I dont think there will be profit 16:30:54
Dazzozo i dont think there will be ads either 16:31:01
cybojenix imagine if it slipstreamed apps into the roms when it installs... 16:31:02
Solitary don't they work as nonprofit organization? 16:31:07
Dazzozo could be 16:31:34
Dazzozo we dont have details 16:31:35
Dazzozo all we know is they incorporated 16:31:39
Dazzozo afaik 16:31:50
cybojenix they might do premium stuff in the future. they can't just be dependant on others 16:32:16
Dazzozo look at mozilla 16:32:30
cybojenix and it's become their full time job as well 16:32:31
Dazzozo i guess they want to be mozilla 16:32:41
cybojenix yeah 16:32:45
Solitary I did not read the report, but I guess they want to cooperate with some big companies to implement CM onto their devices? 16:32:48
cybojenix yeah that's the hint 16:33:05
Dazzozo theres been mentions of a lot of stuff 16:33:05
Dazzozo their own hardware too 16:33:09
Dazzozo and an easy CM installer 16:33:12
Dazzozo for all devices 16:33:13
cybojenix they've partnered with an unnamed hardware company 16:33:31
Dazzozo yep 16:33:40
cybojenix if it's silocon valley.. apple.. 16:34:23
cybojenix :L 16:34:24
Dazzozo http://cdn3.sbnation.com/entry_photo_images/8962807/CMInstaller_1_large_verge_medium_landscape.png 16:35:17
Solitary maybe Nokia, to help them out 16:35:18
Dazzozo thats funny 16:35:20
Solitary 16:35:20
Dazzozo because 16:35:22
Dazzozo it looks like theres an iphone there 16:35:26
Dazzozo lol 16:35:26
Solitary and iPad too 16:35:43
cybojenix holey shit they are. 16:35:47
Dazzozo lol 16:36:11
rymate1234 Can't wait to have a device that might actually support it fully 16:36:17
Dazzozo The company plans to keep its firmware free. So how will it become profitable? McMaster and Kondik say they have many ideas for generating revenue, but declined to discuss them in depth. "If you’re the default OS on a device and you have 50 million users, there are a lot of ways to make money," McMaster says. "It’s not just about building a user base. It’s about building great services you can 16:37:31
Dazzozo ’t get anywhere else." 16:37:32
Dazzozo doesnt look like nonprofit then 16:38:03
Solitary so basically they don't know 16:38:04
Dazzozo http://mitchlasky.biz/cyanogen-mod/ 16:38:46
Dazzozo here we go 16:38:47
rymate1234 i can't wait to see what happens 16:40:13
Dazzozo its not a big deal 16:40:33
rymate1234 i can't wait to see what features androidarmv6 remove 16:40:35
Dazzozo its either awesome or people move to other roms 16:40:53
Dazzozo CM has a lot of users but it needs to think about who its users are 16:41:12
Dazzozo it can easily make a bad move 16:41:16
Dazzozo and rip 16:41:29
cybojenix true, however the way it's going, it's trying to move away from the users, into actually making a proper cm device 16:41:49
Solitary I really don't see how they want to make profit other then ads or something similar... 16:41:54
Solitary maybe apps? 16:42:04
Solitary hardly 16:42:07
cybojenix Solitary, they could use premium apps (rom manager) 16:42:11
rymate1234 Solitary, >sales of the cyanogenmod phone 16:42:15
Solitary I am not sure they will see any money from the phones 16:42:31
Solitary as said, the system is for free 16:42:38
Dazzozo yeah 16:43:17
Dazzozo i dont think they're going to sell apps 16:43:22
Solitary maybe tapping into enterprise, but as Daz said, its about who the users are 16:43:34
Solitary and I am not sure that CM users are enterprise and corporate employees 16:43:47
Solitary but with some advertisment that could change... 16:44:13
Dazzozo "It’s about building great services" 16:44:47
Dazzozo i dont see them competing with google though 16:45:04
rymate1234 well no they're not 16:45:29
rymate1234 they're competing for 3rd place with M$ and crapberry 16:45:41
Dazzozo talk about missing the point rymate1234 16:45:55
Dazzozo if you're making "great services" 16:45:59
Dazzozo you're competing with google apps 16:46:04
Dazzozo because what is there that there isnt already a google app for 16:46:23
Solitary unification? 16:48:09
adfad666 woop woop picked up a Xperia SP today 16:48:24
Dazzozo lol 16:48:30
Solitary apps may be there... but not array of apps integrated into the phone 16:48:57
Dazzozo this easy installer will be interesting 16:51:36
Dazzozo i dont really know how you can do something like that without it being a mess 16:51:48
Dazzozo if device == mako 16:52:05
Dazzozo if device == grouper 16:52:15
rymate1234 Dazzozo, it's probably going to be a mess 16:52:18
rymate1234 if (getDevice() == "blade2") { printNotification("fuck off and get a decent phone"); } 16:53:28
Dazzozo from the looks of it 16:54:27
Dazzozo its a PC program 16:54:32
Dazzozo so its probably going to manipulate adb and fastboot 16:54:42
Dazzozo something automatically using those binaries can easily screw up 16:54:57
Solitary rymate1234, dont be a noob... they will use switch a big one 16:55:10
Solitary 16:55:11
rymate1234 lol 16:55:16
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Dazzozo Uživatel Dazzozo změnil téma na: #huawei-g300 | G300 innovation station | home of the G300's CyanogenMod® port and children | News: http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ON-7v4qnHP8. 16:56:03
cybojenix ciwl says it is both 16:56:35
Dazzozo both what? 16:56:43
cybojenix pc and android app 16:57:13
Dazzozo interesting 16:57:50
Dazzozo i have no idea how the android app is going to work 16:58:15
Dazzozo on some devices you can just write to partitions in userspace 16:58:32
Dazzozo but thats "some" 16:58:34
tilal6991|away Uživatel „tilal6991|away“ je nyní znám jako tilal6991. 17:01:59
tilal6991 Dazzozo: What happened? 17:02:53
tilal6991 There's a ton of stuff 17:02:58
tilal6991 And I lost my scrollback suddenly 17:03:05
Dazzozo <notciwrl> More on that next week 17:03:15
Dazzozo interedasting 17:03:17
Dazzozo re: paid or ad-supported apps 17:03:26
Dazzozo tilal6991: cyngn.com 17:03:41
Dazzozo happened 17:03:43
tilal6991 Wat 17:04:55
tilal6991 What are they doing? 17:05:01
tilal6991 Google 17:05:06
tilal6991 CM installer 17:05:10
tilal6991 OMG 17:05:11
Dazzozo >omg 17:05:31
Dazzozo tilal6991 its really not surprising 17:05:38
tilal6991 Yeah I know 17:05:44
Dazzozo we predicted everything other than "CM Installer" months ago 17:05:53
Dazzozo <Lloir> inb4 NSA 17:06:48
Dazzozo ^ 17:06:51
tilal6991 You know what 17:06:55
Dazzozo its gonna happen 17:06:57
Dazzozo its fucking 17:06:58
Dazzozo going to happen 17:07:00
tilal6991 I wouldn't mind working for CM 17:07:03
cybojenix I dont get what he means.. 17:07:09
Dazzozo well 17:07:19
Dazzozo people who use CM 17:07:22
tilal6991 I reckon that it'd be a good stepping stone for bigger things 17:07:23
Dazzozo are very "interesting" people 17:07:26
Dazzozo where everyone else buys a Galaxy S4, leaves it on the stock rom and is done with it 17:08:11
cybojenix well yeah 17:08:22
Dazzozo the more interesting people are the ones they want more data on 17:08:37
Dazzozo i gotta agree, CM could be NSA'd 17:08:52
Solitary hardly 17:09:16
cybojenix it's a conspiricy theory, but meh 17:09:16
Dazzozo it is tinfoil hat yes 17:09:27
cybojenix it's open source. I might stop using it if they start using vendor stuff 17:09:46
Solitary if anything, NSA is interested to monitor bigger user bases, so stock roms are the place... any differences are too big obstacle to care for 17:09:59
cybojenix proprietary stuff 17:10:03
Dazzozo not really 17:10:13
Dazzozo people who avoid google's services 17:10:22
Dazzozo tend to use stuff like CM 17:10:31
cybojenix however. they've already got your info as soon as you turn a computer on 17:10:35
Dazzozo as if they have somethng to hide 17:10:37
Dazzozo its dumb logic 17:11:12
Solitary but for NSA its harder to get into custom stuff rather then look over shoulder of big corporation 17:11:15
Solitary because they can grab them by the balls 17:11:21
Dazzozo of course 17:11:21
Dazzozo but now CM has incorporated 17:11:30
Dazzozo look at lavabit 17:12:06
cybojenix once again it's down to open source and not using proprietart stuff 17:12:29
Dazzozo yep 17:12:38
Dazzozo but 17:12:40
Dazzozo the services 17:12:42
Dazzozo will always be closed 17:12:46
Dazzozo CMAccount's backend is closed source 17:12:50
Dazzozo GetCM is now closed source 17:12:54
cybojenix yeah.. 17:12:59
tilal6991 But TBH the apps arent 17:13:10
Dazzozo doesnt matter 17:13:14
cybojenix you don't have to use them 17:13:25
tilal6991 How exactly are you going to get data off the user if the app the user is running doesn't send the data? 17:13:30
Dazzozo thats not the point tilal6991 17:13:49
Dazzozo you dont know what theyre doing with the data it already sends 17:13:55
tilal6991 Well what data does it send? 17:14:04
tilal6991 http://www.theverge.com/2013/9/18/4742828/cyanogen-raises-7-million-to-build-the-best-version-of-android 17:14:08
Solitary CM isn't really that much of a problem... NSA already has gsm, gps, google and big portion of web... you would have to use your CM phone as paper weight not be in their reach 17:14:17
tilal6991 This article's comments are very interesting 17:14:19
Dazzozo tilal6991 that was linked over half hour ago 17:14:22
tilal6991 Yes 17:14:27
tilal6991 But I still think it's interesting 17:14:34
tilal6991 Lol 17:14:35
Dazzozo as we all did... half hour ago 17:14:40
tilal6991 The thing is GApps is a big deal 17:14:42
tilal6991 If Google forces CM into a corner about stopping then I'd be annoyed lol 17:15:04
Dazzozo yeah i totally agree 17:15:08
Dazzozo but you have to see the similarities 17:15:14
Dazzozo between CM now 17:15:16
Dazzozo and lavabit then 17:15:18
Dazzozo and, well, http://lavabit.com/ 17:15:22
tilal6991 We will say 17:15:34
tilal6991 * see 17:15:37
Solitary 'murica, boy! 17:15:37
Dazzozo lol 17:15:46
tilal6991 If the situation changes then we'd have the change how we see it 17:15:53
tilal6991 In the current state I think CM is doing well 17:16:00
Dazzozo i dont know what google can do about CM 17:16:04
Dazzozo until CM is competing with Google I don't think they'll care 17:16:16
tilal6991 They're wrong to say they want "third place" though 17:16:16
tilal6991 Unless they were to rewrite android 17:16:28
Dazzozo nah 17:16:28
Dazzozo its a realistic goal 17:16:34
Dazzozo if you're going to go in to this dumb shit like its a podium 17:16:52
Dazzozo CM has nothing to do with gapps 17:17:23
tilal6991 Well the thing is 17:17:24
Dazzozo so i dont know what they can do 17:17:29
tilal6991 If we split android up 17:17:30
tilal6991 Then iOS would have the biggest market share I think 17:17:43
tilal6991 Like into touchwiz, sense, CM etc. 17:17:53
Dazzozo its gonna be close 17:18:02
Dazzozo but i still think touchwiz 17:18:06
tilal6991 Exactly 17:18:07
Dazzozo would be #1 17:18:12
tilal6991 Hmmm maybe 17:18:14
Dazzozo or at the very least 17:18:22
Dazzozo going to get there soon 17:18:27
Dazzozo i mean they essentially said theyre competing with android 17:19:26
Dazzozo but android isnt where the profit is 17:19:32
tilal6991 https://scontent-a-lhr.xx.fbcdn.net/hphotos-ash3/532155_10201383600384778_902314753_n.jpg 17:19:33
Dazzozo so google wont care 17:19:37
tilal6991 Lol 17:19:38
Dazzozo rekt 17:19:42
tilal6991 Imperial FTW 17:19:48
Dazzozo pity you can only use it for 10 seconds per day 17:19:52
Dazzozo gg limits 17:19:58
tilal6991 Hahaha 17:20:04
Solitary any competition will go on Android's head... because Apple has own users, they usually are not people to care about anything else... CM, Ubuntu Phone, FirefoxOS, SailfishOS, all will cut from Android's pie, not anybody's else 17:20:19
Dazzozo yep 17:20:35
tilal6991 Dazzozo: If you're plugged in via Ethernet, it doesn't count towards your daily limit, that's only for wifi. During the steam Christmas sale last year, I downloaded c. 50GB of games in about an hour and a half. So that's about 10MB/s of actual delivery speed. 17:20:47
tilal6991 HELL YES 17:20:59
Dazzozo lol 17:21:01
Dazzozo wtf. 17:21:02
Dazzozo cant you just 17:21:05
Dazzozo bring your own router 17:21:08
Dazzozo lmao 17:21:09
tilal6991 No 17:21:12
tilal6991 They're banned 17:21:14
tilal6991 17:21:16
Dazzozo wtf 17:21:19
tilal6991 Yeah ikr 17:21:25
Solitary tilal6991, ah, 1Gbit ... but shitty upload it was nice when I had one of those too, just with better upload 17:21:27
tilal6991 That's bad upload speeds? 17:21:45
tilal6991 Solitary: ^ 17:21:48
tilal6991 Mine currently 17:21:53
Dazzozo compared to your down 17:21:58
Solitary its just 50Mbit 17:22:11
tilal6991 Solitary: Screw you 17:22:29
Solitary 17:22:31
Dazzozo tilal6991 mad 17:22:34
Dazzozo mad as a hell 17:22:38
tilal6991 Solitary: http://www.speedtest.net/result/2975333539.png 17:22:55
tilal6991 That's mine ATM 17:23:00
Dazzozo oh god 17:23:03
Dazzozo pls 17:23:04
Dazzozo no 17:23:05
Solitary uf 17:23:05
Dazzozo im in the middle of nowhere and i have better speeds 17:23:12
tilal6991 Exactly 17:23:12
Dazzozo im gonna run a speedtest on my server 17:23:16
tilal6991 That's 2.78 Mbit/s BTW 17:23:37
tilal6991 Not MB 17:23:41
Solitary I have 120/10 currently... for about 30€ 17:23:42
tilal6991 I need to bug my parents to get fibre lol 17:24:01
Solitary I dont live in dorms anymore, so bye bye 100Mbit or 1Gbit 17:24:01
Solitary well... atleast the down is still good, but the upload kinda sucks 17:24:22
Solitary tilal6991, what limits were you talking about? You have 1Gbit but with limits? WTF? 17:25:05
tilal6991 Solitary: No limits on ethernet apprently 17:25:19
tilal6991 But there is on Wifi 17:25:25
tilal6991 10GB per day 17:25:31
Solitary huh 17:25:35
tilal6991 Dazzozo: Huh - http://review.cyanogenmod.org/#/c/50595/2/d2-common.mk 17:26:04
Dazzozo yeah 17:26:05
Dazzozo it really makes no sense 17:26:07
Dazzozo why do you have wifi limits 17:26:10
tilal6991 Yup 17:26:10
Dazzozo whats the point 17:26:13
tilal6991 I may just reverse tether 17:26:17
tilal6991 Dazzozo: http://m.stv.tv/news/north/239978-thousands-of-scottish-secondary-pupils-vote-no-in-mock-referendum/ 17:27:25
tilal6991 Yay 17:27:26
tilal6991 The children around aberdeen have some semblence of sense 17:27:37
Dazzozo heres my server 17:27:47
Dazzozo http://www.speedtest.net/result/2975344457.png 17:27:48
Dazzozo 100mbit line 17:27:53
tilal6991 Pretty good 17:27:57
Solitary http://www.speedtest.net/result/2975349080.png 17:29:31
Solitary my home line 17:29:35
Dazzozo noice 17:29:50
Solitary they boosted me a little, that's nice 17:29:51
Solitary probably for a while 17:29:57
Solitary it should be 240/20 now, but down doesn't seem to be full up... maybe router 17:30:59
Dazzozo lol 17:35:46
Dazzozo about getcm open source 17:35:48
Dazzozo <ciwrl> the backend for the server probably not, though the javascript is 17:35:49
Dazzozo <ciwrl> We are being selfish in that we want people to use these things to run CM 17:35:50
Dazzozo well 17:35:55
Dazzozo if you want people to use these things to run CM 17:36:00
Dazzozo you better lower your requirements for going official 17:36:09
Dazzozo otherwise people will continue doing what they do 17:36:22
Dazzozo "Google lost control of Android" 17:43:24
rymate1234 lol 17:43:34
Dazzozo http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=alOD36LdoY4 17:43:44
tilal6991 Dazzozo: Think my next project is a facebook replacement app 17:45:41
Dazzozo whyyyy 17:45:48
Dazzozo do the 9000th twitter app 17:45:55
tilal6991 Because the facebook app sucks 17:45:59
tilal6991 I don't need to do a twitter app 17:46:12
tilal6991 Falcon pro is the epitomy of what you want in a twitter app 17:46:28
Dazzozo >epitomy 17:47:15
tilal6991 Pretty much 17:47:21
Dazzozo epitome tilal6991 17:47:23
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tilal6991 Yes my spelling offically sucks 17:48:00
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djuroue whazzup 18:02:38
Dazzozo http://www.reddit.com/r/IAmA/comments/1mnnc6/we_are_steve_cyanogen_kondik_and_koushik_koush/ 18:03:39
tilal6991 Cool 18:07:03
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jordilopez94 http://www.cyanogenmod.org/blog/a_new_chapter 18:10:55
rymate1234 wow 18:11:21
rymate1234 that's like 18:11:23
rymate1234 an hour old 18:11:27
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Dazzozo dw, jordilopez94 is a master of late news 18:14:43
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tilal6991 Uživatel „tilal6991“ je nyní znám jako tilal6991|away. 18:25:19
tilal6991|away Uživatel „tilal6991|away“ je nyní znám jako tilal6991. 18:25:44
tilal6991 Dazzozo: http://www.anandtech.com/show/7335/the-iphone-5s-review/3 18:25:45
tilal6991 RIP ARMv7 18:25:50
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rymate1234 welcome to EOL, armv7 18:26:13
Dazzozo >giving a fuck 18:26:23
tilal6991 Yup 18:26:24
Dazzozo buy nexus, sell nexus before new nexus 18:26:29
Dazzozo buy new nexus 18:26:32
Dazzozo repeat 18:26:32
tilal6991 18:26:33
cybojenix "btw... the Exynos code in the kernel is much better than qcom's code" 18:26:46
tilal6991 Who said that? 18:27:26
cybojenix kernel dev 18:27:36
rymate1234 watch iOS become temporarily fragmented as millions of people update http://www.akamai.com/html/technology/dataviz1.html 18:27:52
cybojenix lol 18:28:00
tilal6991 TBH I'd agree from what little I've seen of Exonys code 18:28:00
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cybojenix I haven't seen it, but I heard the older exynos devices had messy code 18:29:45
tilal6991 Dazzozo: QCOM needs to up it's game 18:32:21
tilal6991 And fast 18:32:24
Dazzozo why 18:32:46
Dazzozo qcom's hardware is incredible 18:32:56
tilal6991 Apple's A7 is very good 18:32:57
tilal6991 Beating QCOM in most things 18:33:04
Dazzozo no one gives a fuck about apple 18:33:04
tilal6991 Yes 18:33:07
Dazzozo theyre not competing 18:33:07
tilal6991 But how about intel? 18:33:11
Dazzozo intel are dead in the water already 18:33:16
tilal6991 No 18:33:19
Dazzozo qcom has the market 18:33:22
tilal6991 I disagree completely 18:33:23
Dazzozo they dont need to do shit lol 18:33:27
tilal6991 I think the performance/battery life offered by bay trail should have qcom worried 18:33:45
Dazzozo try a S800 device 18:33:59
Dazzozo and tell me that 18:34:02
tilal6991 Yes 18:34:10
tilal6991 See annandtech 18:34:14
tilal6991 Srsly 18:34:17
tilal6991 They need to up it 18:34:21
Dazzozo nah 18:34:24
tilal6991 At the very least they shouldn't be complacent 18:34:38
Dazzozo qcom has no competition right now 18:34:44
tilal6991 IN ARM chips excluding apple yes 18:34:58
tilal6991 I'd agree 18:35:03
Dazzozo yes? 18:35:13
Dazzozo as opposed to... 18:35:14
tilal6991 Intel 18:35:19
tilal6991 I honestly think if intel plays their cards right then it could be huge 18:35:37
Dazzozo no 18:35:38
Dazzozo x86 is unsupported by all native apps 18:35:44
Dazzozo theyre in no devices 18:35:54
tilal6991 And this is coming from me who ridiculed at the x86 things a while back 18:35:56
Dazzozo and because theyre in no devices 18:35:58
Dazzozo x86 is continuing to be unsupported 18:36:03
tilal6991 We will see 18:36:04
tilal6991 Because they have no devices obvc 18:36:12
Dazzozo you can have better perf 18:36:13
Dazzozo you can have better battery life 18:36:18
tilal6991 They suck until now 18:36:18
Dazzozo but if you dont have a position in the market 18:36:25
Dazzozo no ones scared 18:36:28
Dazzozo ubuntu edge tilal6991 18:36:30
Dazzozo ubuntu edge 18:36:31
tilal6991 Ubuntu Edge was flawed from the start 18:36:41
Dazzozo no it wasnt 18:36:44
tilal6991 It really was 18:36:48
Dazzozo it was ambitious 18:36:50
tilal6991 No one wanted another OS running in the market 18:36:59
Dazzozo intel entering the market late and trying to control any of it is ambitious 18:37:00
tilal6991 No one needs it TBH 18:37:02
Dazzozo but it ran Android you retard 18:37:06
tilal6991 Yes 18:37:10
Dazzozo no one was gonna run Ubuntu on it 18:37:13
tilal6991 But you do realise they're moving AWAY from android in the core 18:37:21
Dazzozo "in the core" 18:37:26
Dazzozo holy christ tilal6991 18:37:27
tilal6991 Not towards 18:37:28
tilal6991 Well the core is all that matters 18:37:33
Dazzozo say something that makes sense pls 18:37:34
tilal6991 That's what they use ATM 18:37:39
Dazzozo wtf IS THE CORE 18:37:39
tilal6991 Only the core 18:37:41
Dazzozo omg 18:37:44
Dazzozo dude, it fucking dual booted ubuntu phone and android 18:37:54
tilal6991 Core = zygote, surfaceflinger etc 18:37:56
Dazzozo it could dual boot DOS 18:38:00
Dazzozo and android 18:38:02
Dazzozo I would only use android 18:38:05
Dazzozo because its the only thing worth using 18:38:09
Dazzozo who CARES what ubuntu phone is like 18:38:12
Dazzozo or based on 18:38:13
Dazzozo android works like android 18:38:18
tilal6991 We'll see 18:38:34
tilal6991 I honestly think though Intel should be someone to watch 18:38:46
Dazzozo if you're interested in hardware, yes 18:39:01
Dazzozo but for market control? 18:39:05
Dazzozo no. 18:39:06
Dazzozo qcom has nothing to fear 18:39:09
Dazzozo you cant take ARM's dominance overnight 18:39:16
Dazzozo you cant even begin to cut in to it 18:39:21
Dazzozo TI quit 18:39:38
tilal6991 Yes 18:39:48
tilal6991 But TI is not intel 18:39:51
Dazzozo who cares 18:39:55
Dazzozo intel is x86 18:39:56
Dazzozo x86 is nobody 18:39:57
Dazzozo in mobile 18:39:59
tilal6991 But they will be 18:40:12
Dazzozo no 18:40:14
Dazzozo thats a completely baseless statement lol 18:40:27
tilal6991 GPU wise though QCOM are the leaders 18:40:28
Dazzozo good hardware wont just get you there 18:40:32
tilal6991 No doubt 18:40:32
tilal6991 I know 18:40:35
tilal6991 But intel also can market 18:40:40
Dazzozo you need the ecosystem to support you 18:40:42
Dazzozo i wish them good luck 18:40:49
Dazzozo but it is not as easy as you're making out 18:40:53
tilal6991 I never said it was easy 18:41:00
tilal6991 I think it will slowly but surely happen though 18:41:10
Dazzozo you're telling me qcom should be scared 18:41:12
tilal6991 My opinion 18:41:15
Dazzozo and you're saying it isnt easy?! 18:41:17
tilal6991 No I'm not 18:41:18
tilal6991 I'm not saying scared 18:41:22
tilal6991 I'm saying they shouldn't be complacent and they should deffo up their game 18:41:34
Dazzozo you said "worried" 18:41:41
Dazzozo same shit. 18:41:41
tilal6991 Yes 18:41:47
tilal6991 Worried but not scared yet 18:41:53
Dazzozo nothing to be worried about 18:42:01
Dazzozo do they even have 1%? 18:47:50
Dazzozo of the android market? 18:47:58
tilal6991 No 18:48:32
tilal6991 Because do they have a good SoC released yet? 18:48:42
tilal6991 No 18:48:43
Dazzozo well there we go. 18:48:54
Dazzozo its gonna take qcom far less time to get ahead of intel 18:49:09
Dazzozo than it is for intel to become competitive 18:49:15
tilal6991 Well will they have a good SoC soon 18:49:18
tilal6991 ? 18:49:18
tilal6991 Yes 18:49:19
Dazzozo maybe. 18:49:24
tilal6991 Yes 18:49:28
tilal6991 Bay trail is amazing 18:49:31
Dazzozo but thats not even a half of the battle 18:49:32
tilal6991 In CPU at least 18:49:42
tilal6991 In GPU as I say QCOM is blowing everyone out of the water 18:49:56
tilal6991 Shame for AMD who sold Imageon to them 18:50:20
Dazzozo what happened to AMD is hilarious 18:50:29
Dazzozo they sold their only valuable asset while it was R&D 18:50:36
tilal6991 Lol 18:50:38
tilal6991 Yup 18:50:40
Dazzozo There are no plans to close the source for things such as device support and work done in the community. We do need to build value for the company, and there are various things we are working on that require significant time and capital to develop- these may be proprietary but we won't pervert/close the core OS for this to happen. 18:53:26
Dazzozo i dont like the sound of this 18:53:49
rymate1234 rip cm 18:54:03
tilal6991 :/ 18:55:02
tilal6991 Dazzozo: It almost sounds like you could tag a "yet" onto the end of that statement 18:55:49
rymate1234 "Shortly after releasing the first version, I pulled it together and started putting my changes on Github for others to use. I’ve always been a big advocate of open source, so this was the logical next step." 18:56:01
tilal6991 Logical step? 18:56:11
tilal6991 Lol wat? 18:56:13
rymate1234 from http://www.cyanogenmod.org/blog/a_new_chapter 18:56:20
Dazzozo http://www.reddit.com/r/IAmA/comments/1mnnc6/we_are_steve_cyanogen_kondik_and_koushik_koush/ccawnck 18:58:24
tilal6991 Oh right 18:58:25
tilal6991 LOL 18:58:40
rymate1234 "Monetization isn't an immediate concern and our investors and Benchmark and Redpoint feel the same. CyanogenMod has the potential to become an enormous platform play, and to do that, we need to foster and grow the ecosystem. Right now, we just want to build something compelling and grow the user base. Eventually, there are innumerable paths to monetization once we reach economics of scale: licensing our software/services to OEMs, building hardw 18:59:45
rymate1234 are, creating secure enterprise solutions, etc." 18:59:45
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tilal6991 Dazzozo: TBH their trying to follow Google's path 19:01:30
tilal6991 i.e. core is open source 19:01:38
Dazzozo yep 19:01:39
Dazzozo theyre doing a google 19:01:41
tilal6991 And the GApps is closed 19:01:44
Dazzozo and not a mozilla 19:01:45
Dazzozo which is sad 19:01:47
tilal6991 Lol 19:01:50
tilal6991 But the thing is this is the only wya they could be successfu; 19:02:08
Dazzozo well how do you judge a non-profits success? 19:02:32
rymate1234 market share 19:02:58
tilal6991 ^ 19:03:19
Dazzozo then i guess they're already pretty successful lol 19:03:33
tilal6991 Lol 19:03:45
rymate1234 even my mum runs cyanogenmod 19:04:26
rymate1234 she doesn't know it 19:04:30
rymate1234 but she does 19:04:31
tilal6991 Same with my mujm 19:04:36
tilal6991 10.2 on U8150 19:04:41
tilal6991 Lol 19:04:44
rymate1234 my mum runs cm7 on a wildfire 19:05:00
rymate1234 overclocked in order to make preformance not shit 19:05:27
tilal6991 Lol 19:05:32
rymate1234 she loves it as she can check emails without loading up her frightfully slow netbook 19:05:53
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tilal6991 Lol 19:06:53
rymate1234 so here's what I'll be doing saturdat 19:07:20
rymate1234 *saturday 19:07:24
rymate1234 2. putting money in bank so I can use iTunes again 19:07:34
rymate1234 1. learning to count 19:07:42
rymate1234 3. updating all the apps 19:07:48
tilal6991 LOL 19:08:40
rymate1234 yeah I made a typo 19:08:50
tilal6991 Time to start on the Facebook app 19:09:26
tilal6991 19:09:27
rymate1234 facebook app? 19:09:35
tilal6991 I'm writing a replacement Facebook app 19:09:58
rymate1234 why 19:10:05
tilal6991 BTW just pushed a new HoloIRC beta 19:10:07
tilal6991 rymate1234: Because the offical app suck 19:10:13
tilal6991 * sucks 19:10:15
tilal6991 Bad 19:10:18
rymate1234 but facebook sucks as well 19:10:26
tilal6991 That's the reason to write any app 19:10:27
tilal6991 rymate1234: But I use it 19:10:32
rymate1234 ah 19:10:38
tilal6991 If something I use sucks on Android 19:10:41
tilal6991 Then I just write an app to replace it 19:10:47
tilal6991 That's why I wrote HoloIRC 19:10:52
rymate1234 what's it gonna be called? 19:11:00
tilal6991 Because the IRC clients on Android sucked 19:11:01
rymate1234 "HoloFB"? 19:11:07
tilal6991 Holobook is the working title 19:11:08
rymate1234 ah 19:11:44
tilal6991 I also need to recompile CM 19:13:08
rymate1234 why 19:13:28
tilal6991 Dazzozo: I was wrong about AOKP 19:13:28
tilal6991 It sux just as much as usual 19:13:40
tilal6991 rymate1234: Because I can 19:13:58
rymate1234 oh lol 19:14:08
rymate1234 tilal6991, quickly! 19:14:33
tilal6991 Wat? 19:14:37
rymate1234 fork cm before they go all closed source! 19:14:42
tilal6991 I already have lol 19:14:51
tilal6991 That's what androidarmv6 is 19:14:57
tilal6991 A fork in case CM goes rouge 19:15:05
rymate1234 ah 19:15:23
rymate1234 clever 19:15:25
tilal6991 Indeed 19:15:33
rymate1234 a fork of cm disguised as a shitty port for a shitty chipset 19:15:46
tilal6991 Exactly 19:15:58
tilal6991 No one will think of it lol 19:16:04
rymate1234 without any of the good cm features 19:16:11
tilal6991 It has all the CM features lol 19:16:18
tilal6991 We've forked frameworks/base and packages/apps/Settings 19:16:30
rymate1234 last time I checked, it lacked 19:16:34
tilal6991 Nope 19:16:38
rymate1234 - DSPManager 19:16:39
tilal6991 It doesn't compile it 19:16:48
rymate1234 - Apollo music player 19:16:54
tilal6991 But they can be done so 19:16:55
tilal6991 Because they waste space lol 19:17:02
rymate1234 - the fucking email app 19:17:05
tilal6991 We're barely getting in the system as it is 19:17:12
tilal6991 Not every phone can be reTPTed 19:17:27
rymate1234 my phone isn't TPTd 19:17:40
tilal6991 Exactly 19:17:44
tilal6991 And not everyone has a 220MB system 19:17:54
tilal6991 Especially the LG devices 19:18:06
rymate1234 19:18:46
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tilal6991 Dazzozo: http://www.mysn.eu/xmg-a102 19:20:57
tilal6991 OMG 19:20:58
tilal6991 Why have I never heard of this company? 19:21:06
rymate1234 http://www.reddit.com/r/IAmA/comments/1mnnc6/we_are_steve_cyanogen_kondik_and_koushik_koush/ccaw0rz lmao 19:22:54
cybojenix who wants an 11" gaming laptop? though I guess if you plug it into a screen.. 19:23:01
tilal6991 cybojenix: Gaming laptop doesn't really need to be used for gaming 19:23:41
cybojenix ah.. it was me that actually promised the toaster build.. 19:24:03
tilal6991 rymate1234: PAHAHHAHAHAHAHHAHAH 19:24:10
tilal6991 rymate1234: Screw writing a Facebook replacement 19:52:30
rymate1234 tilal6991, why 19:52:39
tilal6991 They just make it way to complicated 19:52:42
tilal6991 You have to add another SDK to do it lol 19:53:10
rymate1234 wat 19:54:05
tilal6991 Yeah the Facebook SDK 19:54:25
tilal6991 Actually it doesn't seem that bad 19:55:10
tilal6991 It's misnames 19:55:13
tilal6991 It's just another library 19:55:17
rymate1234 yeah 19:55:32
rymate1234 that's typically what an SDK is 19:55:38
rymate1234 a software library 19:55:41
tilal6991 No 19:55:46
tilal6991 An SDK is used to build an app against 19:55:53
tilal6991 A library is a dependency which you app utilizes 19:56:06
Dazzozo no 20:20:52
Dazzozo an SDK is a software development kit... 20:20:58
rymate1234 ^ 20:21:52
rymate1234 it is something you used to develop software with 20:22:03
Dazzozo yes 20:22:31
Dazzozo it can INCLUDE a library 20:22:38
tilal6991 Dazzozo: Yes but not if the SDK IS a library 20:23:53
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tilal6991 rymate1234: Holobook is a not 20:24:00
Kra1o5 yo 20:24:03
tilal6991 * no 20:24:03
rymate1234 tilal6991, why? 20:24:10
tilal6991 Facebook says it's not an acceptable name 20:24:12
rymate1234 probably as it has book in it 20:24:48
tilal6991 Yeah 20:24:54
tilal6991 Need a new name lol 20:25:04
rymate1234 HoloFB? 20:25:10
tilal6991 Nope 20:25:36
rymate1234 uh 20:25:53
rymate1234 "my awesome facebook app" 20:25:59
rymate1234 surely you can change the name later 20:26:12
tilal6991 Lol 20:26:39
rymate1234 http://www.dorkly.com/comic/54084/culture-of-violence 20:27:24
tilal6991 Huh 20:27:27
tilal6991 I need to publish my app id keys when I opensource it 20:27:49
tilal6991 Not gonna happen 20:27:53
tilal6991 I need to work around that 20:27:58
rymate1234 .gitignore 20:28:22
rymate1234 just shove the keys in some file you can add to the .gitignore 20:28:48
tilal6991 Yeah I'll do that 20:28:50
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rymate1234 Dazzozo, you know that phonebloks indiegogo I linked? 21:06:55
rymate1234 it was a fake 21:06:58
rymate1234 lel 21:07:00
Dazzozo how? 21:07:48
Dazzozo how was it "fake" 21:07:58
Dazzozo it was a fake scam? 21:08:00
rymate1234 the original guy says there's fakes going around http://www.phonebloks.com/ 21:08:11
rymate1234 although yeah hard to fake it when there's nothing to fake 21:08:28
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tcpaulh /me waves 21:52:10
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tilal6991 tcpaulh: hey 21:53:39
tilal6991 rymate1234: ye? 21:53:52
rymate1234 hi 21:54:01
tcpaulh Hey tilal6991 21:54:06
tcpaulh So, Asda are selling that azera instant coffee for £2 instead of £5. Just had 13 tins of it delivered /jitter 21:57:55
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rymate1234 I wish android had a program like iTunes 21:59:31
tcpaulh Might try injecting it 21:59:36
rymate1234 if it's one thing I like about iOS it's that I can backup everything to my PC by pressing one button 21:59:53
tcpaulh Or the cloud. Handy 22:00:24
rymate1234 yeah iCloud is good too 22:01:06
rymate1234 when I got my iPad I was amazed 22:01:15
rymate1234 as I could restore from an iCloud backup of an iPod touch I'd lost over a year ago 22:01:42
rymate1234 and everything was there 22:01:49
tilal6991 I'm glad Android doen't have iTunes 22:02:31
rymate1234 I would like something similar as an option 22:02:48
rymate1234 not like iOS where it's compulsory 22:02:58
tilal6991 OK 22:03:10
rymate1234 maybe I should make it lmao 22:03:38
tcpaulh I'm gonna buy shares in this stuff http://www.which.co.uk/news/2013/07/which-best-buy-wholebean-instant-coffees-325518/ /spam 22:04:38
tcpaulh One more spam https://picasaweb.google.com/m/viewer?fgl=true&pli=1#photo/106998500250326134524/5923534124152302785/5923553070154035410 just back from Austria. 22:11:58
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